That would be a big surprise to Oguchi. :shock:
too many mistakes, or cards he gets because he is 5 times the size of most belgium players....
. This rumor is pretty rampant in the spanish press.. You have seen him play more then i have, so i will trust you, I do think he should go to a lower club...
Campo is Basque? If so.. I never knew.
Yes, he's from San Sebastián in Basque Country; in Spanish is País Vasco or in the native language, Euskadi.
wait now hold on guys, how much have you guys seen him play, plf some of your comments tend to make me beleive you havent seen him all that much. Size wise you gotta be kidding me?!?!?!? 6 feet four inches and 220 pounds?!?!!? Belgiums are typically that big?
I haven't seen him more than a few times. I already mentioned that in my first post about him. And as you know, I have to watch a player a fair few times in full matches before having a relatively full opinion on, so it's not like my mind about him is made up.
Who said they are typically that big?
Sorry can't agree there. (again based on what I have seen from him)
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I haven't seen him more than a few times. I already mentioned that in my first post about him. And as you know, I have to watch a player a fair few times in full matches before having a relatively full opinion on, so it's not like my mind about him is made up.
But surely I'm entitled to already have some opinion of him due to what I have seen.
Who said they are typically that big?
Oguchi is a big man obviously and that's no secret. But you were calling Belgians "Small" and saying he's 5 times as big as them which is just not true. So that's the part I protested against. The fact that he's a big man is fairly obvious.
Sorry can't agree there. (again based on what I have seen from him)
The cards and fouls I've seen him make (some of which has been costly) has been due to poor positioning on the field or a lapse of concentration just like gerd said. And what's more important for a CB than positioning and anticipating the movement of opposing strikers and speed of throughballs, etc.? Arguably that's one of if not THE most important attribute for a good center-back and in that department and intelligence wise overall, Oguchi hasn't impressed me much yet. (Of course that could be due to me not having seen enough of him.
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Carlos Bocanegra, was/is a regular sometimes for Fulham and one of my fav American players.
But I don't need to talk about Fulham's defence. It's in my opinion (as I said even before the season starts), the worst one in prem. Some of the players in there would be lucky to play in starting team of a Championship team (2nd div of England) like Ian Pearce.
Pearce as just one example is probably the worst defender in my opinion in EPL. The guy is just f'n horrible. There isn't a game he plays where he doesn't give away PK's or handle the ball or get sent off. He's got no pace, is kinda fat and is super slow to react. Yet even THIS Guy is regularly featured in Fulham's 1st team in defence!! :rolleyes:
That should tell you all about their defensive qualities and let's not forget many mediocre players like Zesh Rehman and others have played regularly for them over the past few years. So yeah.. I like Carlos and I wish him all the best, but getting a starting place in Fulham is hardly that big of an achievement.
As for Spector, when was he a fixed regular? He's been a backup/rotation player at best. Thankfully for him, he's still young and i personally think he has a lot of potential and can turn out to be quite a nice defender in future years.
And Cory Gibbs? The man was not convincing at Feyenoord so got loaned out to ADO! Now he's at Charlton and I'm not sure how you can call him a regular, because I don't recall seeing him make even one Premier league appearance for them.
Charlton also isn't exactly blessed with great defenders but hell even the people they do have are better or at least marginally more assuring than Gibbs. (El Karkouri, Diawara, Sorondo, Jonathan Fortune, etc.) and maybe that's why they've played more games this season.
thats the only reason those guys have played more games... IMO. I completley disagree, i think gooch could be a regular for the majority of mid level prem teams. And he has already turnend down offers from the exact same teams i have mentionend. Now did you guys happen to watch the USA vs Italy game in the world cup. Gooch made luca toni look like a little boy playing in a mans game. I think alot of european coaches see this as his potential. The offers have been in the press, and the word from gooch as that he is wating for the right one... we shall see, i think his potential far outwieghs his inexperince at the moment.
you can't rely on just one international game to judge a player mate . if we do that Morocco will keep the B team that beated your A team in USA and hopefully madihi (the guy who scored against keller) won't be called any more , he's so far from the needed level :roll: .when i said five times i had a smiley face after it, to indicate i was joking, but it still stand by the fact that he is a massive person. Now on to your comment about spector, he has started the majority of games for West Ham... not sure what your on about there... Cory Gibbs has been hurt
Clearly you have a different perspective of what a real 1st team regular is from me then.
Yeh he's been hurt. So until he gets fit and actually starts becoming a 1st-teamer, we can't call him a regular first choice player like you did.Cory Gibbs has been hurt
Yes, today has been done official his transfer to Real Madrid.
that's what I'm telling you it's just a game and anything can happen . Italy isn't always winning 6 - 0 , they even drawed at home against lithuania for the european qualifier 1 month later .
I have a little bit different definition of 1st teamer . to me a first teamer is the guy who is in the group not necessary on the field . I'd call the guy who is always a starting member a "regular" (if it's the right translation for french "titulaire") .
José Manuel Reina (Liverpool) >>> Valencia
Marco Amelia (Livorno) >>> Liverpool
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