Pleased to hear it. Does that mean you have gotten used to the graphics on PS2?
I have adjusted Heading by +5 as i thought the heading is a bit underpowered. Let me know if you want me to upload my OF? So you can get a head start.
That’s good news
I really think you should give PES2008 a go with the adjusted stats and see if you like it before deciding. I am seeing so many good things in 2008.
Did you watch that clip from my last game, Bolton v Leeds? The build up to that equalising goal was amazing the way the ball was pinging in and around the penalty box until Noone kept his cool. The thing is, is that watching the video doesn’t help you to feel the tension in that piece of play. Not just from my team but the CPU too. The crowd were almost ‘oohing’.
I love the way the CPU will also hack you down sometimes when you win the ball off of it. Also the variety in shots from the CPU. I played a game today, the CPU had three ‘one on ones’. The first it tried to chip the keeper but it went wide, the second it shot with power straight at the keeper, the third it took round the keeper. I don’t think that happens in the new FIFA or PES, not with such variety. That is what keeps me hooked in this game is the way each match is different.
Admittedly there is no team identity but I don’t care when I get such a good feeling from scoring either me or the CPU. Also, I hit the post twice today in one match but I know that may not happen for a random amount of games. In FIFA that happens a lot, it’s as if it is scripted to add to the excitement. But in 2008, it happens because...it just happens (can’t explain it any better). So when it happens in 2008 I jump out my seat but in FIFA I think ‘oh the post again’. (Sorry this isn’t a dig at FIFA but both new games in general).
Here are all 24 goals from Matchday 1...tell me what ones you like best.
In the future I will play all the Matchday games before uploading them.
Yeah it's awesome, in my opinion just re-releasing and improving this base game would be far better and more enjoyable than PES or FIFA 18
This game is almost 10 years old!
Played a few matches and this game really seems legit! geeeeee how do you come up with this stuff?
AI is much better at dribbling/passing/finishing. It's actually good in attack. wtf?
I played a WC with Italy on Professional/default OF and got kicked out in the group stages as I failed to score against Sweden & ivory Coast. An issue I had was that midfielders didn't track back well enough and too often left the backline on an island with strikers running at them. This was true for me as Italy as well as AI Austria & Sweden, yet curiously Ivory Coast played two DMs and didn't have that problem. Looking at Italy in the editor I saw they have Pressure at C which is a big no-no in WE9. I hope this or other tactical stuff is at fault which would mean it can be fixed. I'd hate for the game to have hard-coded 'soft' midfields like PES13 (iirc).
Ball control and passing feel much better, those were a major source of frustration in WE9. Unfortunately dribbling seems overpowered. Players were way too fast but your edits mostly fixed that (nice!). I played a match with Argentina after doing your edits and Messi was just ridiculous, leaving defenders for dead even better than Baumgartlinger in your 1st video, Zambrotta may still be spinning around. Messi was a great dribbler then and has great stats but I'm doubtful he should be THIS good. On the other hand, Italy fielded a diamond so he had a vast amount of space on the wing. In the next game with Japan (extremely fun team) vs Spain I couldn't dribble past multiple defenders with anyone which seemed nice but I could pass through their midfield like nothing which again is Japan's strength though.
PES5/WE9/WE9LE were great defensively despite lacking defensive organization. Players were unrealistically quick off the mark to close down the ball (as is the case with all PS2 gen games, 2008 too) and everyone had Cambiasso's standing tackle accuracy. If a defender was near you and you weren't shielding the ball with your body... poof it was gone. In 2008 it's much easier for human & AI to evade defenders due to much improved agility with the ball and much weaker but still functional tackling. Point is super human tackling used to mask the defensive issues in the game, now it's gone and defense (+ defensive midfield) feels too soft for me. I'll throw together a pressing tactic and see if that fixes it.
This game is fun to just pick up & play, even if doesn't run perfectly smooth on PCSX2 yet. I already uninstalled PES17
Any plans to release/share your OF (or linking another one)? I saw you using modern players and mentioning psd stats and now I feel all the envy. This game looks so good, I could most likely provide some tactics. Would have to adjust my understanding to the weaker tackling/better dribbling thing though.
I only skimmed through this thread a bit so far, will read more when I find the time.
I mean here I was feeling disillusioned about not having a fun football sim to play anymore and then I log in here and see this
thanks man
edit: what exactly was the reason for the stamina increase?
! How did you manage to play this game on emulator ? For me it was always stuttering and with weird graphical glitches.Played a few matches and this game really seems legit! geeeeee how do you come up with this stuff?
AI is much better at dribbling/passing/finishing. It's actually good in attack. wtf?
I played a WC with Italy on Professional/default OF and got kicked out in the group stages as I failed to score against Sweden & ivory Coast. An issue I had was that midfielders didn't track back well enough and too often left the backline on an island with strikers running at them. This was true for me as Italy as well as AI Austria & Sweden, yet curiously Ivory Coast played two DMs and didn't have that problem. Looking at Italy in the editor I saw they have Pressure at C which is a big no-no in WE9. I hope this or other tactical stuff is at fault which would mean it can be fixed. I'd hate for the game to have hard-coded 'soft' midfields like PES13 (iirc).
Ball control and passing feel much better, those were a major source of frustration in WE9. Unfortunately dribbling seems overpowered. Players were way too fast but your edits mostly fixed that (nice!). I played a match with Argentina after doing your edits and Messi was just ridiculous, leaving defenders for dead even better than Baumgartlinger in your 1st video, Zambrotta may still be spinning around. Messi was a great dribbler then and has great stats but I'm doubtful he should be THIS good. On the other hand, Italy fielded a diamond so he had a vast amount of space on the wing. In the next game with Japan (extremely fun team) vs Spain I couldn't dribble past multiple defenders with anyone which seemed nice but I could pass through their midfield like nothing which again is Japan's strength though.
PES5/WE9/WE9LE were great defensively despite lacking defensive organization. Players were unrealistically quick off the mark to close down the ball (as is the case with all PS2 gen games, 2008 too) and everyone had Cambiasso's standing tackle accuracy. If a defender was near you and you weren't shielding the ball with your body... poof it was gone. In 2008 it's much easier for human & AI to evade defenders due to much improved agility with the ball and much weaker but still functional tackling. Point is super human tackling used to mask the defensive issues in the game, now it's gone and defense (+ defensive midfield) feels too soft for me. I'll throw together a pressing tactic and see if that fixes it.
This game is fun to just pick up & play, even if doesn't run perfectly smooth on PCSX2 yet. I already uninstalled PES17
Any plans to release/share your OF (or linking another one)? I saw you using modern players and mentioning psd stats and now I feel all the envy. This game looks so good, I could most likely provide some tactics. Would have to adjust my understanding to the weaker tackling/better dribbling thing though.
I only skimmed through this thread a bit so far, will read more when I find the time.
I mean here I was feeling disillusioned about not having a fun football sim to play anymore and then I log in here and see this
thanks man
edit: what exactly was the reason for the stamina increase?
Nice to see you in this thread, Chenghis. I absolutely loved your tactics for we9le, i'm looking forward for pes 2008 tactics now
Does anyone know how to convert a EU version OF to a US version OF?
they have different editors and seem incompatible to me. The laziale OF you guys posted is EU version and I assume geeeee's OF will be too, yet I liked the US version of the game a bit better in the few games I played. It may have been placebo but the US version was released half a year after the EU one so it's possible they actually improved the game.
it's all geeeee's fault
my game stutters too, but the effect is so minor it doesn't bother me too much (yet). I've only seen some miniscule graphical glitches, I'd say the thing runs fine aside from the models/animations looking like the 'Medium' quality option in the PES5/WE9 settings. I use:
latest svn release of PCSX2 & SSE4 plugin with these settings:
I followed the official (?) guide.
EU game with some kind of widescreen patch looks like this:
I don't know how to make videos.
I already made some quick tactics for
City
Leipzig
Dortmund
Leverkusen 2016
Napoli
Tell me if that formation file works for you guys.
Feedback is welcome, I I feel like I don't really know what I'm doing yet, especially defensively.
Does anyone know how to convert a EU version OF to a US version OF?
they have different editors and seem incompatible to me. The laziale OF you guys posted is EU version and I assume geeeee's OF will be too, yet I liked the US version of the game a bit better in the few games I played. It may have been placebo but the US version was released half a year after the EU one so it's possible they actually improved the game.
it's all geeeee's fault
my game stutters too, but the effect is so minor it doesn't bother me too much (yet). I've only seen some miniscule graphical glitches, I'd say the thing runs fine aside from the models/animations looking like the 'Medium' quality option in the PES5/WE9 settings. I use:
latest svn release of PCSX2 & SSE4 plugin with these settings:
I followed the official (?) guide.
EU game with some kind of widescreen patch looks like this:
I don't know how to make videos.
I already made some quick tactics for
City
Leipzig
Dortmund
Leverkusen 2016
Napoli
Tell me if that formation file works for you guys.
Feedback is welcome, I I feel like I don't really know what I'm doing yet, especially defensively.
Not sure how to do seperate quotes of the same post so i will just reply in one big lump
Thanks for uploading the tactics Chenghis. Sorry if i sound unappreciative but is it possible for you to upload a photo of the formations? As i would prefer to copy them in manually. Otherwise it means swapping over memory cards and havent got that many. Remember i am on PS2. Thanks
Thanks for all the info @Chenghis.Khan
I was actually getting a bit frustrated for the first time yesterday with the dribbling through the centre by the cpu. In my first round of matches in my comp it didnt happen as much but in the second round the cpu is using it about 90% of the time. Im on Top Player so i dropped down to Prof. But the cpu was struggling to hit the target even though its build up play was more varied. So i went back to Top Player.
Im thinking it may be the adaptive cpu ‘knowing’ that it catches me out most times through the middle.
