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PES 2018 PlayStation & Xbox Discussion Thread

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I wonder if the founders of Youtube would have gone ahead with it if they realised the horrific effects it would have on how people speak.
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I don't like this whole "talk about things you don't really know anything about". Why there is a youtube video about a beta and Master League even before someone played them? Do people really need other youtubers to tell them how to think about something?
 
About the goalkeepers. They lack situational awareness. You can see that in some videos when the offensive player is not in the position of the ball and the keeper should have come out he doesnt understand the situation because the game / keeper only reacts when an opposing player dribbles with the ball. And with that way too late on 1 on 1s.

If they dont fix this till release - i guarentee you that this is an absolute game breaker after a couple of weeks. At least for me. There is no satisfaction in scoring a goal when you dont have to make this split second decision what to do when a keeper closes in on you. Its just awful the way it is now when looking at the videos. Stuck on their lines so long that you can choose which side to put the ball in without any stress.

Look at the goal keeper positioning on 2:11 on the old games - they are aware:
 
romagnoli said:
I wonder if the founders of Youtube would have gone ahead with it if they realised the horrific effects it would have on how people speak.
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Have to agree, even though I am subscribed to TTB. His Master League stuff can be quite amusing due to his enthusiastic commentary.

However, and I am wondering off your point somewhat, as soon as he does anything else on his channel I find him very hard to listen to (not that I need to, of course) I say I watch and enjoy his Master League stuff but even then that is somewhat caveated in that he plays at far too fast a pace for my liking. Also, he says he can't do an ML with a smaller club because he doesn't get the viewers and that ML was too easy. He went Leicester City with the real life squad for PES2017, for fucks sakes. Not that I am suggesting Leicester are a massive club but off the back of their title victory it sure as hell saw their players get stat boosts in the game. It is going to be easier.

His critiques of PES2018 have been weird. He tried to criticise the AI's defensive aggression (or alleged lack thereof) in another video yet used an example in which the AI defender did exactly that which would be coached in the real sport. He constantly contradicts himself and just says...well, really weird, incredibly muddled things. In this latest video he gives three dates as to when the Beta will be released and then says it will be on or the other. The term "one or the other" would be used when discussing two possibilities, not three. It shouldn't irritate, but it does.

When he plays online he is insufferable as he believes the game is cheating him and bemoans the cross spamming, blissfully ignorant to how he sets his team up invites the opposition to exploit the wing; forever setting up his formation by positioning his entire midfield and full-backs (fuck me, especially his full-backs) further up the field. He doesn't leave space on the flanks, he leaves meadows.
 
Right, enough of this.

This has gone from the news and opinions thread, to the "personal attack" thread, and no amount of warnings from admin has helped stem the flow of bullshit for more than a day or two.

The thread is getting locked. Could be for a day, could be for a week. Any genuine news or opinions in the meantime, store them up. Normal service will be resumed shortly.

Any threads whinging about this, or attempts at starting "news thread version 2.0", and there will be bans.

This has been discussed amongst the staff for a while now - we are not taking this decision lightly.

Sit tight and, above everything guys, take a moment to enjoy the silence...
 
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And we're back. Thank you all for your patience - hope you've enjoyed the break!

A quick reminder... Criticism, analysis, sharing frustrations, positivity, enjoyment and excitement are all equally important to this forum (even if you disagree with any of it) - we all have different opinions and like to read different things, be it critical or joyous.

Off-topic stuff from the last couple of weeks has been deleted (nobody has the time it would take to delete ALL of it), and future off-topic posts will be deleted more quickly now, with any digs at each other (implied or direct) immediately resulting in bans, because too often this thread has become a battleground.

Play nice, folks. Looking forward to reading what you've all got to say.

Especially with the BETA JUST AROUND THE CORNER! :D

(Quick bit of news to kick us off, it's online only, 1v1 and 3v3, no local play because it's an online beta, not a demo.)
 
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I can't believe the 3v3 require me to have 3 players on my end locally. Heck I don't even have that many friends that plays PES. I guess I am only testing 1v1.
 
Topaz said:
I can't believe the 3v3 require me to have 3 players on my end locally. Heck I don't even have that many friends that plays PES. I guess I am only testing 1v1.
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Yeah, 1v1 will be my go ahead. I'm literally the only person who used to buy PES in this area. Now I just get it digitially, but still. I have zero physical friends of PES. The last one was isureaper31 but he moved to another state, lol.
 
Matt10 said:
Yeah, 1v1 will be my go ahead. I'm literally the only person who used to buy PES in this area. Now I just get it digitially, but still. I have zero physical friends of PES. The last one was isureaper31 but he moved to another state, lol.
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Here in Texas, I have only 1 local friend who plays PES and he is as disappointed as I am with this 3 local player. Might as well get my girlfriend to play along but she is hardly into footie games.
 
Any indication as to download size for the beta?

In preparation, I played a few games of the PES 2017 demo last night and it was actually really, really good to play. Played with 0 pass assist for a couple of games then swapped to level 1 and settled on the 9,3,3 camera setting. It must have been the PES 2016 demo where I was a bit meh about it.
 
i'm glad we're back here (sad but necessary move, imo)! please keep it civilized! i cant live without my community fix here and there! :BYE:

4 days till the beta!! :ROCK:
 
Topaz said:
I can't believe the 3v3 require me to have 3 players on my end locally. Heck I don't even have that many friends that plays PES. I guess I am only testing 1v1.
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But that's not true, is it?

You can be matched with 2 more random players to form your team against other 3 players.

This is what Adam said:

On coach is just to play with friends for the beta. Full game has variety of options to play with friends. Thanks
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So, if you want to play with your friends you have to use local users to play with you, but you can still test the 3vs3 with 2 others random players you will be matched online. That's because there is no invite system in this beta.
 
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Ameppe said:
So, if you want to play with your friends you have to use local users to play with you, but you can still test the 3vs3 with 2 others random players you will be matched online. That's because there is no invite system in this beta.
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Is that right? The quote from Adam you've given doesn't say you're matched with randoms online? (I've no idea what's happening, but I'd like to know!)

chiefrocka4real said:
U just need to download it from PSN, right?
No sign up somewhere, isn´t it?
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That's right!
 
Chris Davies said:
Is that right? The quote from Adam you've given doesn't say you're matched with randoms online? (I've no idea what's happening, but I'd like to know!)
That's right!
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It's not clear sofar. From what I understand is that you coop fellow players are just random chosen from online?
So you cannot choose your own online friends to co-operate in a match?
 
Chris Davies said:
Is that right? The quote from Adam you've given doesn't say you're matched with randoms online? (I've no idea what's happening, but I'd like to know!)
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Han said:
It's not clear sofar. From what I understand is that you coop fellow players are just random chosen from online?
So you cannot choose your own online friends to co-operate in a match?
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Online play only with random players
- Is the 3v3 random or can you get on a team with 2 other friends?

Adam Bhatti‏: Only if you're on the same console.
Sorry you're upset Tony, but a free beta to test online is the purpose to test connections across all users.
The priority is not for you to play the same way for 11 days, we won't learn much. Priority is online testing.
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from here: https://twitter.com/officialpes/status/885861442171183104
 
planum said:
Online play only with random players

from here: https://twitter.com/officialpes/status/885861442171183104
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Thanks!

Don't mind that so much. It'd be nice to play with a friend and a random, and 3v3 may end up being chaos if you've got six people all running after the ball, but it's a beta. Pretty sure they just want to make sure that six randoms can all play together without the game falling over - and to a lesser extent, "will they stick to their roles to earn a 'higher score' or will everyone try to be the hero".

I don't recall any AAA football game having an open beta before, so credit to them (especially after all the video footage they've allowed this year). Looking forward to 1v1 at any rate!
 
Yeah I have to commend them for hosting an open beta too. The fact they've acknowledged that online is an area where they've been lacking in for years & are willing open the floor & stress test this before officially releasing & trying to workout how to please customers bettor release is really admirable.

Does anyone know what exactly we have access to in this Beta, can we only play online with the in game teams, fake teams with fake players or is it a my club thing?
 
MafiaMurderBag said:
Does anyone know what exactly we have access to in this Beta, can we only play online with the in game teams, fake teams with fake players or is it a my club thing?
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Two teams, Brazil and France, both licensed. 1v1 or 3v3 exhibition matches, I believe.
 
Everything you need to know is explained on this picture:

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Please make a good manual this year more detailed ... a lot of info about ability, team roles, skill , players development, set pieces movement and tactical advice totally missing from online manual.
e.g. effect of player roles has three grade (i guess) (S), (B), (L) they should be small, balanced and large (or short/balanced/long??? ), we can't find anything about that nowhere
that reminds me to the times of piggyback guide about 2007
 
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