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Schmidt13 said:
BTW the clubs licensed on pes2010 as confirmed by Caniggia are:
*Aberdeen
*Hearts
*Aris Thessaloniki??
*Braga

Don't know if thats just their stadiums or their clubs entirity but still looking strong that many teams will be included in the europa license!
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Now if they can bring back my beloved panning camera angles, I think I'll be happy to return home to the Pro Evo fold.

I haven't heard anything about them being back, so I'll not hold my breath.
 
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brunnoce said:
It better be good, so JUCE can come back doing his MAGIC
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You said it definetly hope he works his magic 1 more time also I hope the game is good cuz i need his help in putting in the PC version something I have been working on for 2 months for devoted Madrid Fans
 
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what happened to ronaldhino 32, did they get to him with the poisened frosties? i asked him a question ages ago!
 
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Gab_ said:
I wish the manual passes point on the fake list was correct, but Caniggia said manual passes are only on the right stick again :(
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What?? aw man I hope thats not correct, right stick that is so stupid if true I hope that the Manual passing is programmed to buttons right stick is so freakin dumb if not implemented:CONFUSE: Maybe its just not in this build yet????
 
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bonyi said:
On the top of my wishlist from the fake news:

Manual passing now has an option to be used on the X/A button instead of the right analog stick.
- Due to the game incorporating 360 degree control the analog stick will be the only option of player movement. The new advanced on-the-fly tactics system will now be done on the d-pad. One of the biggest changes to the game ever.
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Can we get official confirmation if Manual Passing is button oriented? b/c I feel its the only way it works, not the right stick garbage
 
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i have to wait until wednsday to see the whole thing
70 % of the game is okay to judge the game
and am wating to be confirmed with the futures that R23 told abt edit nets and edit boots
 
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Right can someone answer something for me as I seem to be confused. Is the 360 news talking about 360 passing/shooting or is it 360 Dribbling? I ask this because initially I thought it was Dribbling but Konami released this statement

PES 2010: 360 Degree Movement and Other Features Confirmed

360-degree control will be available on both the PLAYSTATION®3, Xbox 360 and PC-DVD versions of the game via the analogue sticks on the respective controllers. The system will allow players to "spread" the ball with ease, opening up new attacking and defensive possibilities. PLAYSTATION®3 owners will also benefit when using the Dual Shock’s D-Pad, but Xbox 360 and Win D-Pads are limited to eight-directional control due to technical limitations of the hardware
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Know Ive highlighted that bit and reading that tells me its Passing and Shooting? "Spread" is another word for passing?
 
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sgmullins said:
How come you have not mentioned pes 2010 having 360 degree movement ?.
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:SHOCK: Mate for days and days people have been on about it.Will it/wont it be in the final build?,this year it seems to be the one standout piece of info that reputation proceded before fact.I think maybe thats why nobodys following and talking about it much now. ;)


Edit methinks i have now jumped the gun lol @youngGun uk yeah m8 judging by what you have highlighted it sounds like passing could well be included. :PRAY:
 
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:ROCK:Hello, already I am in europa, it has been a very long and exhausting trip..

I see that there are many news and new images, but it is not compared at all by the gamescom

I must say that I do not devote myself to do reviews, therefore I do not devote myself to look exhaustively at a game, therefore, when they gave to me the opportunity to prove the last code, I went to play directly, I do not have the certainty of all the teams, all the stadiums, you license all those .. only it was important for me to play
You had done the same thing.

Obviously after a few minutes of game, I wanted to look above at the edit mode.

They are not big changes, but if there is editor of boots, can be imported jpg's.. to add many canticles

The election of the nets is realized before a friendly match, you choose field, type of netball, time, good already knows
Only there are 2 kits for team not interchangeable, but very detailed.

I select fc.barcelona, :ROCK:, vs Real Madrid.
Stadium Bernabeu (2-6 xD)
I use neither letters nor any strategy, this one for fault.
It becomes strange to play with 360 º and the d-pad, decide to use analog, better.

Ball for xavi, and instinctively D.alves crosses the whole band, messi goes away towards the center,Alves centres and ibrahimovic finishes off very forced by the defenders.

well, the games is this way, everything is fluid, the players seem to obey the personal strategies of every club.

The nets answer fantasticly to the goals, it gives very good sensations.
At the moment all the gloves are black. :CONFUSE:

There are many stadiums, i did not see all, i want to play, alone it matters for me to play and to feel

There is no famous music, not bundesliga.

This it is my short but good relation with pes2010.

Certainly, FCB 2-1 RM (Toure-Ibra, Raul)

I move back to rest
 
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Well reading that statement Kouroux maybe its 360 passing and shooting they've added and NOT 360 dribbling?
 
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Thankyou ronaldinho you have been very helpful.Here is a virtual pint from me. :BEER:
 
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YoungGun_UK said:
Well reading that statement Kouroux maybe its 360 passing and shooting they've added and NOT 360 dribbling?
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Well does it make a difference ? The D-pad is just a cross, how can you have 360° on it for passing and shooting ?
 
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kouroux said:
Well does it make a difference ? The D-pad is just a cross, how can you have 360° on it for passing and shooting ?
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Because the ball would still be "free". Assisted passing as it is now in PES is where the ball is directed straight to the player. Using the D-Pad for manual would still be manual as it would make the ball travel in the line of were you pressed down or left on the D Pad
 
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Did they not mention the rails sensation being gone? Surely that would be down to 360 movement, no?
 
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YoungGun_UK said:
Because the ball would still be "free". Assisted passing as it is now in PES is where the ball is directed straight to the player. Using the D-Pad for manual would still be manual as it would make the ball travel in the line of were you pressed down or left on the D Pad
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Therefore the 360° have nothing to do with the D-pad.D-pad is just a straight pass and the different possible direction will come from the angles created by using the LAS.Still something wrong about the way they described it
 
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YoungGun_UK said:
Well reading that statement Kouroux maybe its 360 passing and shooting they've added and NOT 360 dribbling?
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It was said that 360 is for movement, passes aren't but Ronaldinho said before they feel less stuck to the trails. Ronaldinho, can you post the above stuff in spanish too? Your english isn't the best, I would get it better in spanish :P
 
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kouroux said:
Therefore the 360° have nothing to do with the D-pad.D-pad is just a straight pass and the different possible direction will come from the angles created by using the LAS.Still something wrong about the way they described it
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I've been reading that PS3 D-pad is pressure sensitive, thats probably why you can use 360 on D-PAD, but it probably makes fingers hurt alot :P
 
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damn Touré scorred xD thanks Ronaldinho for the heads up, all black goalkeeper gloves :CONFUSE: guess they need to be implented yet the licensed ones.
 
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_anderson said:
I've been reading that PS3 D-pad is pressure sensitive, thats probably why you can use 360 on D-PAD, but it probably makes fingers hurt alot :P
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Thank you, it does bring some explanation to my question.I doubt it that it'd feel more comfortable than using the LAS but it's still a good option for those who will still wanna play with their d-pads
 
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Hi just thought i would post this review from ga,One of the best i have read so far........


PES 2010 official preview


Tell you what Jon, it's that time of the year again. Yup, Konami have released the latest code of PES2010 to the press, and here at the bright lights of PESFan towers we've managed to get our grubby little mitts on it for your benefit. Oh happy days.

As always when trying a new build of PES for the first time, I headed straight for Exhibition mode. What better way to test the ins and outs of a new code than by reliving that most classic of world football matches - West Midlands Village vs. East London.

The first thing that struck me about the game was just how hard it was to run with the ball now. Granted, every time I play a new version of PES there's always that little adjustment period, but I was completely beyond all redemption. Every time I tried to dribble around a player I came unstuck, it seemed almost impossible. Even faster members of the squad like Ashley Young could only run a finite amount before being thwarted by a member of the Hammers defence. Before I knew it, I was a goal down inside 10 minutes. What on earth was I doing wrong?

Several games later - it hit me.

I was playing PES like I always had. A general rule of thumb I'd previously employed was a few long passes to a member of my team on the wings, sprint for a while, cut in and shoot. Probably about three or four passes in total from receiving the ball. This sort of thinking failed me utterly in PES2010.

As soon as I realised what I was doing wrong and started to actually pass the ball around, the game opened itself up to me. It felt more realistic, goals actually took'effort. There was no bolting around seven men and planting the ball easily in the corner of the net, these were worked build ups and felt genuinely satisfying.

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Mind you, I was hardly playing with world-beaters (Steve Sidwell excluded), so next on the agenda was Barcelona vs. Manchester United. As you would expect with a higher quality team, it was easier, but the dynamics were still the same. Even Messi wasn't able to just buzz past players like he was some sort of mutant fly.

One of the reasons for this is that changing direction at speed is no longer painfully easy. The new turning animations ensure that the pace of the game slows down when trying to dodge past a defender, and although this movement feels unnatural and weird at first, when it clicks - it really clicks. It's something I ended up missing when going back to an earlier version of PES. Although you can still gradually change your direction while running with the ball, 2010 made me want to cut down on the easy ninety-degree turns I'd got so accustomed to, instead opting to pass.

The AI also seems to play a part, with both your team and the opposition providing much sterner challenges to work around. From personal experience, it felt the AI was far more competent at covering gaps in its defence, and would eagerly close me down at the earliest point. Goalkeepers too seem to be more skilled, and in my opinion managed to position themselves and cover goal much more successfully than before. There was still the occasional unwelcome spill or unnaturally acrobatic mega-save, but overall I felt they were a definite advancement.

The new Cards and Team Style systems are an interesting addition, and I found combining them both results in quite a variety of games panning out. The changes are subtle, but they are there, and I'll be curious to see how people use them differently as time goes on. One point of note was that I could only find twenty-one different cards (with two even being allocated for goalkeepers), but I should mention this was only by investigation of Master League at the start of the game, so don't quote me on it.

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Penalties are another area in which Konami has tweaked for 2010, with the idea being that how you take a pen now lies in a) how much power you give the ball and b) which direction and how much or how little you point the analogue stick. However as of writing this the system seems to be either too sensitive, resulting in penalty after penalty being blasted miles high and wide, or not quite finished yet. Out of about twenty penalties taken I only managed to score two using the new system, although this may just be down to my lack of skill. I actually found it was a more successful tactic to press no buttons at all, as after a time the computer automatically takes one for you and usually scores with a minimal of fuss.

The animations show real promise at this stage, and are already a step above previous instalments. Even with a fair percentage of them yet to be included, they still look fantastic, smooth and as genuine as I've seen in a PES game. Injured players even hobble around the pitch when they aren't being called into action.

I regret to inform I'm not able to comment on the game's new 360 degree movement control, as this is a feature that has yet to be implemented in the current build. However as of the latest Konami press release, we're informed that this will end up on the Playstation 3, Xbox 360 and PC versions of the game when it goes to retail.

It's worth mentioning that the overall presentation is a big step-up, even in this preview build. The early lighting effects look brilliant, the menus feel slick and player faces have seen a ridiculous level of improvement. Having said that, some lesser known players from smaller clubs can still resemble beings from an alien world, but for the most part even they looked more like their real-life counterparts than in 2009. I think it's safe to assume the player faces are still a work in progress, you can tell that a lot of the teams in the game haven't been properly dealt with yet, so hopefully it's still on the to-do list of Konami's efforts.

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Areas of the audio have also been tweaked. It was great hearing my fans jeer the visiting team if they had too much possession of the ball. Jon Champion and Mark Lawrenson return to their seats as commentator and co-commentator respectively, with Lawro continuing in his tradition of making sarcastic comments at me when I'm at my lowest. The overall commentary doesn't seem noticeably different at this point, but it's difficult to say at what stage in 2010's development any new lines would be included.

Master League on the other hand has evolved considerably and now includes proper team budgets, coaches, athletic trainers scouts, youth teams and more. You can change the way the league is organised; do you want it to be structured by goal difference after points or head-to-head results? It's up to you. There are some interesting improvements, and I'll be discussing these in much more detail in a special Master League report tomorrow.

Unfortunately the much maligned Become A Legend has not seen a similar overhaul. Apart from the general gameplay improvements implemented in PES2010, the mode itself hasn't changed noticeably, which I found a bit troubling. I can only hope that BAL is scheduled to be upgraded closer to release date, because in my opinion it's something that showed a lot of potential when it debuted in 2009.

Overall, I think 2010 is showing a lot of promise. but is PES2010 a return to form? Personally I think it could be. On the other hand, in the same way beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, playability is in the eyes of the player. But for my money, it already presents a good, solid game of football, with only minor glitches preventing it from being the best I've played in a long, long time. With Konami really under the spotlight to make this year's PES the best ever, I've no doubt most of these will be ironed out in the coming weeks.


Note: As this preview is based on the Xbox 360 current code only, information may well change before the final release.
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