PES 2017 PlayStation & Xbox Discussion Thread

[Stoyancho]

I am pretty nice suprized, that in PES 2017, they manage to fix a lot gamebreaking things from 2016. Still i don't like four gameplay based things, for now:

- CPU passing accuracy is too high

- Traping, first touch and magnetizing the ball is so too perfect by any player, which in reallity is very hard to do, especially when the coming ball is with high speed, or uncomfortable trajectory against the player body

- Standing tackles are too easy, they need to be more challanging and this is one of the reasons for low scoring matches

- Stamina system have to have greater impact on player perfomance

 

[rockstrongo]

In 10 minutes I'll be on my bike getting the game
Feels a bit strange locking yourself in on a beutiful day like this,should be at the beach.
But duty first lads.

 

[P34SEMM]

http://pes2017optionfile.bigcartel.com/

here you go!

They want £5 but ive already paid £9.99 for a USB I haven't received or the email with the file for free?

 

[robbieryan]

have to say the physics in this game are truly amazing. getting or conceding free-kicks when challenging for headers, thinking wtf and then seeing the replay and realising you timed your jump so badly you basically jumped into the oppositions back and knocked him over. brilliant

 

[JayD]

Honest opinions required from Xbox-One owners please. I'm very tempted to pick this up after years away from Pro Evo as first impressions seem like it's a true return to form. However just a few doubts so would appreciate some answers. Firstly the resolution of the demo was disappointing for a game this gen, has this been improved at all in the final game? What is online like? Are the severs live yet? Is finding a game easy and is the connection smooth? Please these are my main doubts and I would like to hear informed opinions on them. Thanks in advance.

Anyone?

 

[Chris Davies]

Damn Microsoft.

Look at Fallout 4's mod support on Xbox and how they had to scrap it on PlayStation because they couldn't reach an agreement with Sony (who were essentially telling Bethesda that if they were offering an online "store" of mods they had to QA all of them, and that they wouldn't let them use more than 900mb for some bizarre reason).

I can't imagine it's Microsoft creating the problem (their social media campaigns at the moment centre on how "mod-friendly" they are).

Imagine that same online "store" of mods being available within PES - choose your option file, download entire leagues, or individual teams, with automatic updates whenever they're altered by the author... No pissing about with USB sticks etc... That's the dream, and only then will the mass game-buying population bother with option files.

 

[Daisuk]

Hook it up and give it a go, if you are a PES5, 6 fan then you will like it.

Many are saying that the full game is better

PES 5 was my all time favorite PES, and loved PES 6 as well, so should definitely try it out then! Thanks. I think I'll get the PC version eventually, can't be bothered hooking the PS3 back up, hehe. No demo for the PC version though, which sucks, as I'm not 100% sure my PC's specs are good enough.

 

[Scutch]

Look at Fallout 4's mod support on Xbox and how they had to scrap it on PlayStation because they couldn't reach an agreement with Sony (who were essentially telling Bethesda that if they were offering an online "store" of mods they had to QA all of them, and that they wouldn't let them use more than 900mb for some bizarre reason).

I can't imagine it's Microsoft creating the problem (their social media campaigns at the moment centre on how "mod-friendly" they are).

Imagine that same online "store" of mods being available within PES - choose your option file, download entire leagues, or individual teams, with automatic updates whenever they're altered by the author... No pissing about with USB sticks etc... That's the dream, and only then will the mass game-buying population bother with option files.

I guess so mate, but still highly frustrating knowing we won't have a game as "up-to-date" as the PS4 equivalent. Been very impressed by the PES comments and videos this year - media review suggests it's back on track, too. However, purchasing a PS4 simply to play a game is not something I'm about to do. Not again

 

[PeterC10]

PES 5 was my all time favorite PES, and loved PES 6 as well, so should definitely try it out then! Thanks. I think I'll get the PC version eventually, can't be bothered hooking the PS3 back up, hehe. No demo for the PC version though, which sucks, as I'm not 100% sure my PC's specs are good enough.

There is a PC demo now, it just wasn't available until the game was released.

 

[zeemeister]

Hi guys, playing it, loving it best football game ever made, not enough time in my life, on manual , no option file yet because I can't sacrifice 18mins more of my players no time.

Not perfect, soundtrack sucks donkey balls.

Back to my new life in the basement with Jimmy forever. love you all. Bye

 

[ThomasGOAL]

FC Barcelona Legends Trailer

 

[mehuk]

Cant fault the update, the squads are as they should be as far as I can see.

The biggest thing for me and its because of my OCD is that I need all the fake European teams sorted. Im happy to run a ML without the Bundesliga if it comes to it, as I can leave out the PEU leagues iirc. But I cant go into Europe and have Pabrowiestein in the groups... or seeing them sign up player after player.

Not fussed if their players arent changed, but I need them to be at least real teams on the face of it... then I can settle in a bit more.

Im itching to get going.

 

[gerd]

Just played two games.
A friendly between Borussia Dortmund (me) and Liverpool (CPu).
Liverpool tookthe lead in the first half, but i could score two goals in the second half.The equaliser was a very scrappy one (i was delighted with that).
Liverpool got 3 yellow cards(rather harsh ones).

Then i decided to start a ML with my beloved Argentinian league (nooption file at the moment, decided to buy the PES Universe one, but i haven't got an email yet, well only to say i'm a silver member).
My new clubis Belgrano from Cordoba.

First match was against River Plate.
Took an early lead after 6 minutes with a fine goal.
But then it was all River...
To cuta long story short. I my GK plyed a fantasticmatch and River Plate missed quite a few sitters too.
Ended up winning 1-0 with lots of luck...

I've seen lots offouls in the friendly, less so in the ML match...

I like it enormously so far, but it's still early days...

 

[Chris Davies]

The biggest thing for me and its because of my OCD is that I need all the fake European teams sorted. Im happy to run a ML without the Bundesliga if it comes to it, as I can leave out the PEU leagues iirc. But I cant go into Europe and have Pabrowiestein in the groups... or seeing them sign up player after player.

I don't think that's OCD at all, I was gutted in an old PES save where my Champions League group was dominated by a team that doesn't even exist. All the official licensing and you've got Klitsesh Utd top of the league thanks to top-scorer Stan Portapotty and star midfielder Neil Jauntyhat.

Reminds me of these Key & Peele sketches (fast forward to 30 seconds, I'm pretty sure this is where Konami get their fake names from):

Spoiler

"Hingle McCringleberry"...

 

[pretty]

I want to clarify before I say it that I don't mean to offend anyone who has purchased an option file.

But the people charging for it are disgusting. There are already an abundance of FREE option files out there, there is no real reason to pay these "con-artists".

I appreciate that people are spending hours of their free time to give back to the community, but I feel a donation button would be more appropriate, and I'll be making a donation to the guys that are offering their work for free.

Anyway I feel their business model isn't going to be sustained long term simply due to the amount of alternative FREE option files there are. I'm not sure if I can link to other forums, but a quick google search will take you to one forum in particular where there are already a huge number of option files ready to download for FREE.

I understand some people are purchasing USB sticks because of the convenience and I can understand a small charge for that, but charging simply for the files? FUCK OFF

 

[geeeeee]

Jaysus Geeeee you've had a a bad 24 hrs there mate . . . .no game. . Spurs lost ... and no option file.

Yeh it was a bit of a sickener. Spurs were pretty poor defensively last night. But in the back of my mind, I recalled the days when I won the Champions League (or Master League Champions Cup or whatever it was called) back on PES5. Then I started thinking about PES2017 and trying to do the same on that. The point is no matter how rubbish your team does in real life it's the Master League that counts.

Heh heh I just remembered the time when I had scored a fantastic goal with Beckham on PES5. The next day I asked my work colleague if he saw the goal that Beckham scored the other day. When he said "he didn't score" I realised I had gotten real life and PES mixed up.

LOL.. poor old uncle Geeeee

Oi oi! Go to bed early and no PES for you today!

Working from home today, waiting for postman...If that git comes without my game things could get problematic for him...

We both support Tottenham and both have not received the game.

 

[Deco]

Scandinavia? Where did that idea came from deco? I'm from Indonesia, it's in south east Asia if you never heard of it

Of course I've heard of Indonesia . . .my cousin married a lovely Indonesian girl Pingkan a couple of years ago and they have a son. It's just Elja sounds Scandanavian like a cross between Elke and Helga or something. . . . . .sorry buddy don't take offence.

 

[Deco]

Yeh it was a bit of a sickener. Spurs were pretty poor defensively last night. But in the back of my mind, I recalled the days when I won the Champions League (or Master League Champions Cup or whatever it was called) back on PES5. Then I started thinking about PES2017 and trying to do the same on that. The point is no matter how rubbish your team does in real life it's the Master League that counts.

Heh heh I just remembered the time when I had scored a fantastic goal with Beckham on PES5. The next day I asked my work colleague if he saw the goal that Beckham scored the other day. When he said "he didn't score" I realised I had gotten real life and PES mixed up.



Oi oi! Go to bed early and no PES for you today!



We both support Tottenham and both have not received the game.

Ha ha you're losing it Geeee . .. .when I started playing Iss years ago I'd mentally be pressing square when a team on the telly was about to shoot.

 

[SilverSpider]

I like my physicals.

In my case, since I'm paying the full retail price I'd prefer it tangible. I don't mind buying digital for cheaper stuff. Plus I like keeping stuff for the future. You can say I'm a collector to a degree.

Exactly ... Also when the physical is £35 and the digital is £55, it just seems a no brainier to me.

Given the pricing of all new release digital titles, I'm surprised they sell any at all.

Oh, speaking of star players, I forgot to say, I tried MyClub this morning.

Upon logging on, I had 5 "special agents", 20,000 credits, and a super-duper loan player. I've now got a team with an average level of 84.

Why bother with the illusion of "you're going to have to work your way up and win tons of games to progress your team and buy new players", when as soon as you click the fucking "myClub" button, you've got a super-squad?

When they do this, you're nearly at the end of your journey (taking a piss-poor team and making them into giants) as soon as you start playing. Does nobody want to earn anything any more?

I hate the mode anyway, but at least in FUT you can choose to restrict yourself to "bronze"-level cup games etc. instead of having to use (and play against) nothing but Ronaldo-level players again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.

Between this and the standard online modes where everybody picks Barca\Real, it holds no interest for me even if it isn't laggy-as-balls again this year.

Thank God for the Master League.

The 'Millennial Generation' don't earn anything - they merely request things and they appear in their hands. ;-)

I get what you are saying though, as someone who first gamed on a ZX Spectrum in the 80's - I've always enjoyed earning things in games.

God back then just getting a game to load first time meant you had earned something before you even started the game.

As for playing Football games online with the masses - tried it with PES4 and then years later with FIFA 11 and others - It's just a no go for me as you are playing people that don't care about trying to create any realism or trying to digitally mimic the beautiful game.

They ONLY care about winning at all costs and if that means turning Football into an unrecognisable sport (something akin to Speedball 2) of hounding and pressing and physicality every time you get the ball as all they want is the ball back in their possession this instance, then they use cheap and unrealistic formation tactics that would never be used in real life, all to gain an unfair advantage.

Then if you can see past all that and them selecting Barca and Real EVERY game whilst you have selected a team like Ajaccio and god forbid you somehow manage to go 2-0 up ... they quit the game.

Nah, not for me all that jazz - dipped my toe in that water one too many times and it's always ... Freezing.

The thing is I will happily play plenty of other videogames online but with the 1 on 1 human player experience of a Football title - you need a like minded opponent in my mind, someone who wants to allow you possession at times, someone who is happy to pick Valenciennes, someone who cares about winning but first and foremost cares about trying to recreate the beautiful game in videogame form.

 

[god84]

At work atm... can anyone post a short clip of the updated Liverpool squad please?

 

[god84]

Exactly ... Also when the physical is £35 and the digital is £55, it just seems a no brainier to me.

Given the pricing of all new release digital titles, I'm surprised they sell any at all.



The 'Millennial Generation' don't earn anything - they merely request things and they appear in their hands. ;-)

I get what you are saying though, as someone who first gamed on a ZX Spectrum in the 80's - I've always enjoyed earning things in games.

God back then just getting a game to load first time meant you had earned something before you even started the game.

As for playing Football games online with the masses - tried it with PES4 and then years later with FIFA 11 and others - It's just a no go for me as you are playing people that don't care about trying to create any realism or trying to digitally mimic the beautiful game.

They ONLY care about winning at all costs and if that means turning Football into an unrecognisable sport (something akin to Speedball 2) of hounding and pressing and physicality every time you get the ball as all they want is the ball back in their possession this instance, then the use of cheap unrealistic formation tactics that what never be used in real life all to gain an unfair advantage.

Then if you can see past all that and them selecting Barca and Real EVERY game whilst you have selected a team like Ajaccio and god forbid you somehow manage to go 2-0 up ... They Quit the game.

Nah, not for me all that jazz - dipped my toe in that water one too many times and it's always ... Freezing.

The thing is I will happily play plenty of other videogames online but with the 1 on 1 human player experience of a Football title - you need a like minded opponent in my mind, someone who wants to allow you possession at times, someone who is happy to pick Valenciennes, someone who cares about winning but first and foremost cares about trying to recreate the beautiful game in videogame form.

This is why i dont like online games. Add me on ps4 if your on it. I like playing as many different teams!!

 

[Deco]

Hi guys, playing it, loving it best football game ever made, not enough time in my life, on manual , no option file yet because I can't sacrifice 18mins more of my players no time.

Not perfect, soundtrack sucks donkey balls.

Back to my new life in the basement with Jimmy forever. love you all. Bye

Lol . . . .. . Wishful thinking.

 

[aussiepesfan]

Live updates ROCK!!! Just started a league with Nice in Ligue1... Talk about BALOTELLI REBORN!! haha lethal shot on him.. different to any other player in the team... again, the variation in the teams/leagues im using is incredible.. Played some ACL earlier, followed by some SerieA action. And now this Ligue1... feels totally different.. amazing..

 

[romagnoli]

Thing is, my experience of PES 2016 online was pretty different. I only bought a copy in May, I got the digital version of Euro 2016, so maybe something changes over the months from release. But in any case, the vast majority of games were lag-free, with only a couple that really felt unplayable. Maybe 1 quit-out, I'd say.

I was playing as either Morocco (for an annual PES world cup my mates book out a pub for) or Monaco, against mostly Barca and Real. While I definitely had games where I'd get tonked, or a cheesy goal would spoil everything at the death, I also had a lot of games where I could play my way and adjust my tactics to rein the opposition in. It would take a lot of practice though, and I appreciate I didn't really play enough to end up that high in Online Seasons (division 6 I think?) so I didn't end up at that point where everybody's an arse.

I've not played MyClub really, I didn't enjoy having to play against Beginner / Amateur CPU teams lots at the start and I didn't really get into PES 2015 or 16 enough to give it a go. So we can't pick and choose who we sign anymore? Is it just those bronze, silver, gold or black balls? That was the best thing about MLO, weighing up options and seeing what I could get for my money...

 

[Deco]

FC Barcelona Legends Trailer

'Puyy-oll' .. .. .thought he got caught in his zipper the way he said that. .. . .pity the legends aren't in the normal modes.

 

[Final Pass]

I want to clarify before I say it that I don't mean to offend anyone who has purchased an option file.

But the people charging for it are disgusting. There are already an abundance of FREE option files out there, there is no real reason to pay these "con-artists".

I appreciate that people are spending hours of their free time to give back to the community, but I feel a donation button would be more appropriate, and I'll be making a donation to the guys that are offering their work for free.

Anyway I feel their business model isn't going to be sustained long term simply due to the amount of alternative FREE option files there are. I'm not sure if I can link to other forums, but a quick google search will take you to one forum in particular where there are already a huge number of option files ready to download for FREE.

I understand some people are purchasing USB sticks because of the convenience and I can understand a small charge for that, but charging simply for the files? FUCK OFF

Welll said mate, it's a disgrace isn't it?

By all means, have a donation link on your website, I'd happily give £5 to help support their work. But forcing people to pay is wrong.

 

[Chimps-with-quiffs]

E
The 'Millennial Generation' don't earn anything - they merely request things and they appear in their hands. ;-)

I get what you are saying though, as someone who first gamed on a ZX Spectrum in the 80's - I've always enjoyed earning things in games.

I remember football manager, director of football and the double on the spectrum. You had to start out managing in the fourth division. It seemed like a cheat when championship manager came along and let you select a team from the premier league straight away.

Also, getting the games to load was so hit and miss I would try all kinds, such as getting my mam to turn the hoover off downstairs or even stopping people from speaking

 

[shilts]

Just played as Real Madrid against Borussia Dortmund and was completely caught off-guard by Dortmund's style. When I had the ball they pressured my back line like you wouldn't believe. I panicked initially and starting lumping long balls forward. But when they won the ball from my forwards they kept pinging diagonal balls forward, mainly to Reus. They went 1-0 up. Eventually I got back my composure and started playing it out of defence, although there were some scary moments. Ronaldo equalised and it finished 1-1. Haven't had a game like that before, so different from my previous matches.

 

[chiefrocka4real]

PES 5 was my all time favorite PES, and loved PES 6 as well, so should definitely try it out then! Thanks. I think I'll get the PC version eventually, can't be bothered hooking the PS3 back up, hehe. No demo for the PC version though, which sucks, as I'm not 100% sure my PC's specs are good enough.

Without even knowing your rig, I´m sure it will be.
Unless you´re using a Pentium 3 with WIN 95 and a voodoo 3dgfx card still

Forgot to mention that in my yesterdays games the ref and fouls varied from game to game which I like a lot.
AI even got a red card.
What bugs me a bit is the odd throw in from the keeper.

Often when I wanna make a long throw with my keeper, he doesn´t throw it high over the other players like in earlier releases.
He´s throwing it like a frisbee flat over the pitch, no matter how long I pressed the X button.
It happened that my opponent who stood right out of the box received it and nearly scored.

Or am I doing something wrong?

Look at how shit FIFA is. Go to 11.30 into this game and see the how easy and non rewarding this goal from outside the box is

With all respect but your post totally sucks!
Why can´t you just be happy with this game, but have to bash the other one?

And if you can´t hold it, then use the PES vs FIFA thread FFS!

 

[Final Pass]

I remember football manager, director of football and the double on the spectrum. You had to start out managing in the fourth division. It seemed like a cheat when championship manager came along and let you select a team from the premier league straight away.

Also, getting the games to load was so hit and miss I would try all kinds, such as getting my mam to turn the hoover off downstairs or even stopping people from speaking

The ZX Speccy 128k was a magical computer! So many good games.