Arsenal Thread

BobbyBox said:
What is this about?
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Yeah strange stuff I`m feeling really nutter atm. Ivan is brought so Wenger can concentrate more on squad and leave the dealing with Ivan. I`m guessing Wenger doesn`t fancy him so I said I hate Ivan.

tc811 said:
Does anyone else think that these Juan Mata news title puns are getting really lame?
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We all said that about Gervinho too! Who knows he could play on the wing or the middle if fab or Nasri leaves.
 
Mata it's not a good option for the middle. He's great at the wing and one of his great threats is the diagonal runs to space and driving the ball inside. I think he would loose a lot of his qualities if he had to play in a more open space with more responsabilities.
 
Rentboy said:
I think Rubin Kazan is the worst mostly because of the trip. That would mean an away match in Russia and then another away match at Old Trafford in the matter of 4 days...

I think Twente would be the least troublesome, including the logistic side of things.
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Kazan's 2000 miles from London, almost like flying London to Boston. If you look at London to Moscow, it's another 25% on top of that in terms of distance.

The Twente match might be moved to Arnhem, as they had to do this for the Vaslui game this week due to the roof collapse. It's about 50 miles between these two towns in Holland.
 
Pray that you don't have to play Twente, because that is a very good team capable of eliminating Arsenal. I hope those teams don't play each other, because i like both teams.
 
cfdh_edmundo said:
Kazan's 2000 miles from London, almost like flying London to Boston. If you look at London to Moscow, it's another 25% on top of that in terms of distance.

The Twente match might be moved to Arnhem, as they had to do this for the Vaslui game this week due to the roof collapse. It's about 50 miles between these two towns in Holland.
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That's the idea, anywhere in Holland is closer than anywhere in Russia :D

As for who to play or not to play, there's no use in worrying about that. Arsenal can beat any of them (which is most likely) or cock things up against any. If the worst happens in the end, it would be a punishment for letting City get the 3rd spot.

Today apparently things are finally moving in the transfer front. An improved bid was made for Jagielka, Mata is close to signing and we are close to ship Bendtner to Sporting Lisbon and Eboue to Galatasaray, I think...

On injuries, it seems Sky Sports just announced Diaby had ankle surgery and is ruled out for 10 weeks.
Like it has been said before, if Diaby was a horse, he would have been put out of his misery by now.
 
Rentboy said:
That's the idea, anywhere in Holland is closer than anywhere in Russia :D

As for who to play or not to play, there's no use in worrying about that. Arsenal can beat any of them (which is most likely) or cock things up against any. If the worst happens in the end, it would be a punishment for letting City get the 3rd spot.

Today apparently things are finally moving in the transfer front. An improved bid was made for Jagielka, Mata is close to signing and we are close to ship Bendtner to Sporting Lisbon and Eboue to Galatasaray, I think...

On injuries, it seems Sky Sports just announced Diaby had ankle surgery and is ruled out for 10 weeks.
Like it has been said before, if Diaby was a horse, he would have been put out of his misery by now.
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Sporting said it was fictional

He said: "I have no justification for such news. Bendtner is a player who is as close to Sporting as Higuain or Drogba are.

"Those are players who are at the same distance from Sporting. The reports of a move for Bendtner are a fictitious production."
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ooh Jagielka and Mata, I would be happy with those :DD just need a defensive midfielder (that we are not going to get) and I would be the happiest chappy! (Maybe a goalkeeper, but I would like to see Sczez have a season)
 
“The only clubs who buy at the moment in Europe are ones who buy with money which is not generated by our industry. There are two categories of club – those who travel with sweat and those who travel with petrol. We are those who travel with sweat.”
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I'm still of the opinion that Arsenal need two or three more experienced heads in the squad. LB is an open position right now so I expect it to be filled with a reliable player soon. The only other buy I could see Arsenal making is a backup to Song.
 
BobbyBox said:
ooh Jagielka and Mata, I would be happy with those :DD just need a defensive midfielder (that we are not going to get) and I would be the happiest chappy! (Maybe a goalkeeper, but I would like to see Sczez have a season)
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That would be sweet. Jagielka would be a true reinforcement. Mata could come in as a replacement for Nasri - as soon as Mata is confirmed, we could wrap Nasri up with a price tag of £20M shipped to Manchester.

That would leave us with the Cesc situation. I think Barcelona are about to miss the deadline they've been given (although they think they can play this game until August 31st), so hopefully Cesc can play one final season for us... and seeing him lifting a trophy before leaving wouldn't hurt :)

I'm fine with Szcez, but Song's backup is something Wenger should address, as it isn't too difficult. We don't need anyone brilliant for that, do we? All we need is a hardman who has no qualms with being a sub for a big club like Arsenal. We should be able to get someone in that mould for about £1M? Just harvest the Championship or overseas.
 
Rentboy said:
That would be sweet. Jagielka would be a true reinforcement. Mata could come in as a replacement for Nasri - as soon as Mata is confirmed, we could wrap Nasri up with a price tag of £20M shipped to Manchester.

That would leave us with the Cesc situation. I think Barcelona are about to miss the deadline they've been given (although they think they can play this game until August 31st), so hopefully Cesc can play one final season for us... and seeing him lifting a trophy before leaving wouldn't hurt :)

I'm fine with Szcez, but Song's backup is something Wenger should address, as it isn't too difficult. We don't need anyone brilliant for that, do we? All we need is a hardman who has no qualms with being a sub for a big club like Arsenal. We should be able to get someone in that mould for about £1M? Just harvest the Championship or overseas.
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I can't see Barcelona paying the 40million now, with their new youngster playing so well they just don't need him at the moment. So yeah I think it would mean Nasri going if we got Mata. But it is all very weird with Cescs 'hamstring' problem.

So you never know if he is being left out because it might be more likely him going if we get Mata? but as Drekkard said he isn't played that much in the centre (although there is no saying he couldn't change?).

I'm glad Arsenal have put a limit on negotiations, there is no way this can go on to the end of the transfer deadline, no way at all.

On the defensive midfielder, I think it will be hard to find a quality back up for 1million, but yeah I don't think they have to cost much, but they will be played quite a bit with the African cup of nations at the beginning of next year.

It's all over the place, lets hope alot of it gets sorted out soon!
 
http://aculturedleftfoot.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/one-of-us-speaks-the-parable-of-robin-van-persie/

One Of Us Speaks: The Parable of Robin van Persie
Posted by Yogi's Warrior

After falling foul of a strict corrective regime under Bert van Marwijk at Feyenoord, Robin van Persie slowly found his feet with us in a supportive environment where great care was taken to ensure that he was happy and comfortable on and off the pitch. As soon as he was treated like a grown up, he started acting like one. On the cusp of a season in which he’ll likely play a more central role than ever, his story offers a welcome antidote to the idea that we’re too soft with our young, budding talents.

This is from November 2004:

The way Arsenal take care of young players is incredible; they look after your family, they make sure your house or flat is in the right area. They have special people who are looking after us all the time. At London Colney ’s training ground you get trained to live the life of a top sportsman
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Eight years ago, van Persie was the enfant terrible of Dutch football. He left his boyhood club Excelsior Rotterdam at 16 after falling out with the coaching staff. Then after breaking into the first team at local rivals Feyenoord in 2001, he spent much of the following three seasons in trouble with authoritarian manager Bert van Marwijk. Much of the drama sprung from being forced to play on the left wing and adhere to the manager’s rigid tactics.

A trawl through the Feyenoord news archives from this time is like reading the school reports of a nascent supervillain. When he wasn’t lighting up De Kuip with moments of breathtaking skill, he was prone to bouts of on-pitch indiscipline. These included baiting the manager in his goal celebrations, refusing to warm up properly during a crucial Champions League qualifier with Fenerbahce, openly trashing the team system, and consequently kicking his heels on the bench or moping around for the youth team.

He was also a divisive figure outside the club. One of the most dramatic incidents came when he turned out for the reserves at Ajax’s training ground, De Toekomst on 15th April 2004 – a dark day for Dutch football. At the final whistle of a customarily heated encounter between the old rivals, scores of Ajax hooligans stormed the pitch, and you can guess who they singled out for special treatment.

As the mob closed in, teammate Jorge Acuña jumped to Van Persie’s aid and spent the next few days in hospital recovering from bruised ribs and concussion. Robin took a couple of blows, swung back, and was eventually shielded from the melee by Marco van Basten, his future Oranje coach. After the incident he thanked Acuña for intervening, the Chilean midfielder shrugged it off with, “You’d have done the same for me”.

Prior to that, Feyenoord had been trying to find a new home for their precocious but troubled talent, who now had just over a year left to run on his contract. Mysteriously there weren’t many foreign takers for this young tearaway. Steve Rowley had been watching him on and off since his breakthrough in 2001, was convinced that he could be set straight and advised Arsenal to bid. A £5 million offer was rejected. That appeared to be the end of it, and PSV emerged as new favourites.

Even more strangely, after the brawl at De Toekomst, even domestic interest ebbed away. Feyenoord’s asking price was slashed and a new £2.75 million bid from Arsenal was accepted in May 2004.

It’s interesting to read that certain physical aspects of a player at a young age, e.g. running stance, are identified as an indication of how they will develop in their playing career. Could the same apply to mental development? Were the aggression and cockiness of van Persie then, a precursor to the focus and self-belief of today? Was this what Rowley had in mind when he ignored the cloud hanging over Van Persie’s young career?

van Marwijk followed RvP out the door that summer. Despite winning the UEFA Cup with the club in 2002, his lack of success in nurturing Van Persie – regarded by many as a superior talent to the emergent Wesley Sneijder and Arjen Robben – was seen as one of his major failures.

When it came to filling that precast bad boy role, RvP was a bit of a disappointment in his early Arsenal years. There was a silly red card against Southampton, a harsh sending off in the Champions League against FC Thun, and not much else, despite plenty of provocation most memorably from Chris Morgan and Andy Todd.

On the technical side, RvP’s career has come full-circle. In Feyenoord’s youth teams he started out as a shadow-striker with freedom to roam, which is very similar to the role he now plays, after spending a number of years on the right for Arsenal and the Netherlands. The video below is from 2000:

YouTube - Robin van Persie - The Early Years

The technique is familiar – that unbending posture and implausible sense of balance. The big difference is free-kicks; his efforts eleven years ago were a little less violent and a little more lofted. Even when you look back at many of his classic efforts for Arsenal, like at Fulham or at home to Wigan in the Carling Cup, he strikes the ball with a degree of power but didn’t bludgeon them the way he does today. What’s also interesting is that his prowess from dead-ball situations is inversely related to his development as a goal-scorer. Could there be a certain quality that he’s cultivated as an efficient finisher that might hinder his direct free-kick taking?

It’s a minor quibble, as RvP as shown that he’s more than just a goal machine, with 26 of his 25 PL career assists coming in the last three seasons. This campaign should see yet more creative and goal-scoring responsibility as he drops deep to pick out runs by two of the fastest wide forwards around, and finishes moves with characteristic speed of thought and immaculate technique.

And there you have it – a blog about Robin van Persie that didn’t once mention injuries. What? Oh damn.
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Yeah, I didn't want to post just the link, in case you guys weren't gonna read it...
 
Yeah good article.

I remember van Persie at Feyenoord. Was a real bad boy and troubled child. Then Arsenal and Arsene took a gamble on him and it paid off. They made him into an adult. A usually mature and focused adult/player.
 
I was watching Red Bulls against PSG and in the scoreboard there was "NYR-PSG" so when I saw NYR I was like "Go Rangers! ... oh wait! These are the New York Red Bulls not the New York Rangers!" :LOL: Anyway, I will support them (I'm bit more of Cosmos fan) but I'm a New Yorker all the way! :BOP:

Emirates Cup is my fav Summer tournament after the Amsterdam one (don't know if it still exists).

EDIT: Rooney's bro in NY?! wtf
 
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cfdh_edmundo said:
It's all the hairstyles in the world in one go, bald, braids, dreadlocks...
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No, he's still missing this one:
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Sooo cute! :D
 
The black Nottingham Forest player with the pineapple hair is still the best ever IMO. That was so ridiculous...poor guy.
 
Doesnt look like our game has changed!!!The same shit as last seasons second half!
Now we cant even win our own Emirates Cup!!
This make me worry about this season!!!it will be very very difficoult!
 
Emirates Cup: not even that! :LOL:

No need to overreact, its just a friendly match and it seems that you have improved your offense. Those goals you conceded after being in front are a concern though.
 
these are preseason friendlies against good opposition where lots of subs are made and people aren't playing to the max. So I like to take the positives out of the weekend instead of concentrating on the negatives so much. the positives being that Gervinho, Van Persie and Ramsey are looking very good.

The defensive side is a bit worrying, but I think it will get alot better by the time the season starts. Especially because we will have two defenders at that point which will be our defensive pairing (depending on what happens with Jagielka etc). The defence like all other positions has been changed so much over the weekend, that it is hard to make a proper judgement imo.
 
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