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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

so it would seem something would be different from the two versions. gottabe the reason or otherwise why leave it out of 360 beta?
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

Haha, whats going on. I dont know what to believe anymore.

Very skeptical on this for now. I wont let myself believe anything! :D
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

is final-version playable @gc in nearly 2 weeks or beta (like every year before)???
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

bloody hell! you guys have gone crazy! Im gonna have to stay away from this forum for a while, so many NDA's broken its untrue!

seems to be true then , aaahh having got that cleared up feels great. my anticipation for this title has trebled with these announcements. hopefully as these nda's are broken you might be bale to touvh a litle n this info on the podcast.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

Okay, this is ridiculous. Can the people taking Stringer's word as gospel please read THIS, THIS, THIS and THIS. No offence Stringer, you know I think you're a good guy, but not everyone has sarcasm detectors.

I can tell you now though that Han knows what he is talking about.

I'm saying nothing else until people calm down...
I was joking then, BUT NOW I'M TELLING THE TRUTH. :)

Peace.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

has anyone got a direct link to the pes2008 teaser MPg on divshare because that one is the only one that works on my psp internet and mov doesnt work on my psp so pleeeeaaase
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

I was joking then, BUT NOW I'M TELLING THE TRUTH. :)

Peace.
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

Okay, I heard this from a new contact (long story) this evening, but when I came on here to report the news there was a certain piss-taker (again, no offence) who was posting something and claiming it to be true, which has caused a bit of confusion. He's also hinted at a few things that are untrue. So I would like to confirm a few things that I know of. Now this is information from a new contact, who I've known for a total of 24 hours, so I must admit (even though it shames me to say it) that I could be being wound up here, and my reputation is on the line with this lot (saying that, my reputation is "miserable ****" anyway, so it won't hurt it too much). But so far a lot of what I have to say has been said by Han. So make your own mind up. You are all individuals, it is up to you.

Okay, do you want the good news or the bad news first? I've gone through the trouble of adding spoiler tags so that you can choose for yourself. No need to thank me. I'm just good like that.

The good news:
+ The Master League has had a bit more than a makeover. I never thought I would see this in my lifetime. Now, at the start of the ML, you're assigned a sponsor. Most likely, because you've just started out in the lowest division, you'll be given a crappy sponsor that you would never want to see on your beloved team's kit. And by the way, it will appear on your team's kit (cool or what). But as time goes on, you'll be approached by better sponsors, and you can negotiate yourself some serious moolah. And when I say moolah, I mean actual money (well not actual money, you won't get £3m sent to your door, but we're not dealing in credits any more, we're dealing in ... Euros, which is a start - you would imagine Konami will add GBP before release but it's cutting it fine now).

+ Continuing the Master League news... YES, THERE'S MORE. There are now more than two divisions. The final number has not yet been decided on - the amount of teams in the game is a factor with this and it's being looked at - but currently it's between four and five. There are a number of empty slots which it's assumed are for the creation of new teams - this isn't definite though, and as of now there's only around 20. As with the number of ML divisions though, this could change.

+ With the stadium editor, you have so many tools to create your team's stadium. You can edit the type of the stands, the colour of the seats, the adboards AND, calling all net fans, yes, you can officially start masturbating, you can edit the nets (including, but not limited to, the colour and the shape). Personally though, I'm not into nets, I'm more into the pitches. Which is great because you can even choose your own pitch from a pretty large list. Apparently it will be very easy to create your team's stadium, down to the finest detail.

The bad news:
- The PC/360/PS3 versions aren't exactly the same. They almost are, but not exactly. It's assumed at the moment that the game-modes are the same across all versions, but after being shown the 360 and PS3 graphics in motion, it became apparent to my contact that the graphics on the PS3 are ever-so-slightly more detailed (they are both unfinished versions though so it could still change, but it's doubtable at this moment in time). Apparently it's only a few things that are different, such as the crowd - i.e. on the 360 they won't follow the ball, whereas on the PS3 they will.

- 360-degree movement was added - should be good news, right? Well not exactly. Seabass wasn't happy with the way it was working and so it was taken out again. God. Damn. It.

- The stadium editor only lets you create stadiums, not edit the ones already included with the game. Bit of a bastard when all you want to do is edit one adboard at the San Siro...
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

why can't everyone just spill the beans?
i don't get why ppl have to hold info back, i mean, we're gonna find out in 2months when we own the game anyway
and its not like EA are gonna copy any features this late
and why hold back on what licenses PES has?

no news is bad news

EDIT - Didnt see above post :D that came quick!!!
 
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

- 360-degree movement was added - should be good news, right? Well not exactly. Seabass wasn't happy with the way it was working and so it was taken out again. God. Damn. It.
The way it was, it is no bad news that it was removed. There were stutters in the movement, making it unplayable ;)

I like to stress that all my info is third hand info. My contact had another contact from where it came...
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

What was wrong with the 360 degree control???
And is there going to be more angles than current just not 360 or is it returned back to 45 degrees?
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

The way it was, it is no bad news that it was removed. There were stutters in the movement, making it unplayable ;)
Still though, it would have been nice. To me, if you want to revolutionise your game, that's where you start (i.e. 12 months ago). Footballers aren't limited to moving in zig-zags in real life.

But don't get me wrong, my biggest fault with the game has always been the ML, and now I'm really, really looking forward to the game.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

That is one of the things that annoys me about footy games.
Especially on PES6 online, what people are going to do is so predictible because they only have a very limited number of directions to turn.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

I like the sound of that Mr. Bauer :salute:

I really hope we can create electronic adboards [-o<
 
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

But how many teams more or less for each division???

I mean maybe we'll get more leagues this time around. I hope some brasilian and argentinians.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

Ths all sounds too good to be true :D:D like most people ill wait for "official" announcements before officially grinning like a ape with honey but im finding it hard to contain me excitment :D
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

But how many teams more or less for each division???
Forgot to mention this, sorry. I have been talking to this guy for hours on end, my brain is frazzled and there was only so much I could jot down. :D

It's not known yet but with so few teams being in the game currently ("so few" meaning more-or-less the same number as last year, not enough to fill a ton of 20-team ML leagues), the worst case scenario could be four 8/10/12-team divisions and no other leagues. It's not been made clear as yet.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

Does this guy know anything about licensing or online features?
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

The preview of Pes2008 on ps2 is on gamespot now.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

Does this guy know anything about licensing or online features?
Nothing new to add to licensing, it's all the same as has been revealed previously (a few new international licenses, the two Prem teams, etc.) - and online-wise it's all disabled at the moment.

The preview of Pes2008 on ps2 is on gamespot now.
EDIT: Good spot!
 
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Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

GameSpot said:
and square for shooting at goal (although this is still as touchy as ever)

Holy shit. You have got to be kidding me. Well there's one core gameplay mechanic they still need to fix...

GameSpot said:
But UK gamers will be disappointed to read that no Premier League sides are included this year, a step back from last year's PES, which at least featured Arsenal and Manchester United. Fans of star player Ronaldinho also miss out, with the Brazilian omitted from the game.
No Premiership teams, Konami saving their money? And obviously EA have said to Ronaldinho, you can only be in our game.

Weird though, the 360/PS3 versions have been confirmed to have Newcastle and Tottenham licensed... What is going on?
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

I think Gamespot don't have a clue. I mean, with the "better defence", they said there was a lot more "turnovers". Not playin basketball here guys...
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

Okay, I heard this from a new contact (long story) this evening, but when I came on here to report the news there was a certain piss-taker (again, no offence) who was posting something and claiming it to be true, which has caused a bit of confusion. He's also hinted at a few things that are untrue. So I would like to confirm a few things that I know of. Now this is information from a new contact, who I've known for a total of 24 hours, so I must admit (even though it shames me to say it) that I could be being wound up here, and my reputation is on the line with this lot (saying that, my reputation is "miserable ****" anyway, so it won't hurt it too much). But so far a lot of what I have to say has been said by Han. So make your own mind up. You are all individuals, it is up to you.

Okay, do you want the good news or the bad news first? I've gone through the trouble of adding spoiler tags so that you can choose for yourself. No need to thank me. I'm just good like that.

The good news:
+ The Master League has had a bit more than a makeover. I never thought I would see this in my lifetime. Now, at the start of the ML, you're assigned a sponsor. Most likely, because you've just started out in the lowest division, you'll be given a crappy sponsor that you would never want to see on your beloved team's kit. And by the way, it will appear on your team's kit (cool or what). But as time goes on, you'll be approached by better sponsors, and you can negotiate yourself some serious moolah. And when I say moolah, I mean actual money (well not actual money, you won't get £3m sent to your door, but we're not dealing in credits any more, we're dealing in ... Euros, which is a start - you would imagine Konami will add GBP before release but it's cutting it fine now).

+ Continuing the Master League news... YES, THERE'S MORE. There are now more than two divisions. The final number has not yet been decided on - the amount of teams in the game is a factor with this and it's being looked at - but currently it's between four and five. There are a number of empty slots which it's assumed are for the creation of new teams - this isn't definite though, and as of now there's only around 20. As with the number of ML divisions though, this could change.

+ With the stadium editor, you have so many tools to create your team's stadium. You can edit the type of the stands, the colour of the seats, the adboards AND, calling all net fans, yes, you can officially start masturbating, you can edit the nets (including, but not limited to, the colour and the shape). Personally though, I'm not into nets, I'm more into the pitches. Which is great because you can even choose your own pitch from a pretty large list. Apparently it will be very easy to create your team's stadium, down to the finest detail.

The bad news:
- The PC/360/PS3 versions aren't exactly the same. They almost are, but not exactly. It's assumed at the moment that the game-modes are the same across all versions, but after being shown the 360 and PS3 graphics in motion, it became apparent to my contact that the graphics on the PS3 are ever-so-slightly more detailed (they are both unfinished versions though so it could still change, but it's doubtable at this moment in time). Apparently it's only a few things that are different, such as the crowd - i.e. on the 360 they won't follow the ball, whereas on the PS3 they will.

- 360-degree movement was added - should be good news, right? Well not exactly. Seabass wasn't happy with the way it was working and so it was taken out again. God. Damn. It.

- The stadium editor only lets you create stadiums, not edit the ones already included with the game. Bit of a bastard when all you want to do is edit one adboard at the San Siro...

JB thanks alot man u are star, thats the best news i heard so far:applause:
shit i shouldn't have read the good news at this time, i can't sleep now damn u jB damn u:mrgreen:
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

So many mixed emotions right now, I don't know what to say.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

jb thanks for all that info. is that confirmed that u cant edit already made stadiums and will there be fake teams in the lower divisions or what?
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

Intriguing stuff.
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

Thanks Jack for this news, I realy hope this is true man. It's the best news I have heard in years.

Now to the Gamespot preview

But UK gamers will be disappointed to read that no Premier League sides are included this year, a step back from last year's PES, which at least featured Arsenal and Manchester United (although with months to go before the game's official release, Konami may still be working behind the scenes to grab some of those licences). Fans of star player Ronaldinho also miss out, with the Brazilian omitted from the game.

WTF? I thought we allready knew that Spurs and Newcastle are the 2 new teams. And Ronaldinho omitted from the game? Is this the same deal as we had with Kahn? not at Bayern but still at the national team? :S
 
Re: WE/PES 2008 Next Gen - Discussions Thread (Last Update 08/06/07)

I can't see two teams being licensed in the next-gen games but not in the last-gen games. Something funny is going on. They've bought the licenses for Newcastle and Tottenham, otherwise their badges wouldn't be on the screens released. It wouldn't be allowed, ever. So either GameSpot have got their facts wrong, or they're not licensed on last-gen but are on next-gen. I'd go with the first one. But it's very odd.

As for the Kahn/Ronaldinho stuff, Kahn went to court off his own bat, he wanted to stop all games companies from including him and "making money from his image without his permission". Whereas with Ronaldinho, I'm imagining it's not him driving this but EA, who have given him a bag of money and gone to court on his behalf saying "we now have an exclusive contract with Ronaldinho and we own his rights to appear in a computer game, so he's no longer allowed to appear in any others".

So it's Ronaldinho this year, Rooney next year and eventually, when they get $527 billion dollars, they'll be buying the computer game rights of every player in the Premiership for $1 milllion each.
 
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