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The Retro-PES Corner

Still very much play the old PES but updated and still get the same feelings I got way back then, so for me it’s ‘the good days’ are here now. ;)
I see things especially great series of games like that. A bit like an timeless good track + the fact that we can play in enhanced resolution/shaders/remade and all etc.
There's no old weird cinematics in ugly 3d or whatever.

It's not the case for many games, especially on Ps1 who didn't aged well for example Resident Evil from that era : fortunately it seems for those games the remasters are really good and revamp controls and even gameplay. I brought the 3 first RE for example, and the 3/Nemesis who was too short became my favourite of the 3 remasters (Tomb Raider as a example too, Onimusha, 2D games with filters as i hate squared pixel art etc.)
 
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PES2020-2021 epic moments scenes were more fluid and realistic than this



Right, especially the simple pass, but it's way better than all Football games we got right now.... And overall animations better than many PS4 version.
You can't see it clearly in that vid (to me at least more realistic animations and variety whle moving than P16, P18, P15 for sure, also P17 but all the rest is okay in that version so i don't care really).

But more doesn't mean better quality : PES 21 got less dribbling animations panel (yes you can try) but movement are more realistic and following a logic, better speed between each animations etc.
So it looks better overalll. I also found the game on PS5, no joke, but as beautifull if not more than all others PS4 PES, more photogenic...
but souless about players reactions, goal celebrations, showing publics, well atmosphere. You miss the box but very close it's like nothing happened instead of taking if for a good scoring try action.

but my real issue with the game concern all related to kicking, so ball physics vs feet. It's too straight, too "logic" but in the wrong way (not too much rebound or effect while passing, lofted pass are pretty straight like the ball isn't slowing down before the other player receive the ball etc.

PS: Doesn't matter as long as you can play any matchs with real teams on competitions aswell as there's no edit mode. if i want a competition i'd rather choose anything else than MyLeague with a fake team and card again.
I'm not even asking for ML directly but at least cup, league mode and Edit (full edit, no changing name and goodbye we're not on 1998)
 
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