Lobbedball
League 1
- 14 July 2018
ofc man, this is my thinking exactly
The Legend challenge in myClub is a match against Barcelona or Liverpool on Legend difficulty. The AI converts literally 100% of their chances.
Schwarzenbeck
Premier League
I managed to do one with Dybala. One in about 500 matches. More often they will go for the overhead scissor kick. I cannot tell you how much I loathe scoring from a scissor kick. It’s like Konami throwing a surprise party every night after work. You enter your home and there is a group of Japanese people and they all shout “Scissoooor Kiiiiiick!!!!” and someone fires a flashlight in your face and there is a Mary Kondo type person who is holding your arm and she is like: “isn’t that amaaaaaazing?” and all you can think of is “Fuck off, I want to be left alone”
So how do you even tackle in this game? I play with Top Player AI, they just tackle me all the time, El Shaarawy outmuscling Vidal yet when I press the A button (Xbox controller) all my player does is circling around the ball carrier as if there's an invisible force field protecting him.
Lobbedball
League 1
- 14 July 2018
it s a joke man, these things need to be fixed aswell, good point anw
Schwarzenbeck
Premier League
It’s beyond ridiculous. When the AI is on red attack level they can butcher you - AI defender frontally slides into my player with an outstretched leg - normally a contender for a straight red card - but ref doesn’t even raise an eyebrow but when I move a foot into the AI-attacker - playing the fucking ball - and he stumbles over it, not only is a foul called, I am getting a yellow on top. Fuck you, Konami.
rockstrongo
Retired Footballer
Off and on between Pes 17-18-19
Decided to give 19 a go again,plays great on the ball but after the first low cross and top shelf finish by the AI it's binned,again.
Back to 18 again
Decided to give 19 a go again,plays great on the ball but after the first low cross and top shelf finish by the AI it's binned,again.
Back to 18 again
Schwarzenbeck
Premier League
It's so strange, innit? I had a fantastic CL group match at Liverpool (me Roma), fought my tits off for 90 minutes against constant Gegenpress and a bribed ref, actually having the better chances, then Manolas slide tackles Salah in the box, penalty 90+3 for Liverpool, Henderson converts. All for nothing. I was disappointed, but not in a "you fucking game cheated me" kind of way, more in a "I gave everything but this is football" kind of way. Rewarding. Reran the match in my head many times.
Then I have another one with Bayern (me) at home against Mainz 05 and though I won it in the end (1-0) it was beyond ridiculous. Laser passes, tiki-taka, perfect positioning, perfect management of space by Mainz, super keeper, super dribblings, super everything, 4-3-3 lineup (at Allianz Arena!). An infuriating caricature of a game, utterly painful to play and totally unrewarding, victory notwithstanding.
Goes to tell a lot about the state of a game when winning can be more frustrating than losing.
rockstrongo
Retired Footballer
Thats the thing,a good game makes even a loss feels alright.
And I have even move down to Reg difficulty to make the CPU play more human like,works great on Pes 18,but here it's so hard coded ,CPU can only score /play in a certain way.
So frustrating
Paynekiller
Premier League
- 14 June 2015
I feel the exact same way. Their has been times where PES can be an absolute joy to play against the CPU but times like those are so few and far between, so 99% of the time it's incredibly frustrating to play and enjoy PES because the CPU is so generic and lacks variety.
rockstrongo
Retired Footballer
Fully agreeing mate,I still enjoy Pes 17-18 for that reason,a good and varied AI,I still have PS3 (bought for retro gaming) and Pes 10-11-12-13-14,but it's hard to enjoy right now when you're used to 4k games,to bad,but that's how my "spoilt" gaming has ended up
So atm I'm really enjoying 18,the lack of fouls are shit,but the freedom of the ball and a very good and varied ai keeps me going,and gives me some sort of hope for 20
Paynekiller
Premier League
- 14 June 2015
If PES2019 had the same varied Ai that was in PES2018 I would still be playing 2019 on a daily basis but it seems to me that the Ai downgrade was intentional which was incredibly disappointing and almost unforgivable. I sincerely hope lessons have been learnt by the time the PES2020 demo is launched.
rockstrongo
Retired Footballer
It's by far the worst ai in any Pes game (that I can recall)
Especially since it looks so good,the disappointment gets worse
ThomasGOAL
Retired Footballer
- 15 March 2003
2 nice goals in the same game (FUMA)
Dribble with Verratti in CO-OP FUMA 3vs3 FUTO
I add this one from yesterday, easy game for finish the night, but still in FUMA and pro difficulty.
Dribble with Verratti in CO-OP FUMA 3vs3 FUTO
I add this one from yesterday, easy game for finish the night, but still in FUMA and pro difficulty.
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Better to do defending on your own, other than holding a button. You need to use R2 and R1R2 to freely position your player.
I think it's great that holding a button doesn't let you take the ball easily. We've had quite enough of the X and [] pressure spam over the years.
chiefrocka4real
Champions League
The ones in the spoiler look great!
I don´t use R2 too often, but I guess I should now!
Elanimator
Championship
- 5 November 2017
Some long range and team work goals.
Gale Kast
League 2
- 7 August 2018
Gotta love Reddit, this is the reason online play can be so frustrating. "I can't one touch from end to end, how can I be better?"
"The Pros play pa3, try that!"
It needs to be removed asap!
"The Pros play pa3, try that!"
It needs to be removed asap!
Gale Kast
League 2
- 7 August 2018
You know it. That's the mentality those of us who want a game of football online are fighting against. People saying "Hey, here's how the cheapest "pros" are getting to finals, try this... and have you considered lag cheating too in the competitions? Then you could be top of the leader board with 0 defeats and 4000 wins too!"
game is a frickin abomination for gamer experience.
am sitting my arse here for the past 5 minutes trying to get PES to load up on PC - nothings changed since I played earlier today.
day before yesterday I was on XB1 - 2-3 mins stuck on a loading screen.
seriously - i wouldn't wish this abomination n my worst enemy.
was hoping to wrap the day up with a quick game on PC. not happening. switching off and going to sleep.
tomorrow I am going to break a tree. I will think fondly of pes.
Next-day edit : My PC loading issues are related to my PC setup rather than PES. Once loaded though, I've just played 3 league games back-to-back on professional. The games felt good. I was disappointed last night but I'm good now. Time to break that tree!!!
am sitting my arse here for the past 5 minutes trying to get PES to load up on PC - nothings changed since I played earlier today.
day before yesterday I was on XB1 - 2-3 mins stuck on a loading screen.
seriously - i wouldn't wish this abomination n my worst enemy.
was hoping to wrap the day up with a quick game on PC. not happening. switching off and going to sleep.
tomorrow I am going to break a tree. I will think fondly of pes.
Next-day edit : My PC loading issues are related to my PC setup rather than PES. Once loaded though, I've just played 3 league games back-to-back on professional. The games felt good. I was disappointed last night but I'm good now. Time to break that tree!!!
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Danny Henry
The King is dead.
- 16 September 2013
Yesterday a give a try on this game again. Offline player vs player and I found it very arcade comparing to PES 2018. Tackling is more easier, its way more end to end football. Its frenatic! Its like comparing PES 5 and 6.
Sorry for asking but you guys really think that this game is better than 2018 just because it have more fouls and less backheels?
Sorry for asking but you guys really think that this game is better than 2018 just because it have more fouls and less backheels?
slamsoze
International
- 28 September 2010
These days i am submitting myself to a weird torture. As i have very limited time, i play max. 4-5 games every second day. I always start with 2 games on my 17 or 18 ML and then i always play 2-3 games on my 19 ML. I enjoy both 17 & 18 much with their given flaws, but for some reason 19 makes me always angry. I can win Bayern and BVB 1-0 and 3-1 and i can loose 1-3, 1-4 from the last 2* teams of the league table.Everything feels totally random and out of control.
The 19 AI although improved by last patches, still lacks variety, they now just score with 3 very standard ways, instead of standard 1 way they used to before.
Relating to your post, back heels of 18 do not bother me anymore, after so many games in 19, that the AI blatantly builds up with straight one-touch passes, the backheels in 18 started to look very normal!!! Furthermore , for sure the lack of physical game and fouls are a big minus in 18, but the player movement and feints with tilting the Left stick, gives an awesome feel of control , unique until today, that make me also wonder , how is not everyone upset with this downgrade in 19, which feels completely like a 4-directions game.
Also the awareness is broken in 19. I started having issues with AI teamates colliding on me, or when i play a short-touch pass with 10% power they are lethargic as hell, untill they start the animation to control the ball, it goes out of bounds or opponent intercepts. It is like they are asleep most of time and you wake up them. Maybe if i would try PA3 they would have better awareness, maybe the game was designed with PA3 in mind, but i find it unacceptable to go over PA1.
Maybe i am "heretic" like @Danny Henry , but i find ball control and player movement of 2019, as an PSone level game, in comparison with 2018.
rockstrongo
Retired Footballer
18 ist so much Better,just check how the Ai attacks/shoots/dribbles.
19 is so stale Vs that
- Staff
- #10,228
I don't think this is "random", I think this is how the game works and can be observed in ML dependent on difficulty level (Top Player and above, but especially Superstar of course).
As Newcastle with an average "team spirit", whenever I play Fulham (I mention them often, specifically) they string together perfect first-time no-look passes like Barcelona - if Barcelona were psychic robots from the planet Cyborgio Futbola.
I think that the game looks at their overall ability and goes "these guys need a boost in order to keep the difficulty hard". But then you play a top-four side, e.g. Chelsea, and without the boosts, they're much easier to at least draw against, if not beat.
I haven't played around in Exhibition Mode enough to figure out if this "boost" is just "team spirit" going haywire - but I often wonder. Either way, I don't think it's "random" at all - I think it's just how the game works.
It makes no sense - and I find it really interesting that football games of the last decade have had issues here to an extent. FIFA's own forums blew up a while ago because it was always easier to beat e.g. Man United (when they were good) than Fulham, because Man United would leave loads of space while they attacked (which it was too easy to exploit) whereas Fulham didn't (and were too good at attacking play, compared to reality).
- Staff
- #10,229
PES 2019 is one of PS Plus's free games of July.
Not sure that this is a good sign. I love a golf game called The Golf Club 2019 and from what I know, they're really struggling for sales (despite slashing the price), and this meant there was nobody online to play against... So they ended up giving it away on Xbox via Games With Gold.
If PES was doing this just to get more microtransactions, I'd get it - but they've already got the "Lite" version to do that. So... Is the game just not selling?
Not sure that this is a good sign. I love a golf game called The Golf Club 2019 and from what I know, they're really struggling for sales (despite slashing the price), and this meant there was nobody online to play against... So they ended up giving it away on Xbox via Games With Gold.
If PES was doing this just to get more microtransactions, I'd get it - but they've already got the "Lite" version to do that. So... Is the game just not selling?
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rockstrongo
Retired Footballer
Both NHL and the Golf club.
Pretty big games though.
Never seen a EA sports title as a free game before on gold.