PES 2019 Discussion Thread (PS4, XB1)

Love the way Pes19 thread is such graveyard, that no one mentioned Data Pack 6 coming this Thursday.. :LOL:
Anyway, here it is. Surprise Knight in a Shiny Armour, with more shiny faces.

Will there be any gameplay changes? No idea. But Adam says its worth the wait, so Im sure it is..Screenshot_20190527-143746_Twitter.jpg
 
Emroth said:
Love the way Pes19 thread is such graveyard, that no one mentioned Data Pack 6 coming this Thursday.. :LOL:
Anyway, here it is. Surprise Knight in a Shiny Armour, with more shiny faces.

Will there be any gameplay changes? No idea. But Adam says its worth the wait, so Im sure it is..View attachment 15991
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“We are not quite done with PES2019”!!!!
This sounds more threatening than promising!! :P
 
slamsoze said:
“We are not quite done with PES2019”!!!!
This sounds more threatening than promising!! :P
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Hahaha! It does!
Its like George RR Martin saying to the fans - I wont stop writing until hearts of everyone that read my books are broken.. :LOL:
 
vxcmplx said:
R2 shot works in manual. Just need to take good care of your body animation and prep it 90 degrees and slow down leading up to the shot

https://www.youtube.com/video/MWT8zxMieyA/
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I think most people are just looking for that one R2 shot that looks always the same (like old PES)

But R2 is really just, what you'd call "instep shot". It's a button to use your inside of foot.

The animation varies, according to your body angle.

If u want that old perfect R2 animation, u have to prep yourself to go into the perfect body angel and balance (for the sake of having good animation).

But there's a variety of things u can do with R2.

This vid, for example. Body angle is in a straight line. We won't expect the same type of animation (wrapping foot around ball, curving far post). But still, the use of inside of foot is there:

https://www.youtube.com/video/QGSlZE7eHMM/

Here's one that's delicate, like the video from previous post:

https://www.youtube.com/video/GhlubEmliZs/

It does different things according to your animation leading up to the shot. It's not like older PES where it will give u the SAME animation all the time, shooting with R2, regardless of your incoming speed, body direction, body balance etc. Coz in the old days, u just hold one button, and it disregards all the things u were doing before, u could run full speed without slowing down, in a straight line at goal, and holding R2 your player suddenly leans sideways and takes the shot.

All R2 does now, is to force your player to take the shot with his instep. It doesn't guarantee he can open up his body enough to wrap his foot around it to give u the amount of curve you want. That's YOUR JOB to manage it.


Some other variants:

https://www.youtube.com/video/eNPOPTTRf2A/

https://www.youtube.com/video/EV25fU_66nI/

https://www.youtube.com/video/jnDx2emwSL4/

Here's a more difficult one from PES18:

https://www.youtube.com/video/ubS9l-INpxQ/

Here's one from a very uncomfortable angle. Still, instep was used, just not sexy with the curve and all.

https://www.youtube.com/video/98wrgKPxLBI/


I mean, all of this is more-or-less realistic to me, the type of shot that would come out, taking into consideration the moments leading up to the shot, how I oriented my body. I like this more than having a button that just has the same outcome, regardless of how I proceeded into the shot. Isn't that too automatic?


The only thing R2 guarantees, is that your player will be forced to take the shot with his instep. Nothing more.

Actually, this makes me wonder, what type of shot we'll get, if the angle is less than 0. I don't remember really. Probably a toe poke?
 
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Id substitute any day "old PES" shooting system for the sake of losing animations. It had more variety, depth, outcomes, was more rewarding to score. Currently the easiest shot is the chipped one, well try that in old PES. One of the most difficult shots, also in reality.
 
vxcmplx said:
I think most people are just looking for that one R2 shot that looks always the same (like old PES)

But R2 is really just, what you'd call "instep shot". It's a button to use your inside of foot.

The animation varies, according to your body angle.

If u want that old perfect R2 animation, u have to prep yourself to go into the perfect body angel and balance (for the sake of having good animation).

But there's a variety of things u can do with R2.

This vid, for example. Body angle is in a straight line. We won't expect the same type of animation (wrapping foot around ball, curving far post). But still, the use of inside of foot is there:

https://www.youtube.com/video/QGSlZE7eHMM/

Here's one that's delicate, like the video from previous post:

https://www.youtube.com/video/GhlubEmliZs/

It does different things according to your animation leading up to the shot. It's not like older PES where it will give u the SAME animation all the time, shooting with R2, regardless of your incoming speed, body direction, body balance etc. Coz in the old days, u just hold one button, and it disregards all the things u were doing before, u could run full speed without slowing down, in a straight line at goal, and holding R2 your player suddenly leans sideways and takes the shot.

All R2 does now, is to force your player to take the shot with his instep. It doesn't guarantee he can open up his body enough to wrap his foot around it to give u the amount of curve you want. That's YOUR JOB to manage it.


Some other variants:

https://www.youtube.com/video/eNPOPTTRf2A/

https://www.youtube.com/video/EV25fU_66nI/

https://www.youtube.com/video/jnDx2emwSL4/

Here's a more difficult one from PES18:

https://www.youtube.com/video/ubS9l-INpxQ/

Here's one from a very uncomfortable angle. Still, instep was used, just not sexy with the curve and all.

https://www.youtube.com/video/98wrgKPxLBI/


I mean, all of this is more-or-less realistic to me, the type of shot that would come out, taking into consideration the moments leading up to the shot, how I oriented my body. I like this more than having a button that just has the same outcome, regardless of how I proceeded into the shot. Isn't that too automatic?


The only thing R2 guarantees, is that your player will be forced to take the shot with his instep. Nothing more.

Actually, this makes me wonder, what type of shot we'll get, if the angle is less than 0. I don't remember really. Probably a toe poke?
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Manual r2 shots are fine(I changed my mind in the end:D), except for that "heavy spin r2 that curves beautifully(that is too common and looks the same on basic)" is not even possible on manual.
I don't mind if it's very difficult on manual or only certain players can do it, as long as it's possible.

I haven't tested manual r2 shots on pes16 and 17 but, I think the last time it's possible on manual is in Pes15.
Pes15
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Pes2019- Tried a lot of body positioning but can't do that heavy spin.
pes19-r2-ball-path.gif


Another issues with manual R2 is the aiming is the ball doesn't go to where you point your left stick. It's almost always go more than a couple of feet or more away from your LS direction. In the past, this aiming issue is fine with me because I want this shot to be harder than normal manual shots, but then I realized there's no need to make it harder than it should be.

I like that we need proper body positioning, balance and all, but we can't just accept that it's fine. It's not fine because of these 2 issues(aiming and limited spin).
 
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vxcmplx said:
R2 shot works in manual. Just need to take good care of your body animation and prep it 90 degrees and slow down leading up to the shot

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Imho i believe this goal, is the most common and cheasy in pes history . I struggle to believe that R2 has a proper impact . For me it could work without R2.
As far as i remember, these goal when you run vertically in the line of the penalty box, cutting inside from the wing and shooting diagonal to the opposite corner of the goalpost, is a 75% guaranteed goal, for sure since iss pro evo , playstation 1 era.
 
MafiaMurderBag said:
Right, I need to understand why Suarez has a new face? I swear he looks the bloody same? Him and Aguero seem to get updated at least twice every year.
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The only difference is that they had removed the beard completely in a previous dlc when he had shaved in real life also and now that he has a beard again in real life they brought it back lol.Although his beard in real life is longer than this.
I want the correct beard length Konami otherwise i'm not buying Pes 20 fo'show!:FISH:
 
Dennis_87 said:
The only difference is that they had removed the beard completely in a previous dlc when he had shaved in real life also and now that he has a beard again in real life they brought it back lol.Although his beard in real life is longer than this.
I want the correct beard length Konami otherwise i'm not buying Pes 20 fo'show!:FISH:
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See, if Konami don't want us to customize the players hair & beards anymore like we used to, the least they could do is keep the previous DLC models in edit mode so we could at least swap between them. They seriously can't be updating players because they shave then updating them again because they grow back a trivial amount.

I know Suarez got a neck tattoo too, but they've done this before with Messi & Ronaldo.
 
The more they announce about faces and not about gameplay improvements the more I think this company is a joke.

Whether before or after they introduce womens football to the game, I'm telling you PES will have a make-up editor soon so you can add more blush before you take your nancy boys out on the pitch.
 
Faces are so hot, please update those every week.. :D :D they give a shit for gameplay updates.. I stop playing Pes 2019 and go back Pes 2018, it's better ML gameplay.. :)
 
hitmanuk said:
I tweeted this same issue to Adam and official pes as usual no response
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Many people, even people from communities very close to Konami tweeted the same thing to Adam. It's a joke right now.

This obsession with faces is unhealthy. I guess it's the only thing they can be sure people will agree it's well done in Pes, not many other things they can brag about.
 
i just think they have purposely set some form of guardian box around the box for the AI - ive been fouled in the box but just never get a penalty and i think the 2 that i have had all year both before XMAS were bugs in the system
 
hitmanuk said:
I tweeted this same issue to Adam and official pes as usual no response
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I bet a possible answer would be “Something you are doing wrong, we get millions of penalties in our play tests, around 10 per halftime “ accompanied with a photoshopped screenshot!!
But this only in promo period or early release days. “Our”policy is to not respond to any game-related feedback after January. :P
 
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hitmanuk said:
i just think they have purposely set some form of guardian box around the box for the AI - ive been fouled in the box but just never get a penalty and i think the 2 that i have had all year both before XMAS were bugs in the system
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And it is funny how this guardian box extend close to the final 1/3 of the cpu when you play a match, that you are “destined” to loose.
In those matches, even if I break the one touch laser passes with super cancel and escape from the mud, the COM defenders hit my players with some brutal tackles in spots that if a FK was given, it would be a point-blank one. But the ref doesn’t touch his whistle until the ball possession is given back to CPU. Sometimes even the linesman is waving the flag from a brutal body-tackle, but the ref ignores even him, not even a pseudo-advantage call!
 
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