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PES 2014 Discussion Thread

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foreverbanned said:
http://youtu.be/HTWGDaq6AWY

he passed the first one pure speed (video starts just 1 sec after that) and then the second one with a nice little touch, he went on and took a third guy before the got tackle by the forth one.


it's 02:30...so sry for the quality and i had to cut a bit because utube takes ages with my providers...
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You are not showing anything in this video. You have to show us a video of Ribery as example running side by side and gaining meters and maintaining the distance, not living players behind ( and in your video the 2 first players just stopped)
 
h3li0 said:
You are not showing anything in this video. You have to show us a video of Ribery as example running side by side and gaining meters and maintaining the distance, not living players behind ( and in your video the 2 first players just stopped)
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do you think in real football players (midfielders and forward) keep chasing down a faster player forever? it's not like kids in park all running after the ball, once u can't catch a faster player u will give up and position yourself.

anyway, tonite i'll try posting a clearer video, but there is no catch up speed bug, the "catch up" is more two players contending the ball and joystling. If u have some space in front of you and have players like ribery and ronaldo and messi u can really be lethal.

As i said, people hardly read the command manual. Spriting need double r1 to get the extra burst. that's the trick and all problems solved.

At first i found the game slow and bit sluggish, now that i learned how to play i found it a bit too fast (On 0) and very realistic in movements, especially when turning around. i fear Konami might listen to the noob community and take steps toward an arcade game ala sensible soccer. I am afraid real players are the minority, people wanto to go coast to coast and turn around at 1000 mile per hour.
 
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@Adam_Bhatti : The cool new addition? Well, not only can you now add 3rd kits to unlicensed teams...you can add 4th kits too!!!! :O #PES2014
 
robbieryan said:
agreed. i always play 15 minutes.

I've always found it interesting about the length of time of matches we as football game consumers have become accustomed to. it must be really hard for konami to condense a games worth of events (goals, fouls, yellow cards) into a shorter time frame than a normal match yet try and go for a realistic approach. if you played a 90 minute game of PES the score would end up being 18-12 or something.
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It's a really tough thing to do, I imagine. I think that's why there has always been an element of scripting to the gameplay in PES, otherwise recreating the ebb and flow of a real match with all that entails would be incredibly difficult within such a small timeframe.

The standard ten minute match isn't going to go away as I'm guessing it is the most popular match length, particularly with casual players. Those that play 15 minute matches or longer are in the minority so it's going to be interesting to see how PES is received this year with this in mind. Expect plenty of comments about being difficult to score and boring.
 
MUFan23 said:
@Adam_Bhatti : The cool new addition? Well, not only can you now add 3rd kits to unlicensed teams...you can add 4th kits too!!!! :O #PES2014
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rather fill up the CL/EL roster with extra fake teams so we can create all the participants to ourselfs



btw this is really good knews, wouldnt say shocking since Fifa has this for years but looks like they really listen to our words:))
 
MUFan23 said:
@Adam_Bhatti : The cool new addition? Well, not only can you now add 3rd kits to unlicensed teams...you can add 4th kits too!!!! :O #PES2014
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If only it was implemented wisely (e.g. the way it's done in FIFA, but maybe including also fonts and numbers as opposed to FIFA in which there are entries in the main DB for any kit that sort the font/number management) and it worked also on consoles, it would be a (little) revolution! :-D
 
Jamezinho said:
Good for the Turkish clubs.
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I was thinking more to "exploit" that feature to enable kit mixing (the same I did in FIFA12): 1st, 2nd and 3rd kits are used as they should, then the 4th and the (possibly) following ones are used as "home with alternate shorts", "away with alternate shorts" and so on :-D
 
It's quite some contrast: Some teams have 4 original kits and others have none :CONFUSE:

I am waiting for online news and news about BAL/Masterleague mode.
Why are they so late with it? I asume the game has already gone gold, so I don't think they make last minutes changes.
What are they waiting for to give the info?
 
foreverbanned said:
As i said, people hardly read the command manual. Sprinting need double r1 to get the extra burst. that's the trick and all problems solved.
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Yep. And what's really sad, this double-tap feature is in the game for years now. Not like Konami reinvented the wheel this year
 
Han said:
It's quite some contrast: Some teams have 4 original kits and others have none :CONFUSE:

I am waiting for online news and news about BAL/Masterleague mode.
Why are they so late with it? I asume the game has already gone gold, so I don't think they make last minutes changes.
What are they waiting for to give the info?
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umm licenced teams have 3 kits
unlicenced teams have 4 kits

and this 4th kit feature is also a last minute change
 
zlac said:
Yep. And what's really sad, this double-tap feature is in the game for years now. Not like Konami reinvented the wheel this year
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indeed, what happened is that konami redesigned the relationship ball-runner and u get probably less speed in normal r1 situation but more ball control, especially when opponent is close and he can grab u and slow u down.

now just with varying angles and speed variation u can pass defenders, quite a beauty tbh, no need for bullshit tricks or unrealistically fast supermen. Counterattacking with ribery is amazing, give him some space and he can be a killer.

greatest gameplay ever indeed and with a low height (2-3) and a bit of zoom (3-4) and a bit of colour setting a hell of a great looking game too.

P.S.
probably extra kits slots are for CL/UEFA league, they surely can be used for fantasy kits for the many seasons u play the master league. it gets boring to see the same kits after 4/5 ml years.
 
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1. Interestingly you have a new shooting feature.. or setting. You have Basic and Manual as in last year, but this year you have also got "ADVANCED SHOOTING".. I think this is gonna be great for those who want that inbetween basic and manual. I tried it in the 'training menu', and basically its the same system as penalty shoot outs, but during open play. So you can actually point to the top or bottom (low trajectory shots)corners, and the harder you press the button the harder it will be shot, but the less accuracy... or more chance of it going 'not exactly where you want it to go'. With this is a circular aiming system, showing where you are aiming - hope there is an option for this to be removed.

2. Audio setting is awesome. I turn everything down in the settings about half way, eg. crowd, commentator etc.. and leave the "on field sounds" (its called something similar, but it includes kick noises and when players clash, including when a keeper catches the ball)..I then increase the overall TV volume via the tv controls = So much more realistic.. and it just gives that increased feeling of when you kick a ball, youre actually doing it... sound is a huge thing... in previous versions you could hardly here this over the crowd noise. Id love if they added a setting where you could tinker with vibration settings.. ie. goes off when you pass, but even more so when its a harder shot at goal etc.. or a volley... where there is more pressure felt on the foot in real life. Getting hammered in a tackle causing the controller to give u a real jolt would be great... Guess I could just go outdoors and have a real kick with the mates...


CalcioCalabrese said:
Thanks dude. Appreciate it.
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check following video for advanced shooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=g-high-u&v=8yLVcljGcXA&nomobile=1
at 5.50... so you can control trajectory of shooting if you select the advanced shooting method :)
 
Wilko22 said:
Random goal here, initially meant to strike it first time (out of pure frustration about not being able to break them down), but it bounced too high so Schweinsteiger took a touch then lobbed the keeper with this half-volleyed effort.

YouTube - PES 2014 Leaked Demo (PS3) - Schweinsteiger Lob
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Its muller who scored not schwiny. And that happens most of the time do to the input lag problem, first time shoots rarely came out. The player most of the times even if you have filled the bar does not do a first shoot, he stop first with a touch and then shoot. But let that alone it´s a great goal indeed, good lob, but poor poor goalkeeping cause he had the time to catch the ball.
 
h3li0 said:
Its muller who scored not schwiny. And that happens most of the time do to the input lag problem, first time shoots rarely came out. The player most of the times even if you have filled the bar does not do a first shoot, he stop first with a touch and then shoot. But let that alone it´s a great goal indeed, good lob, but poor poor goalkeeping cause he had the time to catch the ball.
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Haha, you're absolutely right, not sure why I was thinking of Schweinsteiger when I uploaded this, edited.
 
*aLe said:
I was thinking more to "exploit" that feature to enable kit mixing (the same I did in FIFA12): 1st, 2nd and 3rd kits are used as they should, then the 4th and the (possibly) following ones are used as "home with alternate shorts", "away with alternate shorts" and so on :-D
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Yes,great idea :BOP:

Also,this is superb cause of retro kits,etc :)
 
Han said:
It's quite some contrast: Some teams have 4 original kits and others have none :CONFUSE:

I am waiting for online news and news about BAL/Masterleague mode.
Why are they so late with it? I asume the game has already gone gold, so I don't think they make last minutes changes.
What are they waiting for to give the info?
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OT: Welcome back, buddy. Haven't seen your nick for quite a while now :)
 
aussiepesfan said:
2. Audio setting is awesome. I turn everything down in the settings about half way, eg. crowd, commentator etc.. and leave the "on field sounds" (its called something similar, but it includes kick noises and when players clash, including when a keeper catches the ball)..I then increase the overall TV volume via the tv controls = So much more realistic.. and it just gives that increased feeling of when you kick a ball, youre actually doing it... sound is a huge thing... in previous versions you could hardly here this over the crowd noise.
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I do essentially the same by setting the commentator and crowd noise down to 2 bars while keeping the PA announcer at 5 bars and the on field sounds at 10 bars. Love to hear the ball being kicked:))
 
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sir_poc said:
The massive problem was shooting. Some spastics play the game on zero passing assistance but there is nothing to say how you shoot in the settings. So some gaylords play the game on manual passing, but assistance shooting. IMO this is not only ridiculous but also goes against the spirit of manual play. Either the whole way or nothing IMO.
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Do you really believe that assisted shooting is as advantageous as assisted passing?

I'd have to disagree. Assisted passing gives a HUGE advantage against a zero pass player on every touch of the ball, assisted shots aren't even close to that sort of advantage, in fact they are not an advantage at all. In a manual passing game you get, like 5-10 shots off per game an they're very stat and balance/space dependent. Manual passing is dozens of ping pong, off balance, bullcrap passes per half.

You can't even compare.
 
theCRO said:
Do you really believe that assisted shooting is as advantageous as assisted passing?

I'd have to disagree. Assisted passing gives a HUGE advantage against a zero pass player on every touch of the ball, assisted shots aren't even close to that sort of advantage, in fact they are not an advantage at all. In a manual passing game you get, like 5-10 shots off per game an they're very stat and balance/space dependent. Manual passing is dozens of ping pong, off balance, bullcrap passes per half.

You can't even compare.
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Completely agree
assisted shooting is nowhere as assisted as passing
that said, i will try that advanced shot,i'm curious to see if it gives more variety compared to default shots
 
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