Spanish La Liga Thread

Guilty of card crazy will have to be Valdes showing a yellow followed by a red. The player was clearly frustrated and the match was over. Nonetheless RM deserved the 3pts! for whatever its worth.
 
yeah and I just forgot to say I was really impressed with Modric's performance. he kept calm and collected a la Xabi Alonso whenever he had the ball in the middle and made a very positive display throughout the game. that was surprising to me tbh.

my motm was Varane again as in the previous two Clasicos. :COOL:
 
Agree: no penalty.
Hope these two teams don't play each other in the CL.
In those matches all the worst in football emerges and i also siad this when Barcelona used to win them usually.
 
Well, I think they won't play in CL..I think that ManUtd and especially Milan both had good chances to go through.

As for last sentence, I totally agree with you. All those guys are great footballers (otherwise they wouldn't be playing for RM or Barca) and they all seem to be good guys of the pitch (at least from my point of view). But those games, clasicos as media calls them, are far more than just football match, far more than just rivalry between those two teams. It is always sad to see politics mixed with sport, but here it is more obvious than anywhere else. And because of that instead of seeing best of what football has to offer we get the worst.
 
A lot of good teams in La Liga, in fact. Plenty of quality in the midfield. The problem is the lack of quality in the offensive last third.

By the way, maybe Carlos Vela is playing the Champions League next year while Arsenal isn't? He's a great player and has the underrated talent of making his teammates perform better, just like Griezman.

Besides, the coach Montanier was smart enough to hear what the club and fans wanted and blend it with its personal view of tactics.
 
How good is Isco? My Spanish friends say his 1st touch and dribbling technique is close to the class of Xavi and Iniesta.
 
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How good is Isco? My Spanish friends say his 1st touch and dribbling technique is close to the class of Xavi and Iniesta.
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Not that good, but certainly has the potential to be as good as Silva, Cazorla, Cesc... He lacks regularity and outside of the danger zone he can get a bit useless. If he adresses those 2 points (and he has a lot of time to do so) he can become one of th ekey players for the national tem in 3-4 years.
 
I figured much. He's been getting a lot of hype lately. How much would he go for in the market? 20-30?
 
Isco is the next Iniesta in my opinion.

He's much more like Iniesta than he is like Xavi.

And yes his technique is phenomenal but like Alexis said, he still needs to work on some other areas but at only 20 years old, he has time and probably will turn out to be a very good player.
 
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Isco is the next Iniesta in my opinion.

He's much more like Iniesta than he is like Xavi.

And yes his technique is phenomenal but like Alexis said, he still needs to work on some other areas but at only 20 years old, he has time and probably will turn out to be a very good player.
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Where would you suggest him to go next season, obviously he needs to leave Malaga to progress.
 
Malaga is a good fit for him, so he coild stay one more season there, but probably being out of the champions league next season could force him to move. Personally I think he needs to play in Spain a bit more. Atletico would be great for him, plenty of minutes and a competitive team.
 
A player like Isco can overcome a year without CL.
Malaga have a fine team.

IMO he could end up at Bayern Munchen...that would be a great club for him. But i would like to see him play for a "lesser" club like Atletico.
 
I don't think he needs to move just yet.

He's very young and with departure of guys like Cazorla, he's getting some very valuable playing time and is an important part of a good team with less pressure.

I think it's best for him if he stays for at least another season and that's what I'd do if I were him. If he does move, I wouldn't move out of Spain just yet. It's hard for young players to adapt to new culture, language and surroundings. Atletico would be a much better choice than moving abroad imo but hopefully he won't move just yet anyway. He's very comfortable and confident at Malaga and growing day by day; no reason to move just yet.
 
good point, PLF.

also betis are gettin' dicked in the seville derby and some of their fans are leaving already lol. their gk is a bit shit though.

:lol they got 1 back, real saucy chip over the gk
 
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two goals from a spectacular free kick and a powerful header, plus a nice assist to higuain. cristiano ronaldo aka mr. everything was at it again tonight. #respect
 
You can like him or hate him, but anyone with a bit of knowledge about football has to pay respect to Ronaldo, he's one of the most outstanding players in the history of the sport.

Same goes for Messi, btw.
 
I respect CR for his drive, determination and what he's done on the field of play. I don't think anyone expected him to be this good. He wasn't massively regarded like Messi. Moreover, Messi looks the same physically as when he first started so you can tell he's a natural while CR had to train a lot to reach this level. We shouldn't criticize if he continues to come second to Messi. He gave it the best that he's got.
 
as much as I admire Messi's game, I wouldn't simply dismiss the claims about that the HGH therapy he took in his teenage years to cure his illness then might have had some extra effect on what has he become today. I mean.. his foot/leg coordination, reflexes, response times are just looking superhumanly sometimes. well, I'm just not saying that he's doped up (there is just no proof of that anyway) but, I doubt that he's as completely natural as people think him to be either. for now, I have nothing but a big admiration for his game of course.
 
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as much as I admire Messi's game, I wouldn't simply dismiss the claims about that the HGH therapy he took in his teenage years to cure his illness then might have had some extra effect on what has he become today. I mean.. his foot/leg coordination, reflexes, response times are just looking superhumanly sometimes. well, I'm just not saying that he's doped up (there is just no proof of that anyway) but, I doubt that he's as completely natural as people think him to be either. for now, I have nothing but a big admiration for his game of course.
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With all due respect (and that is quite a lot, although we've had our differences), you try to be as objective as possible, but just like i'm not the biggest Real Madrid fan, you are not exactly the biggest Barcelona fan. In (virtually ???) all the discussions here about Barcelona-Real Madrid, you take the Madrid side (whereas i will often take the Barcelone side).

It might be that Messi's treatment has made him better, but what about the Fuentes case and the fact that Fuentes has hinted at Real Madrid as being among his customers. It might be that Fuentes is playing games (personally i think he is), but it might also be that he's telling the truth. Let's not speculate.I only write this paragraph to demonstrate the way you are reasoning here, and IMHO that is a mistake.

I used to be a big cycling fan and now i'm fed up with that sports because of all the performance enhancing drugs and the fact that not a single outstanding performance is credible. In football we don't have that problem because it seems there are less players who are caught out using drugs (but there are less tests than in cycling)...and that is a good thing. So let's not speculate and enjoy good performances by whatever team and player.

Football is less physical and more about skills than cycling or athleticism (track and field), maybe i'm naïve but i don't think medical treatment can enhance skills, not those of Ronaldo, not those of Messi not of any other player.

I do agree with you and others about the fact that Ronaldo is underestimated and i also think he's a much nicer person than most people (including me until recent past) think he is.

No hard feelings.
 
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gerd said:
With all due respect (and that is quite a lot, although we've had our differences), you try to be as objective as possible, but just like i'm not the biggest Real Madrid fan, you are not exactly the biggest Barcelona fan. In (virtually ???) all the discussions here about Barcelona-Real Madrid, you take the Madrid side (whereas i will often take the Barcelone side).

It might be that Messi's treatment has made him better, but what about the Fuentes case and the fact that Fuentes has hinted at Real Madrid as being among his customers. It might be that Fuentes is playing games (personally i think he is), but it might also be that he's telling the truth. Let's not speculate.I only write this paragraph to demonstrate the way you are reasoning here, and IMHO that is a mistake.

I used to be a big cycling fan and now i'm fed up with that sports because of all the performance enhancing drugs and the fact that not a single outstanding performance is credible. In football we don't have that problem because it seems there are less players who are caught out using drugs (but there are less tests than in cycling)...and that is a good thing. So let's not speculate and enjoy good performances by whatever team and player.

Football is less physical and more about skills than cycling or athleticism (track and field), maybe i'm naïve but i don't think medical treatment can enhance skills, not those of Ronaldo, not those of Messi not of any other player.

I do agree with you and others about the fact that Ronaldo is underestimated and i also think he's a much nicer person than most people (including me until recent past) think he is.

No hard feelings.
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gerd you bring up a good point, especially about athleticism in football. But I think it is valid when comparing ronaldo vs messi, ronaldo to me seems to be a pure athletic specimen.. his pace, strength, jumping ability, quickness, hand eye coordination is UNREAL. Messi's skill ball control, passing ability, agility whilst dribbling, all of those things are amazing, but the difference in the two is stark in terms of athelticism. So if anyone is to think somone is doped up, I would think it would be ronnie... messi talents seem more with skill(althought the little guy is quick as can be) I would bet that in a pure atheltic competition between the two, ronaldo when win all tests... sprint, jumping ability, agility, etc..

but messi would of course beat %98 of all footballers in the same competition
 
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as much as I admire Messi's game, I wouldn't simply dismiss the claims about that the HGH therapy he took in his teenage years to cure his illness then might have had some extra effect on what has he become today. I mean.. his foot/leg coordination, reflexes, response times are just looking superhumanly sometimes. well, I'm just not saying that he's doped up (there is just no proof of that anyway) but, I doubt that he's as completely natural as people think him to be either. for now, I have nothing but a big admiration for his game of course.
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na mate, the only extra effect the GH injections can give you is strength, but it's not really an advantage because he is only using it to level himself with others who do not have growth hormone deficiency. i'm not sure if Messi still has the GH injections. it is possible to still have the GH injections even though you have completed growing depending on how severe he has GHD.
 
Messi did have some physical problems (injuries) in his early years. I'm not sure if GH contributed to it. I'm no expert. Thankfully, Barca fixed the problem. Maybe they redid is training regimen and eating habits/diet.
 
Messi n Ronnie are mentally superior to others. I do think the sort of training can improve your game. I used to lift weights for muscle build and I started a new workout from some Belgium bloke stronglift 5x5 . I'm a totally different person through his methods. I build muscle through strength and the concept is mental . I workout less and I can balance like I never could before. So, I think whatever Messi n Ronnie does off the pitch matters on the pitch.

I use to load up on GNC stuff , I'm stronger n tighter w/o any supplements :) . Supplements in the end has a negative long term effects. Eat fruits n food that has all what viatamin offer.
 
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