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Chief Inspector Grobelaar said:
One improvement I'd like to see this time is the commentary name pool. It's been very poor since the change of commentator a few years ago.

Ok, not as important as gameplay and licenses but it's naff as hell playing a Brasilao league with about 2 players on the pitch being called.
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For brazilian players, as the 90% share common names that are present as callnames in database, like Neto, Gabriel, Rodrigo, Fabio, Fabricio, Douglas, Vinicius,Juninho,Danilo etc,etc, you can have almost every player have a commentary callname through "EDIT PLAYER".
I know it sounds like an excuse for developers lazyness but is a really fast fix.
 
janguv said:
They need to combine the pools. A mixture of Jon Champion and Peter Drury will be no more jarring than the current name splicing in sentences...

"SHAWCROSS ... has lost his man there"
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Agree. They need more contextual commentary lines alongside with variety.

Example:
"SHAWCROSS ... has lost LALLANA there"
"DE JONG has escaped from the tight pressure"
"How about it? he got past his man like thunder"
"WILLIAN outrunning DANILO in midfield"

Some of the Spanish commentaries incorporate "player stories" that are unheard of in English commentaries, like talking about Christian Eriksen and comparing him to Rafael van der Vaart and Wesley Sneijder (Spanish Chile). The Argentinian commentators are perhaps the less "robotic" (only behind the Japanese) of all languages, too bad they have few commentary lines.

Keeper names need to be mentioned as often as outfield players (why have so many keeper call-names when they only get mentioned twice in 20 matches?)

Calling players by position should only be done after mentioning their name and perhaps followed by some context: "Nice touch by Modric, one of the world's best midfielders"
 
I remember in an NBA game,not sure if it was 2k or nbalive, the game commentary could spell players with easy last names.I had created two fictional players with last names "Silver" and "Lucas" and the commentator was mentioning them probably cause they are recognisable words for an AI.It was big surprise for me.
Something like this could be added to the current vocal database we have in any new PES.
 
SHF77Y said:
A bit unfair to compare graphics between a basketball game which only has 600-700 players to model, versus a football game with 10,000+
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I agree to you on some extent. More than player's real life likeness, I think the pòster was reffering more to global aspects such as lighting, skin texture, eyes and sweat and that has nothing to do with having 10,000 plus players with real faces.
 
PESBUL said:
The plastic kits.. is not the only problem here... I don't know... we were having a fight on youtube comment section on one of my videos, that one guy says that PES looks so old gen even worst.. this video somehow proves his point... PES look so dated compere with other current game games...
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Maybe they capture it on "low" or "medium "render settings... but... men... it looks bad compared with other AAA games :D
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Sorry, but those two are totally different persons with absolutely different marks.
The left player has a smooth clean skin in real life either (not saying that it´s TOTALLY represented as in real life, but it gets very close).
Surely, NBALIVE looks better, but it´s a whole different skin.

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That would be a better reference...at least when it comes to Becks.
 
had a thought last night...
is there any other sports, besides soccer, where you can touch, deflect, shot, pass or whatever the ball with a part of the body!? i play myself and there is a lot of possibilites to "stear" the ball just with my foot. inside, outside, on top, half side and top, heel... and then i can decide how much power i put into the shot, the drop off, the scratch, that little lay off touch....
and then there is my upper leg/upper calf (dont know hwo to say). i could do a lot of stuff with that part too. and then there is my chest, my head, my back, my bum...! so many ways to have interaction with the ball.
so when we compare basketball games or hockey or whatever sports... it lacks comparison to me a little. isnt it, in that context!?

i hope you get what i mean. it isnt an excuse i made for konami to use. but maybe the complexity of the sport is part of wrong foot planting, arkward looking animation transitions, sliding and other things we pick about (aka we mention for the game to be better)!?
i always had that "its 22 people on the pitch"... "and thats more than other sports have players on the field"...thought. but the sheer amount of possibilities to handle the ball is uncompared, right!?

as i said, not an excuse, but maybe its just damn hard to get right.
i wish i could tell you in german... then i could be more in detail. but i guess youll get an idea.

have a good day fellas!
 
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SHF77Y said:
A bit unfair to compare graphics between a basketball game which only has 600-700 players to model, versus a football game with 10,000+
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Not just that, a football game also need the power to render graphics on 22 players and with a bigger playing area at the one time, basket ball is like 6.
 
Player faces are fine. We've come along way from where we used to be and I think a lot of people forget is that at the end of the day, it's a video game. And one that's not made a AAA developer with a gigantic budget.

You can't deny that it looks realistic visually. Yes it looks like a video game, but a realistic video game. It achieves what it sets out to do.
 
MafiaMurderBag said:
Player faces are fine. We've come along way from where we used to be and I think a lot of people forget is that at the end of the day, it's a video game. And one that's not made a AAA developer with a gigantic budget.

You can't deny that it looks realistic visually. Yes it looks like a video game, but a realistic video game. It achieves what it sets out to do.
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Yeah it's fine, I think some just expect too much from these consoles, kind of like they expect them to have the minds of 22 people at the same time and the new one, also look photo realistic.
 
MafiaMurderBag said:
Player faces are fine. We've come along way from where we used to be and I think a lot of people forget is that at the end of the day, it's a video game. And one that's not made a AAA developer with a gigantic budget.

You can't deny that it looks realistic visually. Yes it looks like a video game, but a realistic video game. It achieves what it sets out to do.
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Exactly. I think the faces look fine. That being said, there must be something going on with video game technology where they can't replicate beards properly. Never seen a game that does beards well. Not the little wispy peach fuzz ones that 20 years old have, but the full bushy beard that people like myself and Raul Meireles have.
 
its999maggle said:
https://www.evo-web.co.uk/threads/pes-2019-news-thread-updated-july-9th.78939/page-2#post-3280732
Didn't they say the two question marks in the original schedule were the two unannounced leagues? I'm starting to think one of them is Serie A.
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thats not what i was talking about. sure, theyll announce more leagues when hitting the question mark countries!

but i found an answer for my question: https://twitter.com/officialpes/status/1017726703316230146
these 2 events with the youtube logo will be live streamed!
 
Any news if PES 2019 will have the playoffs system for the Belgium Pro League? Because I can't find it anywhere.

Because for the Scottish League they say this on the Konami website: "The experience is as authentic as possible too, with all league regulations being implemented, such as the Split System from the Scottish Premiership."
 
TjaardA said:
Any news if PES 2019 will have the playoffs system for the Belgium Pro League? Because I can't find it anywhere.

Because for the Scottish League they say this on the Konami website: "The experience is as authentic as possible too, with all league regulations being implemented, such as the Split System from the Scottish Premiership."
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You'd think with it being Officially licensed they would accurately reflect this structure in the game, maybe even legally obligated to.. But it is Konami we're talking about here, don't be surprised if you get outdated Belgian Rosters like Copa Liberatdores teams did years ago.

Mate I'm still waiting for them to remember they have African cup of nations & Copa America competitions in the game and that they need to implement the group stage structure despite being enough teams to do so now.
 
TjaardA said:
Any news if PES 2019 will have the playoffs system for the Belgium Pro League? Because I can't find it anywhere.

Because for the Scottish League they say this on the Konami website: "The experience is as authentic as possible too, with all league regulations being implemented, such as the Split System from the Scottish Premiership."
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I'd be surprised if not with them having that line in there.
 
now ronaldo is playing in serie A i expect EA to throw money at them to gain the official license a shame for pes 2019 would be nice to have the serie a+b official
 
SerieALegends said:
now ronaldo is playing in serie A i expect EA to throw money at them to gain the official license a shame for pes 2019 would be nice to have the serie a+b official
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I'm sure they had it in the bag before that. EA didn't even have a fully licensed Serie B so I imagine they'll be looking to sort that out ASAP.

I still think it's embarrassing for EA that they don't have the proper goalkeeper kits for a large number of their teams. Say what you want about Konami but at least when they do have a licence, they do the kits properly.
 
Chuny said:
True.

I think we sometimes mistake players likeness with realism or graphics quality.
PES players likeness (faces, hairs, models, etc) it's unparalleled when compared to FIFA. But when it comes to technologies and using them to take full advantage to try to produce a photo-realistic game (from close-up and from gameplay view) it's still not up to speed. That's what I said in my previous post to this one, talking about night games looking flat, lacking shadows, etc.
We settle for less, sometimes. This year they created a simple noisy texture for PES 2019 (from what we can see in the videos and screenshots) and everybody went crazy talking about how good the grass looks. It's just a simple texture with noise! There are no foot planting marks, no real time pitch wearing out, nothing. A noisy texture, that's all it took.

That said, I still think PES graphics look better than FIFA's.
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FIFA's graphics looks expensive and advanced, PES graphics looks cheap and outdated.
But Yes, the likenesses in FIFA is weird. The gamplay body models looks weird too. I'm not sure why. They obviously have the capabilities to really make these things lifelike.

BTW, that PES gameplay grass will look even uglier once you're looking at it 3 feet away from the monitor. I'm sure it will look even uglier on 4K since the more pixels will make the flatness of the grass more obvious.

What's weird is that if we watch football matches on youtube, the normal camera grass looks bad too.
It only looks real because we know it's real. Try putting this grass on PES, it will still look bad.
 
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I have a feeling we won't be seeing any more new leagues ready on release date, this is it. Those 5 ("7") new, that's it. Maybe some new exclusive team/stadium deals can make it in 1 month time from now.

Whatever else they possibly announce will likely come out as data pack 1 or data pack 2(maybe 1 new league and 1 new partner with 1 stadium in each), 3 would cover winter transfers and 4 probably more faces and other similar tidbits like we had so far.

(just my guess)
 
Pyro said:
I have a feeling we won't be seeing any more new leagues ready on release date, this is it. Those 5 ("7") new, that's it. Maybe some new exclusive team/stadium deals can make it in 1 month time from now.

Whatever else they possibly announce will likely come out as data pack 1 or data pack 2(maybe 1 new league and 1 new partner with 1 stadium in each), 3 would cover winter transfers and 4 probably more faces and other similar tidbits like we had so far.

(just my guess)
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Sounds very Konami. I hope you're wrong.
 
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