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PC PES 2014 discussion thread

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thereplicant said:
The new pesedit patch is amazing, just played two games off BPL games there, first one was Newcastle V Swansea, really tight game Michu put Swansea ahead with 5 mins to go then I scored a cracking header with Ameobi in injury time to equalise, i actually jumped out my chair it was that realistic. Second game I played Chelsea V Arsenal another great tight game and I finally managed to score with 2 mins to go with Eto'o. The game is brilliant despite what other folks say. If I could only get that gameplay whislt playing online I would be over the moon.
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I just played 3 matches and the only word I can say this is just amazing. From hater to lover, I was so wrong. Now I even got used to this slight delay/lag when I switch players in defense. It's SO real I can't stop playing it, those contextual collisions/animations are just unbelievable.
 
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i can't buy any players in Master League Online.
it says there is an error comunicating to PES2014 server and after another error: cannot retrieve player list.
does this happen to anybody else?
 
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I think most of the performance problems lie in the frame skip being on by default, and the overlays being limited to 30fps, figure away to turn off frame skip and put the overlays at 60fps and i suspect the game will run better.

personally i like the game a lot, having problems heading like others seem to on manual shooting, i would like the game to be a little more responsive, but i don't mind it the way it is right now. The player change need sharpening up though, that's for sure...

Overall Gameplay id give a solid 8.5 (knocking .5 off for headers, overall package i would give it a 7.5 (for being optimized out of the box, really poor licences)

Patches to fix the performance bugs (if this happens, i don't have any faith in Konami though), and fan mods will make it a solid 9 when they are done.
 
footyfan said:
I think most of the performance problems lie in the frame skip being on by default, and the overlays being limited to 30fps, figure away to turn off frame skip and put the overlays at 60fps and i suspect the game will run better.
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I'm confused as to why the v-sync and frame skipping options were removed from the settings.exe? Doesn't make sense at all.

V-sync seems to be on by default? I wonder if modders can access these options buried away in the game code somewhere.
 
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footyfan said:
I think most of the performance problems lie in the frame skip being on by default, and the overlays being limited to 30fps, figure away to turn off frame skip and put the overlays at 60fps and i suspect the game will run better.

personally i like the game a lot, having problems heading like others seem to on manual shooting, i would like the game to be a little more responsive, but i don't mind it the way it is right now. The player change need sharpening up though, that's for sure...

Overall Gameplay id give a solid 8.5 (knocking .5 off for headers, overall package i would give it a 7.5 (for being optimized out of the box, really poor licences)

Patches to fix the performance bugs (if this happens, i don't have any faith in Konami though), and fan mods will make it a solid 9 when they are done.
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I totally agree. The cut-scenes and the formation after the match starts are acting exactly the same way it would when I turned on "frame skipping" in PES 2012 and 13.

We need to have them put back the option in the settings.exe :/

Edit: @Jamezinho, yes, v-sync is definitely on by default cause I don't get screen tearing even though it's set to "application controlled" in the control panel. So I guess we can assume FS is on by default as well. It sure acts like it.
 
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The difference SweetFX can make. Unplayable without it now, for me...

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This above is default, unmodified vanilla game.

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After some editing... O_O

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Jaysus!
 
sportyfox said:
I totally agree. The cut-scenes and the formation after the match starts are acting exactly the same way it would when I turned on "frame skipping" in PES 2012 and 13.

We need to have them put back the option in the settings.exe :/

Edit: @Jamezinho, yes, v-sync is definitely on by default cause I don't get screen tearing even though it's set to "application controlled" in the control panel. So I guess we can assume FS is on by default as well. It sure acts like it.
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I assumed so because otherwise I should be hitting something crazy like 200fps!

Come on Konami, patch these settings back in. No v-sync and frame skipping is crazy.

Konami need to be informed.
 
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Jamezinho said:
I assumed so because otherwise I should be hitting something crazy like 200fps!

Come on Konami, patch these settings back in. No v-sync and frame skipping is crazy.

Konami need to be informed.
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Who is gonna do it? It would be awesome if someone with a twitter account would let them know about this. Or as you said it can be fixed with a mod unless it is hard coded into the exe or something. But still the official fix would be ideal.
 
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There is something funny. Even on Windowed mode the game caps max at refresh rate. I have my monitor set to 75Hz refresh rate and game maxes out at 75 FPS in game.

Crazy. Though when replays/intro to the match is rendered, the game can drop to 40-45 causing massive stutter. :(

Bad optimization, anyone? Gameplay is fluid as hell though, which is most important thing I guess...
 
sportyfox said:
Who is gonna do it? It would be awesome if someone with a twitter account should let them know about this. Or as you said it can be fixed with a mod unless it is hard coded into the exe or something. But still the official fix would be ideal.
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I'm not sure Adam will give a single fuck about pc issues. Probably requires a petition among pc users to request fixes for all the issues posted in this thread, or for all of us to bombard Konami with emails.
 
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I forgot to mention that I switched back shooting manual to basic and it turned out that on basic controlled shooting works fine and finally headers work perfect, they are so natural, contextual just perfect. Forgive me video quality, I just scored my first header and I'm so proud of it ;)
YouTube - pes2014 2013 09 21 23 17 27 11 xvid
 
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Game is constantly locked at 60fps for me. Terrible tearing when the camera pans across the crowd ruins it though.
 
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Bombard Adam. He is community manager for fucking sake. He takes money for doing his job. He should be platform independent.

If there are issues to be addressed, POST it to HIM. He needs to pay attention. If not, there is good chance a lot of people will not buy PES next year, because issues are not being taken care of.

It's KONAMI fault for releasing unfinished product. It's up to them to fix it now...

Sadly, I don't have twitter account :(.
 
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The game files have an optional "FIFA" mode for AI defenders :P

/ @class auto
/ / Configuration options
{
//----------------------------------------------
/ / Basic data
//----------------------------------------------
"frontDist": 1.5,
"frontDistWidth": 1.5,

/ / 0: Distance adjustment with ball direction or reverse direction
/ / 1: Adjusting FIFA type in defeat of the stick
"delayType": 0
}
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Is this a dig from Konami? :LOL:
 
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Jamezinho said:
If v-sync is on by default then screen tear should not happen at all. If it's just a frame rate cap of 60hz then it will happen.

Interesting.
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I bet v-sync is on in his GPU control panel. You can still force it on or off in there and it'll effect the game although v-sync is on by default.
 
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Anyone gotten around this error with the patch? I'm using the Gaming Dragons version, and the right patch from Gaming Dragons. Have tried 3 clean installs, to no avail.

Everytime I try to run the patch I get this error: Error 1328: Error applying patch to file C:\Config.msi\PT573B.tmp

I can't even find that directory :(

Edit: Solved this problem - for Gaming Dragons peeps you have to run the patch from INSIDE your PES 2014 directory, which isn't immediately obvious.

However. It finally ran happily (yay!) and then PES2014.exe disppeared after it finished. F*cking wonderful. Settings.exe still works fine, and all data files there. But no damn application to run the game. The f*ck?!
 
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Small annoyance with player ratings at the end of the game. They still go from 1 to 8.

Although the lowest I have seen was 4.5 I believe. So 4.5-8.0

Really, in PES3-6 era it went from 1 to 10. In FIFA it goes from 1 to 10 with 0.1 precision... So KONAMI why you cannot do it right? O_o

It's not a game breaker, but annoying, when your guy scores a hattrick and gets 7 rating. WTF?!
 
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info0 said:
Small annoyance with player ratings at the end of the game. They still go from 1 to 8.

Although the lowest I have seen was 4.5 I believe. So 4.5-8.0

Really, in PES3-6 era it went from 1 to 10. In FIFA it goes from 1 to 10 with 0.1 precision... So KONAMI why you cannot do it right? O_o

It's not a game breaker, but annoying, when your guy scores a hattrick and gets 7 rating. WTF?!
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Here's the contents of the file with the formulas to calculate rating:
/ @class auto
/ / Configuration options
{
//ゴール関係*****************************************************************************

People / goals scored
"goalRate":"(3.0 + (ShootDist() / 32.0) * (-3.0) + (IsInframeShoot() *4.0))",
I have og / person
"ownGoalRate":"(-1.0) * (3.0 + (ShootDist() / 32.0) * (-3.0) + (IsInframeShoot() *4.0))",
/ Assist the people
"goalAssistRate":"2.0 * PassDist() / 40.0 * 7.0 * 0.5",



//ドリブル関係***************************************************************************
"dribbleRate":"1.0",



//シュート関係***************************************************************************

/ / Shoot the people
"shootRate":"(3.0 + (ShootDist() / 32.0) * (-3.0) + (IsInframeShoot() *4.0))",
People assisted in / shoot
"shootAssistRate":"2.0 * PassDist() / 40.0 * 7.0 * 0.5",

Because he / / keeper
"shootSaveRate":"1.0",



//パス関係********************************************************************************

"passRate":"1.0",



//カット関係******************************************************************************

"cutRate":"1.0",



//ファウル、オフサイド関係****************************************************************

The offside / person
"offsideRate":"1.0",
Adding value to the defenders when you took the http:// offside
"offsideGetRate":"1.0",

The foul / person
"foulRate":"1.0",
The foul / person
"foulGetRate":"1.0"
}
 
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superleeds1 said:
You should not have any issues with that, why use no crowd patch though?
Most want to use it when graphic card is not up to spec.
I use a GTX 570 and its as smooth as silk.
What resolution do you play in?
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I asssumed it was my graphics card because of the incredible lag on replays, but it happens with and without the crowds. I alternate between 1080p and 2560x1080. I'm still getting that slowdown on occasion though.

Edit: I've turned on Vsync in the NVIDIA control panel and that seems to have fixed it. I wonder why Konami removed it this year. The replays are still terribly laggy though.
 
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I asssumed it was my graphics card because of the incredible lag on replays, but it happens with and without the crowds. I alternate between 1080p and 2560x1080. I'm still getting that slowdown on occasion though.
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It must be a Nvidia card issue, because in my case (GT 620), FPS went from 60 ingame (OK) to 30-40 in cutscenes (OK with this GPU) to 10-15 when looking to the stadium, both with crowd and without crowd (WTF?). C'mon this game is not Battlefield 4 to run this bad.
 
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Alright I'll bite. The game isn't finished or if it is then in certain departments Konami have done a terrible job. It's playable and at times really good but there's a bad odour about it.

Defensively - arguably the most crucial part of the game - it's a mess a lot of the time. Honestly, you can get past it with a bit of forethought but sometimes you just can't. You can spam B to clear but your players still want to take touches when they shouldn't need to. Sometimes they lack complete awareness and you know the sad thing is that's only countered by the attackers complete lack of awareness too.

Also, what seemed like interesting middle battles often translates into players just running into each other, knocking the ball into different directions and not reacting to it afterwards, with you often having to get a player further away to go for it. I can see what they were going for but it's not very good really because you lack an ability to shield the ball now they've changed what R2 does. You can't really protect the ball unless the game does it for you. Sometimes it works well, sometimes it doesn't at all.

Is the PC version different to the console game? I've heard some people remark that they think the game reactions are worse on PC.
 
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Dont wanna be negative but wouldnt put it past Konami to do something like not fix the problems on the PC version of the game, they already punished PC players by not releasing demo (had they released a demo they would've got feedback about bugs a LOT sooner and we'd have a patch sooner than we "may" get)

Suicidal decision by Konami really to not release a PC demo :/
 
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Anyone know how to add more music in the game?
 
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