For it's PES 2010 the fatest. And the worst in term of AI defense2009, the fastest PES ever made, but the very first with DLC and update :
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For it's PES 2010 the fatest. And the worst in term of AI defense2009, the fastest PES ever made, but the very first with DLC and update :
PES 2009 i couldn't thats the only one impossible to play seriously. But i didn't liked that much FIFA 09 neither where player runned faster with the ball than without. There's was poor years like that where both were bad and good year like for Fifa and PES 11.
It's funny cause at the times I bought a Ps3 mostly for MGS4 and Fifa; picked exactly Fifa 09, I remember trying hard to like it but I ended up disappointed, dropping it in a few weeks. Maybe (or most likely, surely) I was too used to Pes and was expecting something different than what it was, I'd be curious to re-play it today regardless of his true shortcomings.. might do it if I'll found the disc. Fact is that I couldn't love that Fifa gen (from 07-08, which I haven't played, to 11) until only recently, when I replayed both 11 on pc and on Ps3, and found all the good there was.
I'm happy to hear you're trying out PES2012, it's definitely worth a shot.I just saw this bro! Amazing write up and review. I've been really enjoying PES 2011 and PES 2013, and I want to try the 2nd game of the trilogy!
I feel like both 2011 and 2013 have their own advantages over the other.
PES 2011: Better graphics and presentation, smoother gameplay, deeper Master League and tactics, overall a more beautiful game.
PES 2013: Many more active patches, especially for obscure leagues, different pass assistance levels, more varied difficulty.
Can't wait to PES 2012, downloading it right now. I'm expecting a combination of both!
Re. the PS3 -- is there still a PSN for it? If so, maybe the FIFA09 demo will still be available.
I've still got my PS3 and a while back managed to get the PS3 versions of nearly all the 'lost PES' editions. As everyone here knows PES2015/16/17/18 on PS3 are all different games from the ones we all played after the generational shift to PS4 happened. I've now managed to snag 3 of the 4. I'm just waiting for PES2018 on PS3 to come down in price from the £20-30 that it still goes for, which is due to its reputation as the best of the PS3's lost PESes.
I'd like to complete a total, playable PES Library, stretching from Konami Soccer all the way PES2021, including all the PS2 Winning Elevens. These latter WE games will be a longer term project and might just end up as PC emulator versions. First I'm grabbing the low-hanging fruit of all the easy 'lost editions' that we missed due to console generation changes. That includes all the PS2 versions from PES2009 to that console's swansong, PES2014 (which I've played emulated and feels extraordinarily good).
The intention isn't to collect PES games like human heads and then sit there rocking and humming. It's to actually play them all, one after the other, over the coming years. Play meaning a minimum of 5 complete seasons on Master League. Each.
Of the three, PES2017 plays really well, and gives me strong 'you really could play the arse off this for months' vibes. I got that for £4 on eBay.
PES2015 on PS3 is uncomfortably almost identical to PES2014 on PS3. And I'm saying that as a PES2014-liker. The issue is that I wanted PES2015 to be more like the great PS4 version (a minor classic IMO) than PES2014, the first great problem child of the PESverse. (eFootball being the second, much-more-of-a-problem child.)
I haven't tried PES2016 yet. I found its PS4 counterpart a bit too casual and generally unPESlike, so I'm biased against its PS3 cousin even though I know it'll be different.
So I was all set to start an ML on PES2017 on PS3, and then FIFA 22 distracted me, but EA have started their annual undermining of a decent launch version, and like a bird flying south for the winter I can sense PES calling.
Currently the best price on Amazon, preowned, is £34 inc. P&P, which is a staggering price for a 4-year-old football game on a two-generations-ago console. Things are only slightly better on eBay. CeX online do it for £20 plus P&P. The PS4 version is £4.Similar to my Covid hobby! Built up a solid collection now with a relatively small number of unique titles missing from PS1 and PS2 especially. PES 2018 on PS3 can be quite pricey. 😕
Currently the best price on Amazon, preowned, is £34 inc. P&P, which is a staggering price for a 4-year-old football game on a two-generations-ago console. Things are only slightly better on eBay. CeX online do it for £20 plus P&P. The PS4 version is £4.
I can afford to wait though as it will not hold that value for long. And there's actual reason in amassing all the old games: to actually play them, extensively. PES2017 for PS3 is first in the long queue. I fancy some PES2014 on the PS2 after that (the PS2 games work better on emulation these days, and upscaled on PCSX2 are so good!). I will get the physical versions to keep. I am currently quite liking FIFA 22 and am content to carry on there, making PES all the sweeter when its time inevitably comes around again.
Thanks, I will give it a goI advice you to try this gameplay patch, it includes a reduce in the points you earn from 500-1000 to 100-200 (draw-win)
https://evoweb.uk/threads/elaf-ai-tool-for-pes5-new-v9-3-8-oct-21.81326/#post-3461973
PES5 without question is the peak of the series. PES games boil down to 'PES5' and 'Other'. And PES fans divide into those who grumble about PES5 having too many fouls, and those who know that they're wrong. PES5's fouls are the standard by which all football games' fouls must be judged. Only a fellow PES5 zealot will understand just how serious I am about that. Every football game since PES5 has fallen short. Every single one, on all platforms, all licences, all titles, all editions. All are deficient next to PES5. I played PES5 for a complete year and was sorry to leave it when PES6 came out.Bros, I have a very important yet simple question, and some might think controversial haha.
Which game do you prefer? PES 5 or PES 6, and why? I'd love to hear details about this comparison..
In South America, where I'm from, and also in Spain, I think PES 6 is considered in many quarters as the greatest PES of all time. And I've noticed that here at evo-web, opinions are a bit more split, perhaps I've noticed that more people say PES 5 is superior.. But in anycase here's pretty much the reason why I ask:
Hi guys, sorry for my multiple posts in a row, it might seem like I'm spamming the thread, but I'm really not trying to. It's just that I have so many questions regarding these retro PES, since most of these retro PES are new to me.. And they're just really fascinating.
Bros, I have a very important yet simple question, and some might think controversial haha.
Which game do you prefer? PES 5 or PES 6, and why? I'd love to hear details about this comparison..
In South America, where I'm from, and also in Spain, I think PES 6 is considered in many quarters as the greatest PES of all time. And I've noticed that here at evo-web, opinions are a bit more split, perhaps I've noticed that more people say PES 5 is superior.. But in anycase here's pretty much the reason why I ask:
I am going more and more retro with my PES installments. After several solid years of playing PES 2017, 19, and 21, I was ready go explore the retro installments, which I had never played, and here are some conclusions.
1. I know I've changed my mind A LOT about this, or at least I've given a lot of different opinions on the matter, but ater a solid month of playing and testing PES 2011, 2012, and 2013, I can honestly say, that at least for now, PES 2013 is my least favorite out of the bunch. A combination of the presentation (which seems the messiest and least detailed out of the 3 installments), and the gameplay (which, to me at least, is too through ball oriented and kind of one dimensional, at least to my eyes) did not gel with my style of play. I know PES 2013 is the favorite of many, and is a very well respected game in the community, but it just.. Lacked something at least for me that PES 2011 and PES 2012 have. I can't really pinpoint it, but PES 2011 and PES 2012 just feel more right to me, (I am still floored by the menus, which I believe are the best in any PES, and the gameplay is very enjoyable too), and I think in football games, feeling is everything. The unfortunate part about this, however, is that 2013 has an awesome South American patch with second divisions which I really liked (Icaro PES Tricolor). Even if it is lacking in many details, I liked the fact that it had all of South American second divisions, if only this patch were available for PES 2011 or PES 2012, that'd be ideal. But oh well..
2. So now, I've acquired PES 5 original season, PES 6 original season, and a South American patch for PES 6 as well (Called PES 6 America), and I've literally spent the whole night playing these two installments. I can definitely see why there are proponents of both games. But before I say my opinion on the matter. I would love to hear you guys' take on these two games, once again, covering as much as you can, gameplay, modes, depth of master league, what feeling the game gives you, etc.. I think this is the right place to post these questions in anycase, and keep the ball rolling. If you guys want to chime in my opinions on PES 2011, 2012, and 2013 above, please feel free to do so as well.
Hi guys, sorry for my multiple posts in a row, it might seem like I'm spamming the thread, but I'm really not trying to. It's just that I have so many questions regarding these retro PES, since most of these retro PES are new to me.. And they're just really fascinating.
Bros, I have a very important yet simple question, and some might think controversial haha.
Which game do you prefer? PES 5 or PES 6, and why? I'd love to hear details about this comparison..
In South America, where I'm from, and also in Spain, I think PES 6 is considered in many quarters as the greatest PES of all time. And I've noticed that here at evo-web, opinions are a bit more split, perhaps I've noticed that more people say PES 5 is superior.. But in anycase here's pretty much the reason why I ask:
I am going more and more retro with my PES installments. After several solid years of playing PES 2017, 19, and 21, I was ready go explore the retro installments, which I had never played, and here are some conclusions.
1. I know I've changed my mind A LOT about this, or at least I've given a lot of different opinions on the matter, but ater a solid month of playing and testing PES 2011, 2012, and 2013, I can honestly say, that at least for now, PES 2013 is my least favorite out of the bunch. A combination of the presentation (which seems the messiest and least detailed out of the 3 installments), and the gameplay (which, to me at least, is too through ball oriented and kind of one dimensional, at least to my eyes) did not gel with my style of play. I know PES 2013 is the favorite of many, and is a very well respected game in the community, but it just.. Lacked something at least for me that PES 2011 and PES 2012 have. I can't really pinpoint it, but PES 2011 and PES 2012 just feel more right to me, (I am still floored by the menus, which I believe are the best in any PES, and the gameplay is very enjoyable too), and I think in football games, feeling is everything. The unfortunate part about this, however, is that 2013 has an awesome South American patch with second divisions which I really liked (Icaro PES Tricolor). Even if it is lacking in many details, I liked the fact that it had all of South American second divisions, if only this patch were available for PES 2011 or PES 2012, that'd be ideal. But oh well..
2. So now, I've acquired PES 5 original season, PES 6 original season, and a South American patch for PES 6 as well (Called PES 6 America), and I've literally spent the whole night playing these two installments. I can definitely see why there are proponents of both games. But before I say my opinion on the matter. I would love to hear you guys' take on these two games, once again, covering as much as you can, gameplay, modes, depth of master league, what feeling the game gives you, etc.. I think this is the right place to post these questions in anycase, and keep the ball rolling. If you guys want to chime in my opinions on PES 2011, 2012, and 2013 above, please feel free to do so as well.
IMO PES6 needs a gameplay patch, there's few (1-2) gameplay patchs for that game.s a result, PES6 is far easier and, as a result, I prefer and recommend PES5.
IMO PES6 needs a gameplay patch, there's few (1-2) gameplay patchs for that game.
I recommend you to try Elaf gameplay patch https://evoweb.uk/threads/elaf-ai-tool-for-pes5-new-v9-3-8-oct-21.81326/
The Winning Elevens are my great undiscovered country in PES terms and I'm interested in completing my education. Which PES editions is each WE game you mentioned above the equivalent of? I know that WE9LE is 'Squid Game PES5' and have played it on PC with enjoyment, but I have murky awareness of all the others. E.g. I just looked at some WE5 on YouTube and it looks like a mashup of several early PS2 PESes. Which WE matches which PES or does that not really apply to the WEs?I find the revised editions (WE5-6 Final Evolution, WE7 International, and WE8-10 Liveware Evolution) to be - without exception - clearly superior to their originals
The Winning Elevens are my great undiscovered country in PES terms and I'm interested in completing my education. Which PES editions is each WE game you mentioned above the equivalent of? I know that WE9LE is 'Squid Game PES5' and have played it on PC with enjoyment, but I have murky awareness of all the others. E.g. I just looked at some WE5 on YouTube and it looks like a mashup of several early PS2 PESes. Which WE matches which PES or does that not really apply to the WEs?