PES 2014 Discussion Thread

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Sedorfa said:
Last year complaints, damn the animations are so rigid in PES 2013 and so smooth in Fifa 13.
This year complaints, meh the game looks like slower Fifa with smaller ball.
It seems like you people are never happy.:FAIL:
In my honest opinion i think the game looks great taking into account current-gen limitations and if they improve player awarness we might have the best football game this generation.
Also it looks nothig like Fifa (PES 2014 actually has momentum/inertia,the ball is free with better physics and i can bet money the passing feels way better than Fifa).
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I agree....the Pes 2014 is leaps and bounds ahead of any Pes that was ever made.

We should stop complain on the minuscule stuff and be proud on how far the game has come not many can do that can to that on the first try. The game looks fantastic, animations are sublime, the players have actual Mass , this is why we see some players running past the ball everything needs to be timed.
 
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chrissimao said:
I agree....the Pes 2014 is leaps and bounds ahead of any Pes that was ever made.

We should stop complain on the minuscule stuff and be proud on how far the game has come not many can do that can to that on the first try. The game looks fantastic, animations are sublime, the players have actual Mass , this is why we see some players running past the ball everything needs to be timed.
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I think what helped was getting all the functional gameplay balance elements sorted first before sorting out the animations, so over this year was just about fine tuning everything together.

They knew they didn't have the budget yet for an new engine years ago and to wait until Kojima had Finalized his fox engine back in 2011 to start working on this game. I think they have been working on this since at least 2010, this is when they decided to start a fresh with 2011 with a rebuilt game on the old engine.

Last year anyone remember adam speaking about how PES 2014 would be 'next gen' and would have 3D kits and other stuff.

YouTube - PES 2011 teaser trailer
 
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klashman69 said:
It shows like I have said throughout, you just want everyone to agree with your own view and you feel the need to attack someone who doesn't share you view word for word.
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Again, stop with the projections bro, please. Of the two of us, you're the only one who has made this personal, calling me angry, unhappy, miserable (twice) and insecure. All I did was argue your claim that FIFA 13's so-called "sexy" animations somehow make the game less "real-football". They do not. FIFA's gameplay is simplistic, one-dimensional and "less real" because the game by design is geared towards casual gamers, much moreso than PES is. In fact about the only quality thing FIFA has going for it are the animations.
 
was giving this much thought last night. I am glad they are implementing heart, but why focus on this when they should focus on fatigue system instead. for years we have wanted this, the more you sprint the more tired the players should get, there touch should be off, and there shots weak. there ability to chase attackers with greater stamina should be evident. Why oh why have they not implementd this.

Also people on here rave about We9LE, there are good things about that game, and many bad things. The AI of the PC is incredible. They knock it around, on the ground, in the air, side to side, up and down, brilliant. The goals you score are a little more samey and the catch up bug is horrible... maybe a little too realistic in that sense... So bring back AI of WE9LE and we have a great footie game. Another problem with 2013 which I am seeing in this videos are the lack of defensive awareness. My mate and I have been playing 1 v 1 and its even apparent in those matches, really really frustrating to watch the defender just let the ball go by.....
 
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gomito#10 said:
was giving this much thought last night. I am glad they are implementing heart, but why focus on this when they should focus on fatigue system instead. for years we have wanted this, the more you sprint the more tired the players should get, there touch should be off, and there shots weak. there ability to chase attackers with greater stamina should be evident. Why oh why have they not implementd this.
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Could not agree more. That plus the player form feature is about as basic and arbitrary and detrimental to the gameplay as it gets, and nothing was ever done with that. Only saving grace is that one can turn off Heart apparently, so it shouldn't be an issue if it isn't implemented properly either.
 
gomito#10 said:
was giving this much thought last night. I am glad they are implementing heart, but why focus on this when they should focus on fatigue system instead. for years we have wanted this, the more you sprint the more tired the players should get, there touch should be off, and there shots weak. there ability to chase attackers with greater stamina should be evident. Why oh why have they not implementd this.

Also people on here rave about We9LE, there are good things about that game, and many bad things. The AI of the PC is incredible. They knock it around, on the ground, in the air, side to side, up and down, brilliant. The goals you score are a little more samey and the catch up bug is horrible... maybe a little too realistic in that sense... So bring back AI of WE9LE and we have a great footie game. Another problem with 2013 which I am seeing in this videos are the lack of defensive awareness. My mate and I have been playing 1 v 1 and its even apparent in those matches, really really frustrating to watch the defender just let the ball go by.....
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it would take 10 minutes to make AI play like any old pes game if we had a stat editor to use

YouTube - pes 6 PHOENIX PATCH napoli vs roma part 1

im seeing the same keeper animations there too
 
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maze32 said:
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Oh look it's that awful animation where the stupid keeper A.I. knocks the ball up in the air for the incoming striker to score. FFS Konami just make him deflect it over the bar like a real-life keeper would, how hard can that be to program.
 
Evil Star said:
Oh look it's that awful animation where the stupid keeper A.I. knocks the ball up in the air for the incoming striker to score. FFS Konami just make him deflect it over the bar like a real-life keeper would, how hard can that be to program.
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Yeah, he should palm it over the bar. Unless it's a low rated keeper or keeper in bad form (arrow down).
 
at last this years PES looks playable I think it will now come down to peoples tastes if they like it or not as they do with PES 5/6 and no longer everyone agreeing its another sh*t PES ala 2008-2013
 
Not many freekicks from standing tackles in the videos. Several times when the player charge in from behind, holding down X, kicks the ball holders legs from behind so he stumbles and takes the ball. That would have been freekick in PES 5, just sayin.
 
There are some problems here and there that I'm a bit lazy to point them out now, but overall the game looks really good.

I'd like someone to make a gif of Balotelli move at 4:13. That was awesome!
 
Looks a little bit like fifa, but hopefully doesn't play like fifa. In fifa it feels like the players are floating and sliding everywhere. Like a hockey game on skates. Hopefully it still maintains the pes feel. And I know that with jenkey, nesa, and yair we will have a great game on PC. They will work their magic.
 
Am I the only impressed by the physics contact ? Every sliding takle, specially player's reaction after it, looks so natural and convincing, they all make "sense".

From what I've seen So far i really don't get how any preview could compare it to the Impact Engine wich has too many weird moments.
 
losslesscompression said:
Some feedbacks from IGN comment section:







Only a matter of time before they realize the concept of inertia and weight-shifting.
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Fuck these comments.

PLEASE KONAMI, DON'T LISTEN TO THESE FIFA PLAYERS THAT ARE SO USED TO THE RIDICULOUSLY Immediate responsiveness of Fifa that completetly takes any notion of natural physics limitations out of the equation.
 
Gab_ said:
Not many freekicks from standing tackles in the videos. Several times when the player charge in from behind, holding down X, kicks the ball holders legs from behind so he stumbles and takes the ball. That would have been freekick in PES 5, just sayin.
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yeah..

That's what I need in this game so, so, sooo much!!

I'm tired of these football games being so lenient with pressure.

This aspect of WE9 must return!
 
FIFA is dead again, KONAMI will release a new Complete Editor, we can able to make the world divisions.
Example playing English Leagues to the last division they existed.
My dream will be come true. I don´t know who was the guy is request this.
I'm happy.
No need to create tools anymore!!!

Portugal Leagues here we go! :D
 
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The latest videos look great, but has anyone picked up any evidence of away fans chanting as well as home fans? If Konami are going to go on about 'Heart', then they're going to look like right idiots if they still haven't reimplemented away fans properly. 'Heart' is all about a great atmosphere; well, you can't have a truly great atmosphere with only one set of fans chanting. Especially in England, fans bounce off each other - for example the old favourite, 'We support our local team', is replied to by the Utd fans with 'You support a load of shit'. Away fans are what make the atmosphere, without them all matches feel like friendlies and as we know the atmosphere with most friendlies is pretty dire.
 
CrispX said:
FIFA is dead again, KONAMI will release a new Complete Editor, we can able to make the world divisions.
Example playing English Leagues to the last division they existed.
My dream will be come true. I don´t know who was the guy is request this.
I'm happy.
No need to create tools anymore!!!

Portugal Leagues here we go! :D
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Woah - back up a minute - have you got a source to this Fifa killing news???? I hope this isn't some silly rumour.
 
CrispX said:
Nop.

http://proevolutionsoccerbrasil.com.br/edit-mode-de-pes-2014-aprecie-com-moderacao/
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Translation:

http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...-2014-aprecie-com-moderacao/&biw=1760&bih=907

What - so we've got what amounts to unlimited league slots now? Can we create the Championship, League One, Two and Conference with their stadiums to match? Are there any more articles about this editing mode?

Man, if all this is true then party time! :APPLAUD::APPLAUD::APPLAUD: This game looks amazing, awesome, unbelievable - now add as many leagues as we want? A proper FA Cup in PES? Seeyabye Fifa. ;)
 
The Doctor76 said:
http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...-2014-aprecie-com-moderacao/&biw=1760&bih=907

What - so we've got what amounts to unlimited league slots now? Can we create the Championship, League One, Two and Conference with their stadiums to match? Are there any more articles about this editing mode?

Man, if all this is true then party time! :APPLAUD::APPLAUD::APPLAUD: This game looks amazing, awesome, unbelievable - now add as many leagues as we want? A proper FA Cup in PES? Seeyabye Fifa. ;)
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Sorry to say this, but my hands are all wet and i'm shacking a lot, i still can´t believe in this. I am dreaming?
Omg... :PRAY:

Update: This news make me cry now. Konami is getting better waiting for the demo.
 
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CrispX said:
Sorry to say this, but my hands are all wet, i still can´t believe in this. I am dreaming? Omg... :PRAY:
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You know that old English saying 'too good to be true'? This is a prime example. Please Konami, say this isn't one of those cases!! :PRAY: And let's hope all the content can be used properly in ML...
 
Isn't that the site that always are full of shit? That screenshot is a 3D software named Maya, pretty sure about that.
 
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