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PC PES 2014 discussion thread

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im really enjoying this game now i am learning how to play it, slowly..the player movement is superb

if they can fix these issues for me the modders can do the rest and this will be my game of choice

Manual shooting - for some reasons it works in training mode but during a game first time shots and headers in the area don't work - v strange - i have had a few lay offs and first time shots out of the area and works fine

Catch up bug - its annoying (someone released a mod with xbox gameplay and it was even worse for me on that)

GK - far better than other PES's but still have some dodgy moments and decision making - just had one game and the AI GK was 5 yards away from ball as it was heading out of the box on the wing. He chased and as soon as it rolled out of the area he just stood still as though going out of the area to hood it away was not allowed.

More fouls would be nice although ive just gone up a level in difficulty and seen some more slide tackles.

Also getting used to off the ball runs using right stick - great feature, was in 13 but seems better to me this year
 
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hitmanuk said:
Catch up bug - its annoying (someone released a mod with xbox gameplay and it was even worse for me on that)
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I am fairly sure this is not a bug as it was designed this way. I agree that it's terrible, especially when you see Mertesacker catching up to Lennon who is through on keeper time and again. But if there was no defender catch up implemented at all, the game would be piss easy with a few quick players up front.
 
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ZeroTheHero said:
I am fairly sure this is not a bug as it was designed this way. I agree that it's terrible, especially when you see Mertesacker catching up to Lennon who is through on keeper time and again. But if there was no defender catch up implemented at all, the game would be piss easy with a few quick players up front.
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That says something about the design of the gameplay. It's not very realistic. At least not that area of it.
 
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ZeroTheHero said:
At the end of the day, when playing a match all stadiums looks the same. All you see is a green field... so as long as there are one stadium I'm satisfied. I am more annoyed by the new faces as everyone looks like clones with different skin colors. The best visual improvement is the hair, most of them looks great but in all fairness the hair in PES2013 and older was utterly ugly or worse.
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I disagree with this. I think there's a notable difference in how the game feels that's caused by the stadium. But that said, this is PES and that issue is fixed easily.
 
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Indeed, the game plays differently on San Siro than KONAMI stadium.

But, this might be down to a) pitch quality, b) turf quality/watering.

Dunno. I believe in real life, if you asked footballers, they would tell you there is difference between playing on different stadiums...

:P
 
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info0 said:
Indeed, the game plays differently on San Siro than KONAMI stadium.

But, this might be down to a) pitch quality, b) turf quality/watering.

Dunno. I believe in real life, if you asked footballers, they would tell you there is difference between playing on different stadiums...

:P
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In games like PES, there feels like a difference because of the distance between the crowd and the pitch. It could just be me but either way, I feel that there is a difference and that's why I feel that its better to have more stadiums.
 
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And yes, the pitch quality also has an effect. A good pitch makes me want to pass the ball around, a bad one makes me want to play long ball.
 
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Just decided to give this years PES a go (after switching to *another footie game* for the past 2 years or so)...

Did my usual drill:
1) added a very badly modeled version of myself into the game
2) added myself to preferred team
3) start ML with preferred team

After 2-3 matches... I notice pretty much the entire team is playing like a bunch of geriatrics early in the match. After bringing up the game plan, it looks like everyone in the team basically did a marathon before the match after being on hunger strike for a week.

I remember (or at least I think I remember) in earlier PES/WE games, there was an option to turn off fatigue in ML. After 10 minutes of hunting... I couldn't find it in game. Has it been removed? The game is somewhat frustrating on higher levels, but it gets much worse when you are playing 80 year old players and the opposition has a bunch of teenagers.
 
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defade said:
Disable your antivirus :) Disabling avast worked for me.
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If you'd rather not disable your whole Antivirus, I've worked out that I just needed to add pes2014.exe to the Web Shield exclusion (under individual shield settings for Avast) and this worked just as well.

P.S. I'm pretty sure it's not my imagination, but even though I play at game speed 0, I find that playing online (either half, so not lag issue) runs at a slower speed (Master League default line-up vs MLO default, so should be a fair comparison). Anybody else noticed this or am I just having an adrenalin rush due to the joy of human competition or something!
 
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Im starting to get use to the gameplay now and i have to admit i am having some good matches. There are still issues like the GK for example but its growing on me.

One weird thing, i seem to have lost the mosaic in the crowd for stadium like Old Trafford or Allianz Arena. Anyone manage to fix this?
 
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*aLe said:
Reading some of the posts in here makes clear to me why they don't want PC people to try the game before buying it.
Now this is getting annoying: not only you provide an unfinished product which (from what I read and not only here) has a ton of issues still waiting to be addressed, but you don't even let people try it to decide if it's worth buying anyway.

How do you expect me to decide whether to buy the game or not, by judging if the font used on the front cover looks good?
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In my opinion, ton of issue is exaggerating.. ;)
 
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Too much exaggerating. This is so f..king good, I just can't stop playing it. Now, I almost remember all new controls and it's such a joy to play it now, even the first touch combinations and tricks. Of course playing on manual without auto-feint. I've just done it in perfect timing:
YouTube - ribery xvid
 
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Northzzz said:
Alright I'll bite. The game isn't finished or if it is then in certain departments Konami have done a terrible job. It's playable and at times really good but there's a bad odour about it.

Defensively - arguably the most crucial part of the game - it's a mess a lot of the time. Honestly, you can get past it with a bit of forethought but sometimes you just can't. You can spam B to clear but your players still want to take touches when they shouldn't need to. Sometimes they lack complete awareness and you know the sad thing is that's only countered by the attackers complete lack of awareness too.

Also, what seemed like interesting middle battles often translates into players just running into each other, knocking the ball into different directions and not reacting to it afterwards, with you often having to get a player further away to go for it. I can see what they were going for but it's not very good really because you lack an ability to shield the ball now they've changed what R2 does. You can't really protect the ball unless the game does it for you. Sometimes it works well, sometimes it doesn't at all.

Is the PC version different to the console game? I've heard some people remark that they think the game reactions are worse on PC.
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It's so frustrating because without the button lag, this game would have some serious potential. Because of the lag, it just feels clumsy.
 
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Interesting those saying its an unfinished product. Come on when was any PES version ever released finished ?

It has several issues but am sure we will all go a long way to sorting that out.
Its always required the community to make a better product worth having. Right back from the days of edited option files with just correct kits, logos & badges inserted.

Am sure many people simply don't have the right spec PC to support
the game properly. Its always been like that and needs different tweaks for different rigs, there is no middle line where its installed & instantly spot on for everyone
 
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Olee olee olee :BOP:
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Hold R3(right stick) to lift the ball and then left stick press to behind and repeat that.
 
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A couple of things I find annoying after a some time with the game:
1) offensive headers/first time shots missing (is this fixed in 1.1? I haven't updated)
2) fatigue seems to be magnified in this PES... which makes it annoying when opposing players just walk by with what appears to be full stamina and nick the ball off you...
3) I have to tug and pull and bump opposing players to even have a chance at getting the ball off them... they pick their nose while walking past and get the ball off me...
4) Com player runs between 2 of my defenders and gets a shot on goal... Me trying to run by a com defender results in hitting a brick wall, falling over, leaving the ball behind 90% of the time.
5) Com player sticks out a standing tackle, my player has rubber legs and falls over himself... My player standing tackles a com player, the guy doesn't even notice and keeps on going.

I'm sure there's more that I just haven't discovered. I think I'll probably just hawk this game to an unsuspecting friend for a discount after I've enjoyed enough frustration at the hands of PES which will probably be a couple of days time.
 
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Hawke said:
This mod has helped me a lot with response times/cursor change... you need to use Jenkey's file loader in order to use this...

http://www.evo-web.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=2785991&postcount=234
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i tired that earlier and didn't like it at all, saw more keeper mistakes (palming out - maybe if the have changed the ball physics) and also the catch up bug seemed far more obvious and more often
 
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7 matches online (always as Lazio): 2 Barcelona, 1 Spain and 4 Real Madrid...
No lag so far, happy about that!
 
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ojejku said:
Too much exaggerating. This is so f..king good, I just can't stop playing it. Now, I almost remember all new controls and it's such a joy to play it now, even the first touch combinations and tricks. Of course playing on manual without auto-feint. I've just done it in perfect timing:
YouTube - ribery xvid
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Perfect colours and contrast - how did you get it ?
 
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Gyus - it is just my illusion whether nets in Pro 14 on Xbox / PS are tighter than on PC?
 
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The game is really unplayable with the current response time on the controller, tried downloading the file above and we'll see what happens!
 
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lucagian said:
7 matches online (always as Lazio): 2 Barcelona, 1 Spain and 4 Real Madrid...
No lag so far, happy about that!
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Really?

Have you tried making a lobby match. I've only played against Spain once. I think it's just ranked games where people want to win and hence pick the best teams.
 
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Has anyone who bought the game from gamingdragons tried PESEDIT patch yet?
I installed it and got a force close.
 
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bluetrail said:
That says something about the design of the gameplay. It's not very realistic. At least not that area of it.
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It wouldn't be realistic if you could just speed through the defense all the time either. I think they should limit the catch up to players having near the same top speed as the player in possession's dribble speed though. In real life, slow defenders pick out space and/or rely on cover in these situations.. not sure how hard it would be to implement properly.
 
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