I didn't realize this to be the case to be honest... is this how it is in FIFA too or just PES?
No, I speak of PES 15 only from my experience. FIFA I don't touch really. I just wanted to have equal chances in Master League, and while my manual ML as Urawa Reds in J-League (PTE) was sheer domination most of the time, but I could get away without any transfers. I just did them to get players I like, since there is no team management in this game (somebody forgot stamina and injuries, y'know).
I personally don't ever expect PES to be any good online in the first place so I stick to to offline in PES but I found the demo enjoyable playing full manual however I didn't realize what you say is true though that stats don't mean nothing at that point.. are you sure about that? I didn't notice that..
Hey, I tried online, and while myClub itself is decent, I kept having dumb input lag problems, regardless of my Internet connection. Having to wait two-three seconds for player to react is just not fun. That being said, very few times things clicked for me and it was a fun experience.
Is this true? Maybe they have some influence over game, but it seems to be minimal. I mean, if I'm able to pull-off godlike passes with 2.5 stars Urawa Red Diamonds with average player overall of sth like 72 then something is definitely wrong. Once I learned how to operate with manual, 100% of my mistakes was down to me still not being good and missing passes, yes. As for shots it's just too damn easy. You can just launch a rocket without aiming in front of you, ball won't ever curl even sligthly, you can position yourself in front of the bar and shoot straight, you will always hit the goal.
I really loved manual shooting at once, the freedom aspect is huge, but then I realized I could do these things with literally everyone and yet again I was disappointed.
so from what your saying then I would have to play at the very least 1 support passing and advanced shooting for stats to matter in PES ? I dunno if that is true because I really don't notice it using full manual. because if this were true then it wouldn't make sense to me that I can shoot better with a player on full manual like Robben as I could with a lesser player and yes I could. You are acting when on manual shooting it's the same for every player no matter what their stats are and from my experience I have never noticed this. for me it's different... but maybe im wrong
My solution this year is to use no settings at all. This game and most of all this company is not worth my money. It's not even worth my time. All you guys got through last few days were disappointments after disappointments. I was sad, but not surprised. All I do these days is gather these facts and present them, to prove everyone this game is not worth anyone's money.
In all honesty with you, I don't notice stats effect with assisted either. If I managed to blast through Eredivisie and Champions League (switching between Top Player and Superstar) with Go Ahead Eagles on basic shooting and two bar passing and three-star team was enough. Ricky van Wolfswinkel was good enough to score 20-25 goals in Eredivisie, slay Chelsea or Manchster United.
However you mentioned Robben and this might be one of few exceptions with seeing stats. I guess it's player ID effect, that's why you see difference between the best, top players. Only thing is, I hate these teams, I don't play them at all. So everything below them is really the same.
Obviously perfect answer is manual influenced by stats. You get freedom to make the choice, but you need right people to do the wonders. Considering this company cannot make stamina, feature included in game for at least fifteen years work, I would not expect anything like this.
There ye go.
