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interkarter said:
this format is just another gambling galore, i personally despise it
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I hate the league system in European competitions. It was perfectly fine when they had groups and aways goals. Pretty much every match meant something which made it more exciting. Now it's kind of irrelevant if you lose a few games in the league format. There's no real excitement in the league format, the only excitement comes from the knockout stage now.
 
PES4eva said:
I hate the league system in European competitions. It was perfectly fine when they had groups and aways goals. Pretty much every match meant something which made it more exciting. Now it's kind of irrelevant if you lose a few games in the league format. There's no real excitement in the league format, the only excitement comes from the knockout stage now.
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The new knockout stage format of this season's European club competitions is much more exciting than the league phase games.
The possibilities of a big games being happened during the first two rounds of knockout phases are now greater. Manchester City facing Real Madrid in the "new Round of 16 playoff" this season is something weird from this new format, as this is a big game that usually decided the outcome of the competition. The winner of the last 3 seasons of this competition came from this game. But I'm still doubting about chances for either sides, especially given the fact the other big teams are also having such a great form this season, like Liverpool topping both Premier League and Champions League tables, Barcelona having some great results against bigger teams which included 2 big victories in El Clasico against Real Madrid (both La Liga and Spanish Super Cup Final), and even Inter Milan that only conceded a single goal throughout the league phase (the game against Bayer Leverkusen, which was also their only loss so far during that stage).
Last, but not least, unlike the previous seasons, the "draw protection" for both Round of 16 playoff and the actual Round of 16 aren't longer applied anymore so that we could have a rematch of the league phase games or even the game between two teams from the same countries starting from the first knockout rounds. We could have either Madrid or Milan derbies happening in the Round of 16, although UEFA will hold a "separate draw" for the Round of 16 onwards after all of the Round of 16 playoff games were wrapped up. Same goes for an epic Benfica vs Barcelona UCL clash, whose the original encounter in the league phase ended with a 9-goal thriller.
 
Ravager29586 said:
The new knockout stage format of this season's European club competitions is much more exciting than the league phase games.
The possibilities of a big games being happened during the first two rounds of knockout phases are now greater. Manchester City facing Real Madrid in the "new Round of 16 playoff" this season is something weird from this new format, as this is a big game that usually decided the outcome of the competition. The winner of the last 3 seasons of this competition came from this game. But I'm still doubting about chances for either sides, especially given the fact the other big teams are also having such a great form this season, like Liverpool topping both Premier League and Champions League tables, Barcelona having some great results against bigger teams which included 2 big victories in El Clasico against Real Madrid (both La Liga and Spanish Super Cup Final), and even Inter Milan that only conceded a single goal throughout the league phase (the game against Bayer Leverkusen, which was also their only loss so far during that stage).
Last, but not least, unlike the previous seasons, the "draw protection" for both Round of 16 playoff and the actual Round of 16 aren't longer applied anymore so that we could have a rematch of the league phase games or even the game between two teams from the same countries starting from the first knockout rounds. We could have either Madrid or Milan derbies happening in the Round of 16, although UEFA will hold a "separate draw" for the Round of 16 onwards after all of the Round of 16 playoff games were wrapped up. Same goes for an epic Benfica vs Barcelona UCL clash, whose the original encounter in the league phase ended with a 9-goal thriller.
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I dunno man I still prefer it how it used to be. I think they just change stuff for the sake of it. They'll change something else next season just so they can say they've "improved" the competition.
 
I fully agree on the format being shite.
TBH id rather see the old European cup system with only the winners (or perhaps top two team from each league) participating, i know thats a utopia in todays industry, but still
 
rockstrongo said:
I fully agree on the format being shite.
TBH id rather see the old European cup system with only the winners (or perhaps top two team from each league) participating, i know thats a utopia in todays industry, but still
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As a fan id be happy with that but as you said money making business decisions is what controls the game and has done for years now. Guess we're stuck with whatever they decide will maximise revenue
 
PES4eva said:
As a fan id be happy with that but as you said money making business decisions is what controls the game and has done for years now. Guess we're stuck with whatever they decide will maximise revenue
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I'm quite sure we'll see a super league soon, or have the uefa nipped that in the bud with this new system?

Who knows, all I see is smaller countries/leagues not being able to make an upset in the CL anymore, since it's more and more tws the big leagues and their needs to be in the CL every year.

Pretty sure big teams will get a automatic spot even if finishing low in their respective league, all to satisfy them from Uefa
Bleak future mate
 
rockstrongo said:
I fully agree on the format being shite.
TBH id rather see the old European cup system with only the winners (or perhaps top two team from each league) participating, i know thats a utopia in todays industry, but still
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Me too. Reverting the Champions League to the old European Cup system with only the domestic league winners and straight knockout format might be a good solution for saving the future of European Football.

I really hate the presence of group stage and league phase formats. Too many games and players complained a lot about injuries and fixture congestion.

rockstrongo said:
I'm quite sure we'll see a super league soon, or have the uefa nipped that in the bud with this new system?

Who knows, all I see is smaller countries/leagues not being able to make an upset in the CL anymore, since it's more and more tws the big leagues and their needs to be in the CL every year.

Pretty sure big teams will get a automatic spot even if finishing low in their respective league, all to satisfy them from Uefa
Bleak future mate
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The Super League might not help at all. This entirety of world football is literally a joke right now.

UEFA decided to change this competition's format not because of a small competitiveness, but for money. Same goes to FIFA, whose Gianni Infantino's regime saw the World Cup expansion to 48 teams and the new Club World Cup with 32 teams, which led to more games and more risk of player injuries. Not to mention, giving another Arab country with the human right issues to host the World Cup (Saudi Arabia) because they need to reserve the South American countries for the World Cup centenary tournament (along with Spain, Portugal, and Morocco being the main hosts) seems to be a final straw for this "beautiful game" and really put the whole football corruption on its peak.

Of course, with this new format, not only that smaller countries/leagues are struggled to cause an upset in the UCL like what happened to APOEL in the past, but we might not be able to see teams who were relegated from the UCL group stage to win the UEL. Sevilla can only win the UEL if they participated in this competition at the start, not after getting relegated from the UCL. Same goes to Olympiacos winning the UECL the last season after playing in the UEL group stage.
 
Ravager29586 said:
Me too. Reverting the Champions League to the old European Cup system with only the domestic league winners and straight knockout format might be a good solution for saving the future of European Football.

I really hate the presence of group stage and league phase formats. Too many games and players complained a lot about injuries and fixture congestion.


The Super League might not help at all. This entirety of world football is literally a joke right now.

UEFA decided to change this competition's format not because of a small competitiveness, but for money. Same goes to FIFA, whose Gianni Infantino's regime saw the World Cup expansion to 48 teams and the new Club World Cup with 32 teams, which led to more games and more risk of player injuries. Not to mention, giving another Arab country with the human right issues to host the World Cup (Saudi Arabia) because they need to reserve the South American countries for the World Cup centenary tournament (along with Spain, Portugal, and Morocco being the main hosts) seems to be a final straw for this "beautiful game" and really put the whole football corruption on its peak.

Of course, with this new format, not only that smaller countries/leagues are struggled to cause an upset in the UCL like what happened to APOEL in the past, but we might not be able to see teams who were relegated from the UCL group stage to win the UEL. Sevilla can only win the UEL if they participated in this competition at the start, not after getting relegated from the UCL. Same goes to Olympiacos winning the UECL the last season after playing in the UEL group stage.
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Good post , fully agree on your points.
It's just a corrupted shit system now with uefa/FIFA, having countries that should not host the WC hosting it.
Sad world
 
rockstrongo said:
I'm quite sure we'll see a super league soon, or have the uefa nipped that in the bud with this new system?

Who knows, all I see is smaller countries/leagues not being able to make an upset in the CL anymore, since it's more and more tws the big leagues and their needs to be in the CL every year.

Pretty sure big teams will get a automatic spot even if finishing low in their respective league, all to satisfy them from Uefa
Bleak future mate
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I don't know about seeing a super league, I mean they attempted to create that and it crumbled pretty quick. Plus, the premier league is so far ahead financially that I don't think there would be any need for a PL team to join it. I don't think German teams would join because each club is part owned by fans and always having a majority +1 vote on decisions (which is how I think all Clubs around the globe should be owned) I can't discount teams from Spain and Italy though. I'm especially sure the Italian teams (maybe not the fans though) would love to join a super league just to try and generate money to compete with the Premier League.
 
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