Since PES 2009 PC/ PS3 had the same match engine as the PS2, I would say its official guide had the better explanation. But still I doesn't satisfy my curiosity.
There are 12 teams in the D2 league, I can confirm. I don't know how many in the D1 league, but I think it's 16.
It's hard for me to compare, because I started playing these versions relatively recently. But I will take your observation into consideration to have a better vision for the gameplay.
Hi, I'm playing your ISO. I wanted to ask. I see that after Sao Paulo, the Boca Juniors and River Plate kits are shown at approximately unknown 8600, but they don't appear in the game.
Winning Eleven 6 FE ps2 is amazing game.
Hey mate.
very much so
I've noted that in a previous post thread , I'm currently playing j league dlc on we 2013 since a month I think and even almost every japanese player including second division have his own player id with different movement can you even imagine how detailed is that ?? we're talking about second division teams ..
hisato sato is a literal beast in this game , he is unstoppable.. , every game against sanfrecce hiroshima is a live nightmare !
Well the first thing to say is thank you very much for your detailed reply!!!Hey mate.
I've never did coach mode, but will try to give you suggestions based on how the AI plays.
Undiscussed kings of CPU dribbling frequency are certainly Pes 12 and 13; given their rather separate nature from the rest of the saga in terms of physics and "enviroment", they are hate or love chapters, so as 360° titles you'll find mostly strong endorsements or harsh critics, however I can confidently say there are no other chapters in which AI dribbles so much and so consistently (some would say even too much perhaps). Of the "modern" titles PES 15 had CPU dribbling a lot as well, I'm not a fan for other reasons but you could give it a try.
Other good mentions are WE 2008 and Pes 2008 (both PS2 and the infamous PC edition, which I personally completely revalued) and Pes 2009 (can't say I played it too much lately, but it had very well characterized superstars). WE7/Pes 3 had a very smart CPU in possession (one of my favourites ever) that knew when to place a beautiful, natural dribbling, but it was more rare to see it take the ball in let's say the last 35 meters and start dribbling with the idea of a goal. I would make exactly the same point, word for word, for Pes 17. Pes 10 and 11 (the latter in particular) had very good sparkles of individual dribbling as well, but they fall more in the territory of those last above iirc.
As for the "historical" chapters past 3; Winning Eleven 8 Liveware Evolution had a good CPU in terms of indivduality and dribbling, but replaying it a bit lately the latter part is less marked than my memories suggested (maybe I should play it more to confirm it or not). We9 chapters unfortunately are super lacking in this (given how bad is AI in possession, I suspect while a masterpiece to play in first person it's probably one of the worse for coach mode, but I'll just leave it as a thought), WE 10 had a good AI (way better than Pes 6, which is kind of bland) and maybe you could give it a try too.
That said, again, I've never played coach mode so perhaps one of those I underestimated could surprise you
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Thank you for getting back to me.
Hey mate.
I've never did coach mode, but will try to give you suggestions based on how the AI plays.
Undiscussed kings of CPU dribbling frequency are certainly Pes 12 and 13; given their rather separate nature from the rest of the saga in terms of physics and "enviroment", they are hate or love chapters, so as 360° titles you'll find mostly strong endorsements or harsh critics, however I can confidently say there are no other chapters in which AI dribbles so much and so consistently (some would say even too much perhaps). Of the "modern" titles PES 15 had CPU dribbling a lot as well, I'm not a fan for other reasons but you could give it a try.
Other good mentions are WE 2008 and Pes 2008 (both PS2 and the infamous PC edition, which I personally completely revalued) and Pes 2009 (can't say I played it too much lately, but it had very well characterized superstars). WE7/Pes 3 had a very smart CPU in possession (one of my favourites ever) that knew when to place a beautiful, natural dribbling, but it was more rare to see it take the ball in let's say the last 35 meters and start dribbling with the idea of a goal. I would make exactly the same point, word for word, for Pes 17. Pes 10 and 11 (the latter in particular) had very good sparkles of individual dribbling as well, but they fall more in the territory of those last above iirc.
As for the "historical" chapters past 3; Winning Eleven 8 Liveware Evolution had a good CPU in terms of indivduality and dribbling, but replaying it a bit lately the latter part is less marked than my memories suggested (maybe I should play it more to confirm it or not). We9 chapters unfortunately are super lacking in this (given how bad is AI in possession, I suspect while a masterpiece to play in first person it's probably one of the worse for coach mode, but I'll just leave it as a thought), WE 10 had a good AI (way better than Pes 6, which is kind of bland) and maybe you could give it a try too.
That said, again, I've never played coach mode so perhaps one of those I underestimated could surprise you
You are welcome! I remember we both love a CPU that dribbles from other Pes 21 threads 🙂Well the first thing to say is thank you very much for your detailed reply!!!
Much appreciated Madmac79 👍
I completely agree with you on PES 2012 and PES 2013!
I downloaded both, simmed a match between City and QPR and it was an absolute joy to see a player like Taarabt do his tricks, even in his own midfield! The diffrence between Silva and Wright-Phillips was ultra evident!
And I really enjoyed watching these games.
But here's the problem (because there is always a "but"...): I don't care about the current or recent seasons, I want to play (or coach) with teams from the '90.
And I didn't find any retro '90 season for PES 2012 and 2013... Only an historical retro one but I'm not into that.
Is there something related to these titles? Is it just me who hasn't found what I was looking for?
So I discovered that PES 6 has various retro '90 season mods.
I downloaded this great one by Vasovic https://evoweb.uk/threads/pes6-fifa-96-patch-95-96-finished-euro-version-version-latina.91387/
I think it has a modded gameplay because the matches are very fun to watch (or maybe 'cause I come from that utterly crap called PES 2021
But even a "God Mode" stats Ronaldo hesitates to dribble past his opponents... Strikers do the "stop, pass backward and run forward" bs too much for my tastes.
Is there a gameplay editor or anything that can be used to edit the gameplay?
I'll take your suggestion about PES 5. I saw some '90 patches for it, time to take a look!
Just one last question about "Pes 2008 (both PS2 and the infamous PC edition, which I personally completely revalued)".
I think I din't play it when it was released but for everyone, the PC version is terrible.
May I ask why you have reevaluated it?
Depending on what version of PES but since you're asking in the retro thread, players with the abilities of Dribble (They will attempt to keep the ball and dribble) and Tactical Dribble (they will attempt to keep the ball and dribble until they find a team mate who is in a good position)
I found a way to make the AI to get past through various defenders but I never shared anything because it's necessary to "break" the game
I saw a retro patch for PES 2013 but no retro seasons... I'll take another look at it.
Tested PES 5 in coach mode using the Legends V2 patch and I didn't see any particular differences compared to PES 6...
Crystal clear. Shame there isn't any retro season for PES 2008 but I found one for WE10!
