Arsenal Thread

Couldn't agree more with YoungGun and most of the people on the thread. I expected (at least this year) that Wneger would have learnt from previous mistakes and would buy big. If the problem is that he doesn't get enough transfer funds, then make it public and resign your job if you really want to win.

The situation as it is, it seems Wenger is too comfortable with transfers funds being denied and having no pressure at all to win, because after all... they didn't give me the funds!
 
BobbyBox said:
.......Liverpool and Spurs have both shown how easy it is dropping out of that top 4 and out of the champs league.

Arsenal have spent much less than both of these clubs and consistantly get into the top 4 and later stages of the champs league. We usually are in contention for alot of competitions but then fall away dramatically.

Arsene gambled on youth that not only himself thought could be world beaters, they didn't fulfil their potential and we are in the situation we are in now.

...Wenger has made a few bad judgement calls that we can slam him for after hindsight, but he has to realise now that mistakes were made and a new approach must be sought, if he doesn't then he will be out.

I still don't think the 6 years without a trophy were a complete disaster and merit all of the critisism being thrown at us. But I do think we could have reacted to situations better and sooner.

If the next few months are managed well, then we will be fine, but there is a thin line between failure and success.
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well said Bobby. :)) wenger has definitely made some bad calls in the last few years (but then again Conrad said "It's only those who do nothing that make no mistakes"), but like u say, there's a thin line between success and failure, and arsene has not crossed that line yet, as arsenal is still, by all means, a top club (although i realise some "overly dramatic" arsenal fans tend to believe otherwise).
Drekkard said:
The situation as it is, it seems Wenger is too comfortable with transfers funds being denied and having no pressure at all to win, because after all... they didn't give me the funds
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i don't know mate. to be fair arsene seems to be dealing with an enourmous ammount of pressure.... i'd say more than any other premiership coach today. and we can't really tell how confortable he feels about this situation, as we don't know what happens "behind the curtains". ;)

the fact that he never bictched about his transfer funds speaks for his integrity and his respect for the club, if anything...... most coaches would easily drop their responsabilities and blame it on the lack of funds.... or even move to a richer club (it's not like arsene didn't have great offers from top clubs in the last few years afterall).... i like this aspect of wenger.

arsene had to take lots of shit (even from arsenal fans themselves) in the last few years... sure he's stubborn as hell... but at least he never hides himself behind silly excuses.

and although arsenal certainly aren't as "big" as they were some years ago (when they had plenty of great players).... and although arsene certainly has some responsability in this "exodus", arsenal still remains among the 10 best clubs in the world... and that is by all means "top club" region.
 
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lo zio said:
i don't know mate. to be fair arsene seems to be dealing with an enourmous ammount of pressure.... i'd say more than any other premiership coach today. and we can't really tell how confortable he feels about this situation, as we don't know what happens "behind the curtains". ;)

the fact that he never bictched about his transfer funds speaks for his integrity and his respect for the club, if anything...... most coaches would easily drop their responsabilities and blame it on the lack of funds.... or even move to a richer club (it's not like arsene didn't have great offers from top clubs in the last few years afterall).... i like this aspect of wenger.

arsene had to take lots of shit (even from arsenal fans themselves) in the last few years... sure he's stubborn as hell... but at least he never hides himself behind silly excuses.

and although arsenal certainly aren't as "big" as they were some years ago (when they had plenty of great players).... and although arsene certainly has some responsability in this "exodus", arsenal still remains among the 10 best clubs in the world... and that is by all means "top club" region.
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Well, that really made me think twice about my post. But at the end, I keep having the feeling that in the last seasons Wenger attittude is making the club smaller, in the sense that you don't feel any urge to win from him. I don't live the day-to-day of the club, of course, but from the distance what I preceive is some sense of being comfortable in the top 4, while in my mind, Arsenal should be more competitive.

Maybe that's the key word. I think Arsenal is getting less competitive each year in the last 3-4 seasons. Why? Of course: the lack of transfer funds but also the signings made and some of the decisions taken by the way.

It may be the only Top 10 club whose key players want to go away! Surely something is happening there and Wenger shares some responsability.
 
The Guardian's website linked Arsenal with Abdel Taarabt, Thiago Motta and Leighton Baines.
Baines would certainly be a very good player for Arsenal...

About Wenger: i agree with Bobby. Wenger never had enough money to buy the players Arsenal deserves. And on top of that i don't understand that people act surprised. After moving to the Emirates it became clear that Wenger had to work on a shoestring budget. The fact that he never complained is an illustration of his fair-play and loyalty to Arsenal.

Sacking this man would be insane and unjust. The attractive football Arsenal played under Wenger became their unique selling point. With another manager Arsenal would loose much appeal and only the die hard fans would continue to support them. Sadly (for the die hard fans) clubs get litle money from die hard fans...
 
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Im not one of the ones that thinks they need to spend 150M on a Summer spree. I just think Wenger made some (with hindsight) bad decisions like letting a lot of players go who shouldn't have.

Ljungberg, Pires, Gilberto and Toure should have stayed a little while longer. Wenger doesn't need bags of cash since his actual signings have been brilliant but allowing Flamini (and now Nasri) to be in positions with only 1 year on their contract is madness. The sales of Adebayor, Hleb and Cole being setbacks which should have been replaced with the money that came in.
 
Arseblog said:
Arsenal thought they’d agreed a fee of €10m with Lille but then Lille said they wanted €11m and the two clubs are still working on a compromise deal.

Arsenal: Ten million, one hundred and fifteen thousand, six hundred and fifty five euro and eighty-six cent.

Lille: Ten million, eight hundred and seventy-two thousand, one hundred and ninety euro and five cent.

Arsenal: Ten million, one hundred and fifteen thousand, six hundred and fifty six euro and eighty-six cent.

A deal is expected to be done in early January.
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Apart from the understandable bitterness of our Irish chap toward the lack of activity, I wouldn't be surprised if negotiations went along these lines.

Arsenal is losing players at an increasing pace and not replacing them with the urgency needed.

We just got 7M for a player who was pretty much the weakest link in our starting eleven, and he was in his final year. There you have it, it's already a great deal! We can surely loosen the strings a a little bit at the other end, spending a bit more, can't we?

If City came with 19M for Nasri, I'd say sell him. Sell him now! 4M profit on a wantaway player who, let's face it, is after the money. The salary he's refusing at the moment is 90,000 pounds a week and to me that's just crazy. Sell the mercenary.

But then again, there's no point in selling and not buying top quality as replacement. That's the thing I do in my PES Master League, I sell my playmaker for crazy money and promote a youngster to his place. But not with a real club, cmon Arsene...
 
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Madness really for Lille. Now, Bolton telling us we have 10 days for Cahil. I heard Wenger say a few days back that we won`t see any new players until the end of July after the Asia Tour. I`m sure he is still upset by going to Asia stubborn as a mule.

I`m gutted not to get Alvarez ,but I`m sure he waited for Inter to come out.
 
Wenger didn't like the idea of going on this Asia tour, but it does bring some good money. It may get in the way of off season preparations but it doesn't stop a club from buying players. The other clubs do it every summer and still land the necessary signings, why can't Arsenal?

Coyle giving a deadline for the Cahil move, he wants stability for pre-season, I can understand that, but it's not how it works. I think something might still happen later in July. But I'm not too optimistic, as Chelsea apparently want him too.
 
Looks like Gervinho is having a medical.

Arsene is obviously going for players, but like the Alvarez deal if bigger clubs go in for the same players, then we don't stand much of a chance do we.

Cahill Chelsea are now interested, they have had more success recently but he will have to make the decision where he will want to go.

It sounds like we are going for the players, but whether we get them depends on who else wants them. Again it is not just as easy as Wenger wanting somebody and then them signing.

Wenger keeps his cards to his chest, so we will never know really 100% who he is after etc until he actually buys them. So I do think it is premature to start slating him for not signing anybody yet.
 
Being an Arsenaloholic
Don McMahon

Being an Arsenaloholic

Season after season, week after week, month after month, Cup after Cup, run-in after run-in I stay glued to the TV or computer alternately surmounted by euphoria or equally often pummeled into an abyss of despair. Where does this Gooner addiction come from and what are its consequences?

Take right now for example…I can’t decide whether Clichy sauntering over to our Northern reserve club for a mere 7M sterling , is a good thing or a bad thing. Is it possible that its both? I mean everything about the Arsenal lately is ambiguous, debatable, uncertain, fluid, like quicksand. With this dichotomy comes a certain instability and loss of focus….I am losing touch with the Arsenal reality and like a bi-polar individual, feeling moments of etheral bliss and the next moment plumbing depths even the most ardent Gloomy-doomy Gooners fail to reach.

Let me give you a perfect example; watching the Arsenal overcome a clearly superior Barcelona team at the Emirates last season was the equivalent of a perfect hit for a meth addict or better still, like a night out with Pamela Anderson with no holds barred(if you’re reading this and are a female Gooner-choose your dream date or gender) but watching the Barcodes, with the able assistance of the referee, come back in a game they should have been out of after 45 minutes, was the equivalent of swallowing a gallon of petrol , shoving a lit match up your nose and sneezing (please do NOT try this at home)!

I have come to the forlorn conclusion that I am an Arsenaloholic, the definition of which is as follows. A deluded and often shambolic individual, of either gender and undefined age (but must be over 6months ), with minimal ambition (other than AFC winning silverware), no fixed address (since I troll from pub to my mates’ sofas and am rarely home), little to recommend him or her other than a new Gunners kit every year and a pathetic, ceaseless hope that the light at the end of the tunnel (the one leading to the Emirates) isn’t another runaway train!

I can’t get enough of the Club, the history, the potential glory, the moments of sheer delirium like our humbling of Real and AC Milan and the aforementioned finger we gave Barca, the killing ground that most blogs have become, the elegance of everything Arsenal, the media scum dissing our Club everywhere and anywhere they can, the three-ring circus that is the Barca-Cesc saga every year, the groans coming from La Cantera (Barca) as we sweep another under 17 talent from their doorstep, the divine one-touch Football, the Spuds Derbies, the MOTD morons, and so on.

This dependence on my Arsenal fix, currently being met by pseudo-intelligent rumours and spurious speculations of summer madness, like Methadone supposedly alleviates a coke addict’s need, is maintaining my mental equilibrium just marginally. THANK God that in an other week I’ll get to see the boys in Red & White amble onto the steppes and rice paddies of Asia to confront their hosts best 11. Frankly I’d be satisfied if they toured Cheltenham wearing busker costumes and kicking a recently decapitated Spuds skull around against a pickup team of retired Aussie cricketers….cricketers, what a dreadful thought!

My spouse, who long ago abandoned any hope of a cure for my affliction, has (perhaps sarcastically?) suggested that I find a real hobby like gardening, swimming and/or lawn-bowling. I did once try all of these but the lifeguard wouldn’t let me take my trowel and bowls into the pool.

Such is life, but on a brighter note, my shrink tells me that her husband is a Spuds fan and that, with significant medication, regular shock treatments and the employment of elephant sized suppositories, she has been able to, on occasion, actually recognize his speech as English and increase his IQ to match his age (45)! There but for the grace of Wenger and Gazidis, go I!

Thankfully and mercifully I have joined a self-help group sponsored by the EPL and the Septic Blatter Foundation for severely disturbed Football fans where we watch videos of Platini and Jack Warner performing unspeakable acts on wax figures of our current FA Board-members, all the while screaming out phrases like Fairplay and Corruption…what Corruption? This therapy, commonly known as bizarre rehabilitation and turgid supplication (BRATS) seems to be having some effect. My wife tells me, in my few moments of lucidity, that I now no longer wake up screaming ¨Buy,Buy you French fop¨ or ¨ Oh Foot ,oh Ball I hear thy call¨ and that at work, my mates have noticed a marked decline in my tendency to wear an arsenal shirt with a tie.

There is definitely a light at the end of the tunnel, now if I could only figure out how I got into this tunnel in the first place?????

Don McMahon
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http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/13086
 
Hrm. This Nasri thing just won't go away. Personally I still see him staying, but just in case - has he ever played in a midfield 2?
 
Ohh gosh finally!!!!
Need to continue with Baines and Samba!
I prefer Samba instead of Cahill i think he is stronger and realy wants to move to Arsenal!
 
So much for the balance of the squad, eh? We lose a LB, on our way to lose our captain and the mercenary, both pivotal figures in our midfield... and we get Gervinho, who might be very good for us, but still we have a lot of attackers (some of them who we have to unload as Vela and Bendtner) and not enough quality midfielders. Don't tell me we're sticking to Rosicknote, Song, Jack and Aaron. We need a lot more, and foremost, we need steel in this midfield.
Not to mention the replacement of Clichy, that's not being dealt with, apparently.

The signing of Gervinho is a good thing, I know, but it was supposed to be a bonus in this transfer window. It's not the position we need the most. I'm still worried, VERY worried. Cmon Arsene, don't disappoint us again...
 
I see you all worried but I've seen Wenger on french Tv telling that Arsenal would be a major actor during transfers and that this time Arsene would spend big.
 
YoungGun_UK said:
He played their for France against England end of last year.
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That seemed to me more like a flexible midfield three with him and Gourcuff taking it in turns to drop in behind Benzema, ahead of M'Vila in the holding role.

Once again, it doesn't make much sense to me spending so much money on someone and then attempting to shoehorn them into a position they're not to familiar with.
 
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7024049,00.html

Barcelona have so much class :ROLL:

What a bunch of arrogant so and so's!

If that is not disrespectful, then I don't know what is?! they will wait to the end of the season? what the fuck does that mean?! do they really think we will sell him right at the last minute?! for the umpteenth fucking time, we don't need to sell him, he has 4 years left on his contract you bunch of fucking pricks!

They are talking like they can do whatever they want? they don't seem to realise what the situation actually entails? it's ridiculous.

And what Alves is saying really doesn't help things does it? what a tosser!

Why can't they just do the deal and stop fucking around with everybody?!

It is good in a way, because unless Fabregas is stupid, then he must realise the only reason this deal will not go through, is entirely on Barcelonas side.
 
Did Alves really say that?! :SHOCK: I'll have to be sure cause the media screws things up but if he did, I'll start to believe the idea that Barcelona is behind this. It just doesn't make sense that a player who is representing his country at Copa America talks like this about this subject.
 
Of course it could have been the media screwing things up, but it is happening too often now.
 
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