The PC Building Thread

You do indeed get what you pay for but I'm still not sure whether to spend nearly £1000 on something that essentially can just increase games to 60 fps and that are higher resolution. I'm in no doubt that PCs can do incredible things but the vast majority of games to me look like they're essentially the same as consoles but at 60fps, and higher res.

I appreciate that's not the hardware's fault but game devs bridging a gap between pc and consoles, but it is what it is.

Is that really worth £1000? I don't even like games at 60fps which I'm sure will get laughed at, it doesn't look right, like watching a movie with motion flow on or a tv show with one of those cameras with extra frames that makes everything look like a home movie. There's a reason Hollywood movies only use 24fps.
 
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Suuuuupertalk said:
You do indeed get what you pay for but I'm still not sure whether to spend nearly £1000 on something that essentially can just increase games to 60 fps and that are higher resolution. I'm in no doubt that PCs can do incredible things but the vast majority of games to me look like they're essentially the same as consoles but at 60fps, and higher res.

I appreciate that's not the hardware's fault but game devs bridging a gap between pc and consoles, but it is what it is.

Is that really worth £1000? I don't even like games at 60fps which I'm sure will get laughed at, it doesn't look right, like watching a movie with motion flow on or a tv show with one of those cameras with extra frames that makes everything look like a home movie. There's a reason Hollywood movies only use 24fps.
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PC games don't run at 60FPS they run at about 100.
PC's are essentially about the graphics yes, but they are also about the modding, the modding alone on a PC is worth the extra money even though the modding community for games as gone down alot since it's hayday in the early 2000's.


But PC's do not look essentially the same if you saw the same game running on a PC next to an XBOX you would be amazed about how much difference there actually even in a non graphic game like FIFA it still just looks incredible on PC when maxed out with 8xAA.
But the main difference between XBOX and PC is no doubt BF3 it is just incredible how shit that looks on an XBOX when you have been playing the PC version.
 
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Yep, a pc can run much higher than 60fps but you are capped by the refresh rate of your display. I get 60fps because my display runs at 60hz, and v-sync caps it at that. A game running at 24fps (like a movie) would look horrible and feel less responsive. 60fps is much better for gaming. Smoother and more fluid.

PC gaming is definitely worth it. I decided not to bother with the next gen consoles as I don't believe they will be as amazing as many people envisage, therefore an easy decision for me. I kind of got fed up of the restrictive, locked down, and increasingly casual-focused approach of the consoles. I feel PC gaming is more grown up and open and less restrictive.
 
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There has to be at least a couple of games in history which were better on a console than they were on a PC.

I can think of Sim City on the SNES was the best ever version of the game.
PES was always better on the PS2 than it was on PC, but not graphically.
 
I remember playing a little bit of PES3 on the PC. It looked better and played the same to me. Perhaps it's to do with the pad. Some people cannot play PES without a dual shock.
 
Guys. I now have a problem with the WIn7 activation code.

I used the Fujitsu OEM Win 7 CD to install. Now Windows is all up and running fine but says I need to activate. The key that's with it won#t work (presumably coz it's already in use with my new laptop).

Any suggestions? Will ACER send me my OEM key from the old HDD thats malfunctioned? If so, will it even work?
 
So hang on mate you have used a Fujitsu OEM Windows 7 disk to re-install the OS on an Acer machine? Of course it will fail as the Activation ID wont match what is expected.

You could try speaking to MS themselves and explaining the Situation. They might be able to assist you in getting it activated with its original Product ID and License.
 
kevano22 said:
Guys. I now have a problem with the WIn7 activation code.

I used the Fujitsu OEM Win 7 CD to install. Now Windows is all up and running fine but says I need to activate. The key that's with it won#t work (presumably coz it's already in use with my new laptop).

Any suggestions? Will ACER send me my OEM key from the old HDD thats malfunctioned? If so, will it even work?
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Are you trying to use a key which has already been activated on another machine?
 
bsmaff said:
I disagree with the PS2 version, I always thought PES played like shit on the PC due to being a very very poor port.

But I always played WE and never played PES as it was alot more arcady.
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mine ran fine on my pc. 60+fps , looks gorgous. wasnt a bad port IMO.

wasnt a demanding game either. the current gen ps3 versions where more demanding.
 
I wasn't talking about graphics or how smooth it ran that was all fine.

It just played like shit compared to the PS2 version.
 
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kevano22 said:
Guys. I now have a problem with the WIn7 activation code.

I used the Fujitsu OEM Win 7 CD to install. Now Windows is all up and running fine but says I need to activate. The key that's with it won#t work (presumably coz it's already in use with my new laptop).

Any suggestions? Will ACER send me my OEM key from the old HDD thats malfunctioned? If so, will it even work?
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Check your PM.
 
bsmaff said:
I wasn't talking about graphics or how smooth it ran that was all fine.

It just played like shit compared to the PS2 version.
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When someone usualy says some game playd like shit, they usualy mean the following:

  1. poo framerates
  2. poor graphics
  3. gameplay dumbed down
  4. poor controls

That is not the case with PES on pc, for me anyway.

pes for me had:
  • beter graphics
  • smoother gameplay due to 60+fps
  • Modding
  • identical controls as i could use my ps2 joypad fully functional with vibration and analogue sticks
  • identical gameplay

i dont know what your personally talking about as for me, PES has always be superior on the pc then on the consoles from day one. Half of the users would agree with me here seeing evo web was born and breaded due to modding PES.
 
SuperSonic said:
So hang on mate you have used a Fujitsu OEM Windows 7 disk to re-install the OS on an Acer machine? Of course it will fail as the Activation ID wont match what is expected.

You could try speaking to MS themselves and explaining the Situation. They might be able to assist you in getting it activated with its original Product ID and License.
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Yes - thanks, I'll give it a try. I presumed this was the case.
 
jonneymendoza said:
Half of the users would agree with me here seeing evo web was born and breaded due to modding PES.
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Exactly as you put it then half the users....
When I played PES on PC I always found it to play not quite right, but as also stated it was also because I only played WE which was far superior to PES anyway.

I just always thought when playing it was a shitty and lazy port.

This is obviously just my opinion but I thought the previous generation of PES sucked on PC. The current generation is however much much better on PC than it is on consoles, same as FIFA that is a million times better on PC than on console.

But no point arguing about it as we clearly have a much differnt opinion on the old generation of PES.
 
Jamezinho said:
Don't rush it. Make sure you understand all stages of the build and if you don't Google it or read the manual.

Make sure you have the CPU lined up with the socket correctly before you clamp it down.

Make sure you plug in the CPU power connector. This seems to be one of the top mistakes that will prevent a pc from running. I know, I've done it!
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cheers !!!
 
Damn! I have a decent monitor right now and a tower I could use, that would bring down the cost a little I guess
 
Yes you should be fine, they're just steam codes, you'll need an Amazon account with a registered US address, when I needed the same I just created an Amazon account with some random Walmart address and that worked fine, it's digital stuff so nothing will be mailed out anyways, just need a legitimate payment method and you should be good to go :)
 
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