PES 2016 News & Discussion Thread

I'd love them to transfer over the manager-player chemistry and play styles from myclub to ML. Would add a lot to ML after we create our manager with specific abilities and play styles and buying specific players suiting our system would make sense and have better outcome, instead of just buying anyone or all stars without much thought. So if we try forcing a transfer of a player we think is excellent but doesn't fit the system, he'd not be as effective and would complain a lot, ending up handing in a transfer request at some point :D This would also add to the loyalty a player has to a certain team.
 
pes has a problem of lack of fouls since pes 2014, there is definitely very rare occassions u have freekicks, fouls etc, so two things absolutely need to be fixed.
1-net physics, a problem since pes 2012, awful just awful net physics.
2-lack of fouls, and i've said it before and i ll say it again.
3-responsive movement in tight spaces or inside the area, this is key area in which fifa really is miles apart, responsiveness and animations inside tight spaces.
now people who are gonna complain at me when i am talking negatively about the game, need to remember that hiding behind a finger and saying that the game has no negatives is so wrong and undermining, because simply these things have started with pes 2012 especially the net physics.
 
pes has a problem of lack of fouls since pes 2014, there is definitely very rare occassions u have freekicks, fouls etc, so two things absolutely need to be fixed.
1-net physics, a problem since pes 2012, awful just awful net physics.
2-lack of fouls, and i've said it before and i ll say it again.
3-responsive movement in tight spaces or inside the area, this is key area in which fifa really is miles apart, responsiveness and animations inside tight spaces.
now people who are gonna complain at me when i am talking negatively about the game, need to remember that hiding behind a finger and saying that the game has no negatives is so wrong and undermining, because simply these things have started with pes 2012 especially the net physics.

I believe the 3rd point isn't an issue in PES 2016.
 
greaT GOALS INDEED, BUT MY MAN, IN NO WAY , PES 2014 PLAYS LIKE THAT IF NOT HEAVILY TWEAKED, EVEN THE CAMERA U NEED TO UNLOCK IT TO HAVE THIS CAMERA, BECAUSE ON THE DEFAULT CAMERAS THE GAMEPLAY ISNT EVEN HALF AS GOOD, PROBLEM IS THAT THE GAME IS UNRESPONSIVE DUE TO THE HEAVE AMOUNT OF ANIMATIONS U CANT PLAY PES 2014 LIKE THIS AND GET THESE GOALS WITHOUT HEAVILY TWEAKING THE GAME, AND THAT IS A HEADACHE TO GET DONE.
 
EB Australia confirmed to me that pes2016 will go on sale (be available to buy in store) on the Thursday 17th Sept.. which is pretty much Wednesday 16th in most places around the world including the UK. JBHIfi will probably have it same day.. big w wont sell it (that's what the guy told me), and target/kmart maybe (ill ring in a few days earlier).. not getting it online this time round :)
 
Net physics are fine in the demo.................BUT have you seen the steel cages in the my club trailer????

Those nets are awful..I wonder......just wonder if we have a great demo followed by an inferior full release.............??
 
I'd love them to transfer over the manager-player chemistry and play styles from myclub to ML. Would add a lot to ML after we create our manager with specific abilities and play styles and buying specific players suiting our system would make sense and have better outcome, instead of just buying anyone or all stars without much thought. So if we try forcing a transfer of a player we think is excellent but doesn't fit the system, he'd not be as effective and would complain a lot, ending up handing in a transfer request at some point :D This would also add to the loyalty a player has to a certain team.

Simple and great

Problem is the pedigree of player we have these days they would be unhappy not being able to sport a team containing Messi, Cronaldo Neymar, Robben, Moura, Ibrahimovic and Hazard and not win every game 49-0

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Anyone complaining about responsiveness on PES 2016 is on crack
 
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PES 2017 really needs a overhaul of bells and whistles. The gameplay is at a state where it only need to go back to PS 2013 level responsivness with another animation upgrade to support that level of sensitivty and responsivness, witht he rest just remaining as it is.

The manager idea are great and i think need to be implemented again just like In 2012-13. We need different animation sets for players of different body shapes and races.
 
The first one also not anymore.
To me, at least.
Bro net physics need a complete overhaul, the way the net behave while sustaining a shot in the middle of the goal is atrocious, it doesnt move and only moves when the ball hits it it doesnt keep procedural movement, fifa nets are far better and have a realistic behaviour. Watch a real football match and see how the whole net moves when a goal is in i dont know why they messed up the good net physics in 2011 i dont mean loseness or tightness but i mean the movement of the whole net.
 
Net physics are fine in the demo.................BUT have you seen the steel cages in the my club trailer????

Those nets are awful..I wonder......just wonder if we have a great demo followed by an inferior full release.............??

Hmmm, yeah strange.
But we don't know what build they used in the trailer.
I doubt that we are gonna get the steel cages back in the full game.

But, well this is KONAMI :)

Bro net physics need a complete overhaul, the way the net behave while sustaining a shot in the middle of the goal is atrocious, it doesnt move and only moves when the ball hits it it doesnt keep procedural movement, fifa nets are far better and have a realistic behaviour. Watch a real football match and see how the whole net moves when a goal is in i dont know why they messed up the good net physics in 2011 i dont mean loseness or tightness but i mean the movement of the whole net.

I fully agree! PES 2011 had the best ones, no doubt.
But in comparison from the E3 vids to the demo, it has been improved.
Now if they'll be like this in the full game, I'm ok, as I really hated that steel cageish non movement crap.
But yeah, there's still room for improvement and PES 2011 net physics in PES 2016 would be off the hook!!
 
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Anyone here feels that the advanced through ball is more assisted than basic through ball.
I play on full manual and it seems you need to play advanced through to be deemed as a "full manual" player. Fine, but I feel that basic through ball option enables me to spray balls to open space more effectively. Advance through balls always takes a freak inside curve, as of the intended target is a magnet pulling the ball towards it. Some observations are :

Advanced through ball....

1. Lobbed through balls sometimes work. A simple tap might send the ball flying out of the field sometimes , sometimes it's very weak.

2. Players never use their weak feet. They always try inside curve.

3. Ball seems to be attracted towards the nearest player even if we try to spray the ball to an open space.

Would love to hear some opinions. I feel that basically if you get a knack of how to position your player before hitting an advanced through ball, it's so easy. Too often I find the target player pulling the ball towards him like magnet (ground through balls only, not lobbed). Especially from wings to the penalty area.
 
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:( No new features?

There's 100s of things that could be done with both games in terms of their career modes, from the complicated to the blindingly simple. It's horribly overlooked, but it's not monetised (other than the price of the actual game itself), so it's way down the priority list.

But they could so easily monetise career mode if that's what's holding it back. All the elements of UT and MyClub that require grinding, add it to career mode /ML and add a quick buy now option.

They can increase the difficulty of signing the best players and then sell packs of boost cards that you can earn for free over time or buy. Things like increase chance of successful signing to 100% and rich owner takeovers. Injury free seasons, training boosts, chemistry boosts etc..

All this shit that kids love but we would mostly avoid.

They get cash.
We get a more in depth, difficult career mode/ML that requires grinding, but in the way it makes sense. Like transfer negotiations that drag on and on... You can buy a card that wnds the transfer there and ŷou get them. With the game being harder the kids will appreciate how difficult it is to sign bale, messi, ronàldo and co and so will use the cards.
Us lot will enjoy the challenge and seek out alternatives and when you do sign a superstar you'll appreciate it more And hate yourself if they turn out incompatabile and play like shit. Here the kids buy another boost card to fix that... We grind the chemistry up or try to sell them and recoup the money.
 
Anyone here feels that the advanced through ball is more assisted than basic through ball.
I play on full manual and it seems you need to play advanced through to be deemed as a "full manual" player. Fine, but I feel that basic through ball option enables me to spray balls to open space more effectively. Advance through balls always takes a freak inside curve, as of the intended target is a magnet pulling the ball towards it. Some observations are :

Advanced through ball....

1. Lobbed through balls sometimes work. A simple tap might send the ball flying out of the field sometimes , sometimes it's very weak.

2. Players never use their weak feet. They always try inside curve.

3. Ball seems to be attracted towards the nearest player even if we try to spray the ball to an open space.

Would love to hear some opinions. I feel that basically if you get a knack of how to position your player before hitting an advanced through ball, it's so easy. Too often I find the target player pulling the ball towards him like magnet (ground through balls only, not lobbed). Especially from wings to the penalty area.

I think that advanced through ball is broken in the demo compared to 2015 full game or maybe they imported new mechanics to pull it. I play on full manual too and I don't know why but advanced through ball fells like normal x button pass to me, i speak about ground passes
for long through balls i use L1+R2+O. I expect full game to bring little tweaks including more fouls but I hope they will not bother like in 2015
 
I think that advanced through ball is broken in the demo compared to 2015 full game or maybe they imported new mechanics to pull it. I play on full manual too and I don't know why but advanced through ball fells like normal x button pass to me, i speak about ground passes
for long through balls i use L1+R2+O. I expect full game to bring little tweaks including more fouls but I hope they will not bother like in 2015
Yeah I think it's completely broken... watch this :

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iL3rxNJtawE
 
Yeah I think it's completely broken... watch this :

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iL3rxNJtawE

yeah I know about that, that`s why I said it was broken. I hope they will fix it in the full game.

Guys today I boot up pes demo on pc monitor and the game is much slower even on 0 speed, when I played on TV is much faster, why is that? maybe becouse tv is larger than monitor and I have to sit far from it?
 
Try PC mode or game mode on your TV and remove all picture and motion enhancements.

They only add input lag and make the game movement feel artificially fluid.
 
played a few game with my bro on assisted, scoring goals feels even more completely soulless to be honest than against cpu. too bad since the midfield battle is a delight!
 
Is this the first time we are getting news this late about ML, cos it could be two things, one there not confident and ML is broken and there trying to sort shit out, or its gonna be fkn amazing and they don't want EA to get a chance to look and incorporate into there game.
 
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Is this the first time we are getting news this late about ML, cos it could be two things, one there not confident and ML is broken and there trying to sort shit out, or its gonna be fkn amazing and they don't want EA to get a chance to look and incorporate into there game.
:D Yes!

They don't care about ML now. MyClub is their cash cow and what the kids want.
:( No.
 
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