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Oh come on, they havent FAILED to perform, they just havent performed as well as we had expected them too, its hard to rotate 3 strikers into 1 open position in our formation, also they have been hit by injuries, you cannot expect to perform well if you are not going to start every game and have an up and down match fitness and practice.

Drogba is that kind of strker, hes done pretty well its only because his season was struck with injuries.

With the 4-3-3 the qualities the striker should have are..
Lethal Finishing
Pace
Ability to head
Bravery
An influence
Agression
Strenth
Balance
Acceleration
Composure
Good sense of position
And agility

All of these Drogba seems to have and he is our first choice, interesting to see what would happen if Crespo came in, becasue he has the same qualiities. As for Gudjohnsen, he ended the season playing a sort of midfield role, similar to what Raul has been doing for Real lately, after Figo was removed from the first team.

And yes the formation may not suit the strikers, but it suits the rest of the team, and it has worked. We did win the premiership with it, and we do have 2 world classs wingers in Duff and Robben, so the formation is good to let them perform to their best abillity, i wouldnt say the strikers have failed however.

You may be right, it may be harder for the strikers in the 4-3-3 unless they are very capable in the abilities i have listed above, but I would still call it a moderate to good season for them, other than Kezman who i thought was very very very unlucky, but the stats say otherwise.
 
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All those qualities you mentioned should be in every striker really.
And I wouldnt say the 3 strikers were rotated all the time. Eidur played on the right of the three forwards for a few games when Drogba was fit.
The only guy who was really missing out on all the action was Kezman.

And I dont think you understand what I mean by playing badly. For example Ruud played badly this season because he just plain sucked at times. When I say Drogba played badly, I mean if you look at statistics, he hasnt scored any goals. But Drogba's work rate and everything has been good. There were even times when he would be defending in the important games doing the last minute tackles and blocks.
 
Yeahh your right, well the abilities are more important for the centre striker only i think, if your playing a 4-3-3 with 3 strikers in the box and not 2 wingers and 1 in the box you wouldnt really need strength balance and the ability to head, youd need vision and passing abilities plus lots and lots of pace Anyway yeah, but then Gudjohnsen only started playing out of that striker role late in the season when Robbo got injured. Anyway i hope Crespo does come back, because currently we only have 2 senior strikers :p.
 
Did anyone ever see the interview of Crespo on Milan channel? He said before the Milan move he was thinking of retirement due to depression and poor performance!!!
 
29, but 28 at the time. Even though I hate him, I really feel he would be happy at Milan. He even bought a permanent home here with his family right now. Just yesterday to Sky Sports UK he said he wanted to stay.
 
He even accepted a pay cut so he must be desperate.
Kinda feel sorry for him.

Why do you hate him? He even scored in the CL Final. Surely he's important.
 
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29, but 28 at the time. Even though I hate him, I really feel he would be happy at Milan. He even bought a permanent home here with his family right now. Just yesterday to Sky Sports UK he said he wanted to stay.
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Hes 30 in 2 days. Anyway yeah I feel sorry for the guy too but he is under contract.
 
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Chelsea should just release him. Its not like its gonna be a major loss. Roman can afford it.
 
Hahah 16.8 may not be a huge loss, but if worst comes to worst and we are having problems signing a striker, we just have to hold on to him.
 
I understand that but if you do sign someone, then you should release him.
I mean, Chelsea still pay his wages so they'll probably save cash in the long term if they release him.
 
Yeah defnitely, or we could persuade Milan to actually make a bid. Im guessing it will not be a big one.
 
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I read an interesting article written by Terry Venables which was about Chelsea and their strikers.
He pointed out that NONE of them are to blame for the lack of goals. The real problem is the formation that is used. The 4-3-3 and the style of play that Mourinho uses makes it VERY hard for a lone striker to play well. And it makes it easy for that striker to get out-numbered and out-muscled. Venables believes that even someone like Adriano would fail to shine at Stamford Bridge unless the formation or tactics are changed.
I kind of agree with him. How else can you explain top strikers failing to perform at Chelsea.
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Rune that's absolutley correct.
It's mourinho style of play. At Porto it was the same. Mourinho style of play gives alot of chances to the midifielders to score.
Kinda like this: Drogba drags one of the defenders to the sides leavind space on the middle for Lampard to go to the box and score.
It's just and example I just made up, although it happened.
Goals are split alot between the team. Terry scored quite a few for example.

Mourinho focuses almost completely on tactics and teamplay. I'm surprised you people haven't noticed that.

Acctually Lpool won the CL playing in a similar way.

But on the other hand, I must add that the same happened with mourinho at Porto in his first year. Our striker at the time, Postiga, only scored 11 goals, but we won the championship and the UEFA cup. On the 2nd season our striker, McCarthy, scored 22 goals, and we won the championship and the CL.

One must take into consideration also the fact that drogba hasn't completely adapted. At marseille, the team played more for drogba, At chelsea drogba plays more for the team.

But with Adriano(or Trezeguet) on the team, mourinho will change to a 442.
 
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Yeah, thats what I mean Revan.
But if Adriano played in a 4-3-3, I dont think he'd be any good.
 
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Yeah, thats what I mean Revan.
But if Adriano played in a 4-3-3, I dont think he'd be any good.
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Exactly, but it seems to be whats best for the team, as Revan said.
 
Of course its best for the team. Look at how effective it was.
But I just think if thats the case, why bother with a striker?
Is it worth spending so much money on Adriano for example?
 
You'r right, but I believe that chelsea wants him (or any of the other) also for the marketing. Adriano would sell alot at chelsea.
I said b4, IMO chelsea does not need a world class striker, a player like Pizarro, for example, would do a great job there.

Speculation: chelsea made a bid of 58M€ for Trezeguet. He's worth 30-40M€, but I doubt juve would sell him at that price.
 
I think Adriano would suit Chelsea style he did excellent in the Confeds cup holding up play! and he basically played at the top on his own for them!
 
Im liking all this Gerrard stuff, anticipating he will be wearing our no.7 shirt within the next 2 weeks. :p
 
Fantasy formation :p

-------------Cech-----------------
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-------Carvalho-----Terry---------
-Ferreira------------------Bridge-
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------------Makelele--------------
---Gerrard-----Lampard-----Duff---
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------Drogba------Trezeguet-------

I can't even fit Robben here. :S
 
If you think about it, Gerrard isnt even needed at Chelsea. A world class striker that is big, strong and can hold up the ball should be the highest priority. Its funny how Drogba fits that description except that he's not reallyt world class.

And doesnt ANYONE where no7 at Chelsea?!?!?
 
I mean that Chelsea are already an almost unstoppable team and to make them completely unstoppable, you need someone other than Gerrard.
Maybe a striker, another Joe Cole type player and maybe a experienced world class centre back. Gerrard would obviously be a good signing but Chelsea buying looks more like they're just buying him for the sake of buying him and the fact that he's a good player, not because they need him. Its almost like showing off their money and buying him just so other teams cant have him.
I mean, why would you want him if you have Makalele and Lampard?

And lets be honest. Its not gonna make their midfield a great difference. There were doubts that he might join them after Euro 2004 and I have to admit, I was a bit worried that it might happen. But after seeing Lampard and Gerrard play together for England, they werent as impressive as people expected them to be. Individually they are obviously great but together they dont really do much for you. Both of them are too similar and that place in the squad is better used by someone with different characteristics. Its also my personal opinion why England arent as good as they look on paper.
 
We want Gerrard because our midfield always consists of Makelele Lampard and some idiot.

Also, yeah Mourinho has stated his 3 signings, a left back (Del Horno), a midfieleder, and a striker, as you said.

And yes there is no number 7 at Chelsea, it was Adrian Mutu however he was sacked.
 
Yeahh, but then i think he wants to cling to his number 11. Remember how the rumours of how upset he was when he heard Robben was going to take it when he arrived, along with his first team place?
 
I remember that. But I still think he;'s a bit of a worry that Chelsea are sometimes still linked with right wingers like Joaquin cuz then I'm sure Robben would be first choice on the left.
 
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