Arsenal Thread

marukomo said:
Just a note Nicky. A team without millions doesn't spend all that money that you spent on Reyes, etc. You're not a poor club.
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But we don't spend that amount of money nearly every season like the other big clubs do. Think about that.

@Metallica, You're a Man Utd supporter and you're concerned with an Arsenal player. Funny.
 
Just on that whole 4 'local' players thing - wasn't that announced to be a requirement for the UEFA comps soon? Or was it just an idea? Something like at least 4 local players in the first team and 2 in the squad, with those numbers increasing over time? Can't remember if the head of UEFA got it passed though.

I'm with whoever on here was saying as long as you play your heart out for your club it doesn't matter where you're from.
 
Ok so if every 'english premiership club' had all foriegners in their sqauds and no team in the premiership had any english players in it, would you be satisfied with that? is it right that a socalled english league has no english players in it?
 
Clockender said:
Why is it a joke? We are an English club. Where is the rule that says you have to have English players in your side? Our recent experience of English players has hardly been good has it? I couldn't give a flying fuck who pulls on the red'n'white as long as they are committed to the cause and give 100% and are world class ;). Theirry Henry isn't English but he might as well be the amount of time he has been with us. He knows what it means to pull on the shirt of Arsenal so thats all that counts.
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How many times are we gonna have to hear this. This issue isnt about what "counts" or what the rules are. Chelsea havent broken any rules when Roman spends all that money yet people still complain. Why? Because its unethical and breaks unwritten rules that we all have but dont bother mentioning cuz we expect everyone to obey them. Its the same issue with not playing any English or British players in your side. This is also like when players like Deco who was originally from Brazil, now plays for Portugal. Just cuz its in the rules, it doesnt make it morally right. If this was about whats allowed and what isnt allowed, we wouldnt be sitting here debating this.
And dont give me the BS about not having enough money cuz of you look at the English or British players at Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool, excluding the BIG signings of SWP and Rooney, how much have those teams actually spent on their players?

#CHELSEA#
Joe Cole: £6million
Terry: Homegrown
Lampard: £11million
SWP: £30million
Bridge: £7million
Glen Johnsen: £6million
On average, thats about £10million per player.

#LIVERPOOL#
Gerrard: Homegrown
Carragher: Homegrown
Crouch: £7million
Fowler: Free Transfer
Carson: £1million
Warnock: Homegrown
Bellamy: £6.5million
Finnan: £3.5million
Thats £18million for their British players. And £2.25million on average per player.

#MAN UTD#
Gary Neville: Homegrown
Rio Ferdinand: £30million
Brown: Homegrown
Rooney: £25million
Smith: £7million
Scholes: Homegrown
Richardson: Homegrown
Giggs: Homegrown
Fletcher: Homegrown
O'Shea: Homegrown
Bardsley: Homegrown
Thats £62million in total and £5.6million on average per player.

Sure some of these teams spend big money on individual players but the amount of money they save on homegrown talent makes up for it as the average figure shows cuz this clearly means they're better off if you look at the long term effect it will have on the team's finances. So I guess its partly a problem with Arsenal not spending wisely which then questions whether or not Wenger's judgement is as great as you gooners think it is.
If Arsenal had the youth system that dedicated its time to English players then maybe you'd also have save some money on transfers that could then be used on big signings in the future.
Its too late now cuz your team's expectations are too big and this doesnt give you the time to start from scratch and base this team around young British blood. So bascially, you dug your own grave.
 
Wenger not spending wisely eh? Have you been drinking Rune?

Wenger's spending record in the transfer market is unquestionably good. We have a net spend less than Utd, Chelsea, Spurs, Newcastle etc and yet we are still up there challenging.

Toure - £500,00
Senderos = £500,000
Eboue = £1m
Ljungberg = £3m
Vieira = £3m - Sold for £13m
Fabregas = £500,000
Anelka = £500,000 - Sold for £23m!!
Henry = £10m
Overmars = £7m - Sold for £25m

These are just a few examples. Need I go on? The guy is a genius in the transfer market.

I would love to see more English players in the first team but they are so over-priced, I mean £6m for Glen Johnson? We have promoted many English players from youth team but none of them have made the grade. Pennant, Bentley, Taylor, Hughes etc but they weren't up to the high standard required to play for Arsenal.

I really don't care what nationalities the players are who play for Arsenal are as long as we are successful. Arsenal's priorities are Arsenal not England.
 
Totally missed the point, didnt you?
I thought this discussion was about British players. And you didnt even name one. :roll:
Didnt you even notice what all the players I listed have in common?
 
I named 4, maybe you should re-read my post! :roll:

All the players you listed do not collectively have anything in common - O'Shea and Finnan are Irish. They are about as British as Kolo Toure.

I didn't miss the point, I was explaining that I don't care where the players come from who play for Arsenal, maybe you missed the point.
 
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:applause: Well said CE. It doesn't matter where the players come from. And if we had the spending power of Chelsea, Yanited and Liverpool we'd invest in them. But I'd much rather we go abroad for players who have hunger and are just as good if not better than their British equivilants.
 
Clockender said:
I named 4, maybe you should re-read my post! :roll:
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I meant in that list of transfers. Damn, you're slow.

And FYI, You DID miss the point. I just explained how easy it is to have British players in your team like how other teams around you seem to have. So Wenger has no excuses for not having any many British players in his side.

Even after all the millions that Abramovich spent, Mourinho said he never wants to sell Lampard or Terry cuz a) he wants a English core in this team and b) he (rightfully) feels that when coaching in England, its one of his duties to develop English players to support the national team.
Two very important points that Wenger doesnt understand and I'm sure most of this country (excluding gooners) agree that its a shame.
 
RuneEdge said:
I meant in that list of transfers. Damn, you're slow.

And FYI, You DID miss the point. I just explained how easy it is to have British players in your team like how other teams around you seem to have. So Wenger has no excuses for not having any many British players in his side.

Even after all the millions that Abramovich spent, Mourinho said he never wants to sell Lampard or Terry cuz a) he wants a English core in this team and b) he (rightfully) feels that when coaching in England, its one of his duties to develop English players to support the national team.
Two very important points that Wenger doesnt understand and I'm sure most of this country (excluding gooners) agree that its a shame.
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Keep up mate you missed the point. We don't care what the rest of the country think about us! Comprendre?
 
Arsenal are not known for their ethics or class. Any english player they have given a chance has either been a plain thug or got a reputation.
 
Alucard said:
Arsenal are not known for their ethics or class. Any english player they have given a chance has either been a plain thug or got a reputation.
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reputations are hard to change when your a critic
 
What a pointless argument these manc fans are making, you should be happy you have some of the best players in the world to watch, imagine how sh*t the English Premier League would be if it was all English players, I can imagine the moaning out of you all then. Rune Edge you are quick with your mouth, what exactly is your point, look at all the great players that has graced your own club before you go making stupid arguments about how many foreigners are on a rival teams club, it makes no sense, I suppose you could have done without George Best, Norman Whiteside, Gordon Strachan, Denis Law, Lou Macari, Fabien Barthez, Peter Schmeichel, Denis Irwin, Roy Keane, Dwight Yorke, Mark Hughes, Ryan Giggs, Billy Meredith, Andrei Kanchelskis, Paul McGrath, Jaap Stam, Veron and the King himself Eric Cantona in your sides through the years. Look at Arsenal teams of only a few years ago and look at the amount of good solid English players that have gone through, David Seaman, Lee Dixon, Martin Keown, Tony Adams, Nigel Winterburn, Paul Merson, David Platt, Ray Parlour, Kevin campbell, Ian Wright just to name a few, many of them were England Internationals and some automatic first choice. Where were the pats on the back then? I'm sure you looked at those Arsenal teams with pride because of the fine british talent they churned out. Your just being a big fuc*ing spanner right now with this crap, I can't really take your argument seriously and believe me i have tried.
 
Alucard said:
Any english player they have given a chance has either been a plain thug or got a reputation.
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Well thats the kind that they attract with their lack of class. Wenger sure has a good eye for youngsters. :roll:

beboquintero said:
that means:do you understand :lol: Clockender classic
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Whats so funny about "Comprendre"? I think YOUR post was the classic example of your intelligence. Let me guess, you just googled up the word and realised what it meant? I mean, why else would you find it funny.
 
Dermot said:
What a pointless argument these manc fans are making, you should be happy you have some of the best players in the world to watch, imagine how sh*t the English Premier League would be if it was all English players, I can imagine the moaning out of you all then. Rune Edge you are quick with your mouth, what exactly is your point, look at all the great players that has graced your own club before you go making stupid arguments about how many foreigners are on a rival teams club, it makes no sense, I suppose you could have done without George Best, Norman Whiteside, Gordon Strachan, Denis Law, Lou Macari, Fabien Barthez, Peter Schmeichel, Denis Irwin, Roy Keane, Dwight Yorke, Mark Hughes, Ryan Giggs, Billy Meredith, Andrei Kanchelskis, Paul McGrath, Jaap Stam, Veron and the King himself Eric Cantona in your sides through the years. Look at Arsenal teams of only a few years ago and look at the amount of good solid English players that have gone through, David Seaman, Lee Dixon, Martin Keown, Tony Adams, Nigel Winterburn, Paul Merson, David Platt, Ray Parlour, Kevin campbell, Ian Wright just to name a few, many of them were England Internationals and some automatic first choice. Where were the pats on the back then? I'm sure you looked at those Arsenal teams with pride because of the fine british talent they churned out. Your just being a big fuc*ing spanner right now with this crap, I can't really take your argument seriously and believe me i have tried.
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Thats the PAST. We're talking about TODAY's Arsenal. Could some of you please keep up cuz its getting extremely difficult now.
 
RuneEdge said:
Well thats the kind that they attract with their lack of class. Wenger sure has a good eye for youngsters. :roll:


Whats so funny about "Comprendre"? I think YOUR post was the classic example of your intelligence. Let me guess, you just googled up the word and realised what it meant? I mean, why else would you find it funny.
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no! cause I`m hispanic and I would of thought CE use a French word before a spanish word"comprender"
 
Why would we want more English players? We could have the English national side and we still wouldn't win the league. And why do you care? Just because you have 7 or 8 English players in your club makes yours so much greater? What an a-hole.
 
RuneEdge said:
Thats the PAST. We're talking about TODAY's Arsenal. Could some of you please keep up cuz its getting extremely difficult now.
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The thread says Arsenal not today`s Arsenal.fairplay
 
Dermot said:
Look at Arsenal teams of only a few years ago and look at the amount of good solid English players that have gone through, David Seaman, Lee Dixon, Martin Keown, Tony Adams, Nigel Winterburn, Paul Merson, David Platt, Ray Parlour, Kevin campbell, Ian Wright just to name a few, many of them were England Internationals and some automatic first choice. Where were the pats on the back then? I'm sure you looked at those Arsenal teams with pride because of the fine british talent they churned out. Your just being a big fuc*ing spanner right now with this crap, I can't really take your argument seriously and believe me i have tried.
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Fine british talent?! :lol: More like fine british alcoholic thugs. Adams and Merson are prime examples. Then you have keown who is a known thug. Jeffers another little dirty shit. Anway most of those players were already there before wenger came in and brought in his foreign/french only policy.
 
Dermot said:
Why would we want more English players? We could have the English national side and we still wouldn't win the league. And why do you care? Just because you have 7 or 8 English players in your club makes yours so much greater? What an a-hole.
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If you had the english national side im sure you wouldnt have finished trophyless.
 
they could be great with a good coach and tactics. but after the first 11-15 players there's not much else.

If you want to challenge for the big prizes, you need good players and there simply aren't that many English players that are good enough. It's an entertainment business and the fans want to see the best players.

Lets end this stupid debate with an analogie.

A new multiplex cinema opens but they show 90% English films. Only one or two foreigners (US, etc) films are allowed to be shown. Would you go regularly?
 
marukomu said:
A new multiplex cinema opens but they show 90% English films. Only one or two foreigners (US, etc) films are allowed to be shown. Would you go regularly?
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Fair enough no, let this be ended. It is rather strange/odd/weird (choose a word) for a top English club to have only lets say 2 (Cash and Walcott) top English players but thats the way it is, and lets leave it at that shall we
 
Alucard said:
Fine british talent?! :lol: More like fine british alcoholic thugs. Adams and Merson are prime examples. Then you have keown who is a known thug. Jeffers another little dirty shit. Anway most of those players were already there before wenger came in and brought in his foreign/french only policy.
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:shock:

I hardly think a Utd fan can really say that about Arsenal, not with the thugs have played for you in the past!

Cantona - The only player ever to kung-fu kick a fan at a match :lol:
Keane - One of the dirtiest players in the history of the Premier League. His attack on Haaland was disgraceful
Ince - Dirty fucker
Neville - The little weasel. Can dish it out but goes running to Keano when he gets picked on.
Phil Neville - See Gary Neville
Ferguson - The gum chewing alcoholic who physically assaults his own (Beckham)

:lmao:
 
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I'd say only cantona and keane you can say are thugs, but I was talking more of the english players that arsenal have cultivated.

Arsenal look like they are not going to get any new defenders this summer.

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=405917&CPID=8&clid=3&lid=2&title=Wenger's+defender+hopes+dented
 
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