Spanish La Liga Thread

ugly game now at Sevilla. Lots of ugly moves that have no place in football. Sevilla players are provoking and RM players are easy to be provoked...not a good combination really
 
From someone who doesn't really like Barcelona game style (I only support Montpellier remember :D) :

WHAT A GAME !

I rarely watch La Liga games but when I do the last 25-30 minutes are enormous !
What a performance from Granada goal keeper and Nyom but what a goal from Xavi !
Barcelona dominated the game undoubtedly but still the own goal was a bit harsh :\
(Nice performance by my Moroccan fellow El Arabi who gave 2 kill passes which can gave Granada the win)
 
Messi was livid with Villa for not passing the ball. You don`t see all the time. Villa must of been, did he forget I`m a natural ST :LOL: .Matches vs. Barca will always lead to good GK for the opposing team.It just.... 30 shots w/ 20 saves and 3 goals make ya look pretty good.
 
bebo said:
Messi was livid with Villa for not passing the ball. You don`t see all the time. Villa must of been, did he forget I`m a natural ST :LOL: .Matches vs. Barca will always lead to good GK for the opposing team.It just.... 30 shots w/ 20 saves and 3 goals make ya look pretty good.
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Agree + you could have seen the frustration when Villa didn't pass the ball at first :D
 
Spain it's in its way to be a 3rd world country, but these things have always happened, there's a statement "typical spanish" that fits perfectly with this kind of situation. But that's what you get in a country with very little passion for culture and the smallest investment in schools. A country where bricks have been more important than books for the last 25 years...
 
drekkard said:
Spain it's in its way to be a 3rd world country, but these things have always happened, there's a statement "typical spanish" that fits perfectly with this kind of situation. But that's what you get in a country with very little passion for culture and the smallest investment in schools. A country where bricks have been more important than books for the last 25 years...
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Well...just need more airports and less trains and telephone services has improved.
 
please don't tell me that was a fair game in Sevilla ..
Bitchelona is the most assisted team by refferees I have ever seen, even more than MU and Juve ..
this season they play like shit, they are so weak, but they have won all their games, what un unfair game ..
 
jihado86 said:
please don't tell me that was a fair game in Sevilla ..
Bitchelona is the most assisted team by refferees I have ever seen, even more than MU and Juve ..
this season they play like shit, they are so weak, but they have won all their games, what un unfair game ..
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You sir, are not brightest person on this forum (with all respect).
Did you forget how Real Madrid overcame their financial troubles?

Both Barcelona and Real Madrid are hugely advantaged by the division of the television money in both Spain and Europe. Fas of Real Madrid have no right to complain about 'unfair treatment', as they are the prime example of clubs that have unfair advantages.

In a fair competition, the fact that Real Madrid lost quite a lot of points would not matter as much as in this Spanish Liga. Clubs like Madrid or Barcelona are well aware of the fact that they need to have a perfect record against the other clubs because the difference between them and the other clubs. Just face the reality, Real Madrid have fucked up and blaming the referees is merely damage control.

In a couple of years Real Madrid and Barcelona migth be like Celtic and Rangers a couple of years ago, and 5 years later they might well be like Rangers at the moment.

Their unfair advantage in the long term will hurt them massively.
 
The funny thing is that the referees appear to be "bought" by barcelona only when madrid is behind in the table, last year this same referee had very dubious performances helping Madrid in key matches.

Look kid, madrid and barcelona have an incredible advantage over threst financially, as gerd notes, but also referees are afraid to fail with the big ones. If you need to mask madrid failures with this, you are only kidding yourself.

The match yesterday was epic, both teams used their weapons and it was a delight to see them fight and run for each ball. Overall barça had more chances on goal and the determination in the last 30 minutes was key, as well as Cesc who played his best 45 minutes so far.

About medel red card, he could have easily been shown the second yellow in the first half when he held messi in two goal chances, but we all know that Mateu Lahoz likes to let players do. And it is Medel's fault if he does an aggression on Cesc. Blame the player there. A pitty that this conditioned what has been the best match so far in La liga.

Messi had his worst match so far, he only did 2 assists :)
 
i don't know if you've seen the match last night gerd but refereeing surely helped barcelona flip the table on the sevillans.

and about Medel's red card if that's not the result of Cesc simulating i don't what it is anymore

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq1H-EytJuU

Same as well for the second goal where Thiago clearly touched the ball with his hand

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with all this being said, bear in mind i'm just a neutral witness if i might say that, in fact i do hate Barcelona but one have to be open minded about certain things, this being one of them.

I felt so frustrated last night, Sevilla where playing so good then after Cesc goal & incident everything changed for the worst.

I saw drekkard commenting how good they were the last 3O minutes, i couldn't help wonder how a playing against 10 men is that difficult? Let alone 10 men without a coach!
 
Playing against 10 men is oftern harder than against 11.
And i wasn't talking about the match against Sevilla, i was talking about the unfair advantages both Barcelona and Real Madrid have gotten over the past years...
 
crazy match ! Seville lost the focus at the very end. Don`t fool yourself the Spanish League is over n done and dusted! Its players accolades that are being played n a few cup tourneys :LOL:
 
I enjoyed the game, Thiago's handball should have been penalised but Barca didn't deserve to lose, I think a draw would have been a fair result.

Not bad when you can bring David Villa off the bench.
 
@amineken
every player who joins those pussies team became a cunt ..
even Mascherano who was a MAN in Liverpool and West Ham ..
and am sad about Wenger who raised that cunt Fabregas with real football values, to see him make that shit ..
barcelona is a band of hypocrites, they make the dirtiest stuff in football and then appear as angels ..
 
Excellent game to watch, although do admit that the ref did make some bad calls.

I think Cesc over-reacted, but the player did put his head forward to his face so your always asking for trouble.

Soggy Biscuits should have been sent off I feel though and yes it was a handball.


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The thing is every team knows this when they are playing Barcelona. They dive, they "earn" penalties, they "earn" red cards for the opposition. While I have sympathy for Medel, he must have known that the first thing you associate with Barca is theatrics and overreaction, so a Barcelona player was bound to fake such an action it's their modus operandi.

It's a shame that Barcelona are dragging football this way - for all the obsequious journalism from sycophants like Graham C.Hunter, Sid Lowe et al, talking about how this team is the "greatest ever" (surely now disproved by their inability to beat Chelsea and Inter - both down to ten for vast sections of their matches by the way) they rarely seem to mention the ugly side to the Catalans game.
 
Out of curiosity Edmundo, what is the best team ever according to you (don't think about it, just answer on first impulse).

Mine:

national team: Brazil 1970
Club team: Crvena Zvezda (Red Star Belgrade) with Prosinecki, Savicevic e.a.

Current Barcelona isn't far away. Don't forget that each really bitg team has had a cynical/ugly side (remember Ajax with Suurbier and Neeskens).
 
That Red Star team as a club team is certainly the best one I've seen in a real-time environment, or in my lifetime so to speak. In terms of club teams there is also, in my opinion, a case for maybe the Milan team of the late 1980s early 1990s (the last team to retain the European Cup / Champions League) and possibly the Bayern and Ajax teams that won three in a row each in the early 1970s. There was a River Plate team in the early 1940s called "the Machine" (La Miquina), they won a lot of Argentine Leagues (at a time when it could be considered one of the hardest leagues in the world) - they didnt win any continental trophies because the Libertadores wasnt foudned for another 20 years (1960). There was a South American Champions Cup (called the Campeonato Sudamericano de Campeones) arranged as a one off in 1948, but the River team was too old then, about 5 years past its prime, they were playing with 38-42 year olds and they came second. That River team of say 1938-1943 would be amongst the strongest club ever, but obviously it's hard to judge it on the international stage.

Every team does have an "ugly" side, and some of those teams played football that wasnt perhaps that astectically good. But I dont consider this Barcelona team to be "the greatest ever", simply because there now appears to be a distinct way to beat them, an achilles heel, a way of unbinding the Gordian Knot so to speak. Last season we saw Milan pretty much nullify them as an attacking threat for much of the two legs, Chelsea went further and schackled them with additionally being able to score goals themselves on the counter attack, and playing a huge part of the second leg with only 10 men. It's not really anthing vastly new either, the blueprint was set up by Berdiwyev's Rubin back in 2009. They dont really have a plan B and so if you can pack the midfield, if you play a massivly defensive formation, you can stifle them and they will struggle to play a more direct style of football.

If you look at the other teams mentioned, teams like Red Star and River, and the Milan team. These teams could really adapt their type of play. The best example is Red Star, playing scintillating football against Bayern in the semis, before grinding out the 0-0 and winning on penalties vs Marseille. It mightnt have been great to watch but Red Star knew that this was probably their only chance of winning the European Cup, by Summer 1991 the writing was on the wall for the Yugoslavian Federation, everyone knew the country, the leagues and all the teams would split and they would never again be able to challenge at the top of European football. The pressure on one match became too much and instead of playing free flowing football under the arches of the San Nicola in Bari, Petrovic told them to stagnate the match and make sure they didnt lose. Similarly the Milan team of the late 1980s and early 1990s were famous for having a tight defence, they were reknowned for "grinding out results". Yet this wasnt some robotic lumbering team. There were quick attacking skillfull players like Donadoni, Costacurta, Tassotti, players who could switch from systematic defence to lightening quick attack at a moments notice. Also at the heart of this team you had the three Dutch players (Gullit, Rijkaard and Van Basten) again players who could adhere to defensive systems but also provide wonderfull attacking outlets. Especially Van Basten, probably the finest Dutch striker in the last 30 or so years and one that was cruelly blighted by injury. With this sort of squad Milan could play both the defensively organised game they were noted for (beating teams like Mechelen*, Bayern and Bayern by single goals) and also switch to the dynamic attacking play when needed, putting 5 past Real in the second leg in 1989 having drawn 1-1 in Madrid. I dont see an ability to switch styles in that way in this Barcelona team.


* Who were then a very good side
 
What a good post Edmundo.
I completely agree. I was also thinking about Milan at the end of the 80's and La Maquina. Problem is that i never saw La Maquina. I once read an article about a journalist who asked wh owas the best Argentinian player ever: Maradonna or Messi. Quite a few of the people who were consulted opted for one particluar player of that River Plate team but also indicated that some of his team mates were also among the best ever Argentinian players.

And then there was the Rapid Wien team with Matthias Sindelar.

But i agree with you on Red Star. What a shame that this team could not stay together...
 
In my opinion it is very hard to compare teams like current Barcelona and older teams because football is so different. You could say that: the opposition wasn't as good back then or the other way around.
 
agree with Edmundo. Van Basten's era Milan was THE best team i ever saw not only for the Legends which composed the team, not even for their versatile football. The thing is Milan at that point wasn't really depending of Marco like most big teams are to some players, they surely proved that at the biggest match of them all: UCL final and against Barcelona's own "Dream Team".

Such a shame i was never lucky to be born in that era :(
 
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