Nice.
@Alx1234 just saw your post haha.
I started with the first 2 Danish teams. Then I did Manchester United and City. Then more. I don't have Legend difficulty yet. So I have to play Superstar for an amount of times before it unlocks?
Yeah I like to believe so from what I've witnessed. I honestly went into it hopeless, just doing it for the sake of it, didn't expect much. So I was pleasantly surprised to see stats actually still working. But again imo, to see the difference, I'm only sticking to the 40-70 stats range, with 80 being my ceiling, as in reserved to the best of the best, like Messi or Ronaldo. So even the best are mostly 70s in this test. Like I mentioned earlier, 70s still feel like 80s and 90s stats to me, and maybe that's why we're complaining to see no difference between players, since most of them, If not all, are in the 70-90 range.
Also, when I speak of the 40-70 range, it's only the ball control, dribble, pass, loft pass and explosive speed stats that I've changed, and the 5 keeper stats except Clearing (only for keepers). All other stats I haven't touched and are still in their default state, 40-90s. Maybe someone else can fiddle with them
Nice write up there @aussiepesfan. With everything you've mentioned though, I still couldn't enjoy the game.
But here's the thing, I think I've finally found the PES that I was looking for (to an extent), in pes 2019, hidden under all this Konami mess. I've tried something and I've been testing it for a while now. I didn't want to post my findings after one game, because I didn't want to rush only to find out it's placebo.
I don't know if anyone's tried this before. So I had an idea to try and alter gameplay by lowering certain stats; ball control, dribble, pass, lofted pass and explosive power. Since CPU AI love to play end to end arcade, the players' perfect ball control and super agility, along with perfect passes helped it achieve that easily. By lowering these stats by 20 points, I thought I'd disrupt all that.
To my pleasant surprise, apart from the passing stats (I don't think passing was affected much), it worked! CPU AI couldn't play end to end every time. Most of the play took more realistic time than it previously did. The whole pace of the game was more realistic. Suddenly the game felt like I'm playing PES 3. The whole feel of it felt exactly like it. More ball bobble, more players trying to get the ball under control first before their next move, more errors, just a better overall, true PES experience. And something that really resembles realistic football.
What I also did was decrease all the relevant GK stats by 20, the 5 stats from Goalkeeping to Coverage, apart from the Clearing stat. I wanted to get rid of the unrealsitic super saves and floaty jumps as much as I could. I don't know, but I think it worked as well. I haven't seen any silly unrealsitic saves since, honestly. Maybe it's a coincidence, but for now I will keep believing this worked. I left the Clearing stat alone because it makes sure keepers punch the ball to safe areas, as indicated in the help screen. I didn't want to lower it and see keepers spilling balls every game. So this all works good now.
I hope you guys who've had issues liking this game like I did, to try this. And tell me how you find it. You can of course try lowering all the stats I mentioned by 10 or 15 points if you think 20 is a lot. But I honestly feel after trying this, that even with stats in the 70s, the game still plays very well. Players still control great. Probably that is the reason why we feel there's no difference between players and that all of them control and dribble perfectly like Messi etc.
Imo, in this game, if you're looking for realism, don't touch the speed slider. Leave it at 0, and have your stat ceiling be 79 or 80 (equivalent to 99 or 100). Anything in the 80+ range turns this game into an arcade fest.
You can go ahead and try experimenting with other stats that I haven't mentioned. You can also try reducing less than 20 points. See what works for you.
And finally, I've changed difficulty to Superstar. I wanted to see if the AI will play smarter and use more options. And again they actually did. And coupled with what I did above, this has turned into something great so far. A good realistic challenge.
I hope you guys try this out and let me know your findings
It's cumbersome but it's worth it imo. Oh and don't forget to turn off live update before playing so the game uses your edited stats.
Back to more editing, testing and enjoying
And for once this is a long post that's a very positive one
Possible too. But with no way to turn player development off I don't think it's a good idea to play this in ML anyway.
Its definitely less ping pongy and less end to end. But -20 for ball control is a bit too much i think. It made the ball bounces off feet wierdly sometimes.
Means it's working
Now you can fine tune it to your liking. Personally I'll stick to -20 as it makes me think about getting the ball under control first, compared to not thinking about it at all before because it was always a given it was perfectly controlled. With this I have to take into consideration where the AI is coming from, therefore how to control the ball and in which direction is safer. Before this, my finger was already on the dash button. It was too easy, thus making it always easy to control and move and end to end.
It's problaby kinda weird, but the absence of sliders is what I personaly prefer.
For me if pes has slider i will use matt10's settings and enjoying the game rather than worrying on the sliders after
Everytime, I tried a new slider-set for Fifa from the OS-Forum for example, I wondered if now that's it or if it could be better. So i was more worrying about sliders than enjoying the game. So since Fifa 18 I played only on default.
In my opinion a sportsgame developer should be able to create a decent and balanced gameplay out of the box. Or why not creating different modes of gameplay like arcade, simulation, whatever? Madden has it for example.
Since the OS-Forum has introduced the community slider thread, they are testing an tweaking sliders for Fifa almost until the new game is published.
Good read!
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Errrm, what's not to like when every referee is Ray Charles, AI def. lines always backtracking, players turning like trucks and such?
It certainly looked better than it performed.
But 2019 is slowly growing on me now with everything we've got.
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First post here, so hi to all!
As I actually stopped my Fifa Career because of the -1 Bug and EAs complete ignorance about it, I got inspired by the "Good old times"-posts from @Rodchenko and @Matt10 and just bought PES 19 in the PSN Sale. (At least I can't sell it now, as I did with my 2 copies of PES 19 before...)
Right now I'm motivated to start a new career tonight after work and as I never digged very deep in the tactic menues in the last years editions, I wonder what to do with the fluid formations. "On the ball" and "off the ball" formations are quite plain to me, but what is meant by "at kick-off"? Is it just a lazy translation again from Konami? I mean, there is no reason to set a formation just for a kick-off situation? Could anybody clear things up for me?
Nice!@Lami F me!!
Needed to up the speed to regular (been playing -1), because with Lami Slider it felt even slower. To slow for my liking. Now it’s good on regular speed.
The CPU seems more vulnerable. I think explosive power downgrade of 20 works wonder. Maybe it’s a little to much but the AI seems different. In a positive way, not so hectic (and this is on regular speed)! I don’t get it.
The AI did some crazy thinks. Need to play more. They are more real aka slower on the ball wich gives me more time to get on them in different ways (single or team pressure plus man at stick).
Will adjust all United players before I go on hammering this match!
Been playing with all green form arrows for both teams btw.
Had a lot of cross bar hits (might be down to basic shooting). Yes I try this too. You guys keep me digging deeper and trying stuff.
And I’ll up the difficulty now to superstar (keeping basic shooting for now, as I saw a nice curler from Pogba I haven’t seen yet (outside pen area))!
Happy happy because I found some new stuff to keep me busy till 2020 drops!
Will be back with more impressions.
Edit: some players end up with very low OVR rating when you edit these 5 thing alone. But I will not care for now!
