It's not an issue of being a fan or not for me, I absolutely hate the idea of digital distribution.
Come on man ,there are about a million things that tell you this isn't pes 2014. I'll give you the crowd audio and the graphics for starters.
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Come on man ,there are about a million things that tell you this isn't pes 2014. I'll give you the crowd audio and the graphics for starters.
IIHUII
Banned
- 3 September 2010
ramgamer
La Liga
- 22 July 2013
- Team
- fc barcelona
hehe well maybe because i have played pes 2013 only for 2 days that's why i forgot how different pes 2014 is looool, it's the first the second time that i play pes for 2 days only after already done that with pes 2012...fingers crossed for 2014.sorry,i deleted the reply all together.God.. again we can see how unnatural and unrealistic looks PES 2013
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ramgamer
La Liga
- 22 July 2013
- Team
- fc barcelona
i'm concerned about the nets physics in 2014, they messed it up big time in 12-13, i like the loose nets from iss pro evolution 2
RockyJJP
FIFA fan, PES lover
i'm concerned about the nets physics in 2014, they messed it up big time in 12-13, i like the loose nets from iss pro evolution 2
I had the same concernes, but we can tell the net physics quality with suxh low res vid's. we need high res vids to determin the full qaulity.
WuZiMu
Banned
Thats even better than what ppl have assumed as a demo date on 13 to 20 of august. And yh no doupt about pes being on pc its just the release dates are for ps3/xbox360 only. Pc is waiting to be announced
WuZiMu
Banned
ramgamer
La Liga
- 22 July 2013
- Team
- fc barcelona
i hope they address it, but what i know is that the goal posts shape with the nets is certainly better than previous ones,especially with the net colors also, is looking good.the whole stadium simulation at least is better than what fifa simulates(10 meters btw the goal and the stands!!!!!at camp nou and at santiago bernabeu where in fact it's only a couple of meters.awful stadium simulation in fifa
Good reports xav1, but you should read this report from Nabs (Champion of pes 2013 in France). It's a little bit harsh!
Report of Nabs
Report of Nabs
Hello everyone. The day Konami begins with the arrival in beautiful premises in Windsor with journalists from TF1, GameSpot, So Foot, France Football member at Konami and two other players.
First we had the right to a meeting with John Murphy, Adam Bhatti, a Japanese which I forgot the name (probably the right arm Masuda) and Kai Masuda, who was videoconference from Japan.
At this gathering was discussed novelties, MASS, Heart ... which was read during videos with Kai Masuda. Therefore, nothing new when we watched these videos except the Heart. Indeed, it was explained to us that a player can be assigned an arrow shape in a game based on the behavior of the public. He really talked about red arrow in some cases, thus the performance of the player concerned will be improved dramatically. The other point to note is that the notes in this version are not definitive.
Then we were invited to test Pes 2014 for 2 hours. When you turn the console there is a little disappointment because the proposed version offers only 2 teams (Bayern Munich and Santos). In addition, I learned that the English team could play a version with Italy, France, Spain. The proposed version (75%) was probably constrained to lighten up the code. Therefore, the training menu was reduced to a minimum with a constant lag, the players cards were not activated and strategies with 2 L2 were busy times at random. Too bad for husking training menu and off you go for a first game.
Once you start a game you quickly realize we changed era in graphic terms. The game is really good and the graphics engine allows us to offer a more coherent than the previous games together. The contacts are intense, defenders do not hesitate to push a striker when the need arises. It is therefore necessary to have players with a decent balance otherwise tripping rapidly. The animations are much better passing game, the player concerned makes a real jump and smash the ball a little image of a CR7.
The game speed is not slow but the controls make the game (too) slow. One has the impression that players need 10 seconds to control and move properly. This is probably the subtle center of gravity but what is frustrating to see players struggling to make simple directions. Thus, loss of ball are very numerous and the pace is in very choppy at first meetings.
Another novelty of the gameplay is the speed burst that is activated by pressing 2 times R1. One could compare this to a new kind of nitro car for tuning. This element is interesting because it is available with the ball but also in the game without the ball. It allows a nice rush that lasts a few seconds to get the better of his opponent. It is therefore necessary to be reflective about its use.
The guards are catastrophic and it is an understatement. Yet at the meeting we were told that the guardians of the E3 version had been improved. What a shock to hear that and see on the ground that it is simple studs once you are in the penalty area. However, there are two positives for the porters. First hand clearances have been improved significantly. They can perform clearances hand of 30 or 40m fast. Second, when you decide to put the ball on the ground (with R1) is almost immediate while in 2013 it was not until the guard finishes his coffee to put the ball on the ground.
The defense seems more intelligent compared to the previous installment. Their investment is less risky but it could still be improved. The game is played out quickly which allows to trap the opponent. The pressing 3 players is interesting, but the two players helping us to take the ball are completely apathetic. They look forward without reacting, I think it would be different in future versions.
Dotted lines on set pieces for me is a big mistake. On the first kick I took I scored with Robben as I did not know the gauges. With a little practice scoring a free kick will be child's play when in reality it is very complicated except when called Juninho. The second thing that worries me about these concerns dotted corners. Indeed, direct corners seem possible. I hit the crossbar several times but again with practice the danger is enormous. It is possible to activate and deactivate these dotted with R1 but there is no point to disable this helps when trying to score at all costs. Regarding this new I'm not at all convinced.
The cross with the circle button are really interesting on the width of the field or on some diagonals. I tried to make a cross with two time round but I think this feature was not implemented in this version.
The shots are hitting but occasionally one has the feeling of playing with a beach ball. This is especially true when making strikes coils (square R2) when is parallel to the goal. It is impossible not to be consistent with this striking in this position. Even 20m putting the dipstick hole without the problem you catch with a dignified path of Tsubasa.
Dribbling are currently a mystery to me. In fact, the kick feint with square cross is totally useless when it was paramount in 2013. The most striking and effective dribbling are those from Fifa, I do not know the name of these dribbles unfortunately. Overall it is very difficult to remove in one against one which is normal with little playing time
Calls ball is again very important in this game. Handling has changed this year must be L1 + R3 which takes a little more time than R3. This operation is identical to its supporters as an alternative to traditional L1 button. It is more complicated to the last defender to overcome any deep pass, which is the fearsome weapon of Pes 2014.
It is for me the black spot of the game because the depths with L1 triangle are surgical precision. People who moan about Pes 2013 abuse and the effectiveness of this happening will break their TV on 2014. The password is programmed to be perfect, sometimes in unlikely positions which makes much less interesting parts. Almost all the goals I've seen are caused an L1 triangle that shows how the game is based on it.
About the network I think Adam made a small gaffe for 11 vs 11. Indeed, it would be a proposed only for BAL mode. Personally I expected to compete for 11vs11 with friends, like that proposed Fifa, but a priori it is not the case.
Conclusion
I'm really not convinced by this version. Teams Kai Masuda decided to take a fairly significant shift compared to Pes 2013. I sincerely believe that Konami will lose a certain type of player to convince another. I look forward to the final version because this kind of release is too far from the "real" Pes 2014 too frustrating by locking all the game options
PS: My resume is not very well organized but I've done better.
PS2: I probably forgot some elements so do not hesitate to ask questions.
Nabs
First we had the right to a meeting with John Murphy, Adam Bhatti, a Japanese which I forgot the name (probably the right arm Masuda) and Kai Masuda, who was videoconference from Japan.
At this gathering was discussed novelties, MASS, Heart ... which was read during videos with Kai Masuda. Therefore, nothing new when we watched these videos except the Heart. Indeed, it was explained to us that a player can be assigned an arrow shape in a game based on the behavior of the public. He really talked about red arrow in some cases, thus the performance of the player concerned will be improved dramatically. The other point to note is that the notes in this version are not definitive.
Then we were invited to test Pes 2014 for 2 hours. When you turn the console there is a little disappointment because the proposed version offers only 2 teams (Bayern Munich and Santos). In addition, I learned that the English team could play a version with Italy, France, Spain. The proposed version (75%) was probably constrained to lighten up the code. Therefore, the training menu was reduced to a minimum with a constant lag, the players cards were not activated and strategies with 2 L2 were busy times at random. Too bad for husking training menu and off you go for a first game.
Once you start a game you quickly realize we changed era in graphic terms. The game is really good and the graphics engine allows us to offer a more coherent than the previous games together. The contacts are intense, defenders do not hesitate to push a striker when the need arises. It is therefore necessary to have players with a decent balance otherwise tripping rapidly. The animations are much better passing game, the player concerned makes a real jump and smash the ball a little image of a CR7.
The game speed is not slow but the controls make the game (too) slow. One has the impression that players need 10 seconds to control and move properly. This is probably the subtle center of gravity but what is frustrating to see players struggling to make simple directions. Thus, loss of ball are very numerous and the pace is in very choppy at first meetings.
Another novelty of the gameplay is the speed burst that is activated by pressing 2 times R1. One could compare this to a new kind of nitro car for tuning. This element is interesting because it is available with the ball but also in the game without the ball. It allows a nice rush that lasts a few seconds to get the better of his opponent. It is therefore necessary to be reflective about its use.
The guards are catastrophic and it is an understatement. Yet at the meeting we were told that the guardians of the E3 version had been improved. What a shock to hear that and see on the ground that it is simple studs once you are in the penalty area. However, there are two positives for the porters. First hand clearances have been improved significantly. They can perform clearances hand of 30 or 40m fast. Second, when you decide to put the ball on the ground (with R1) is almost immediate while in 2013 it was not until the guard finishes his coffee to put the ball on the ground.
The defense seems more intelligent compared to the previous installment. Their investment is less risky but it could still be improved. The game is played out quickly which allows to trap the opponent. The pressing 3 players is interesting, but the two players helping us to take the ball are completely apathetic. They look forward without reacting, I think it would be different in future versions.
Dotted lines on set pieces for me is a big mistake. On the first kick I took I scored with Robben as I did not know the gauges. With a little practice scoring a free kick will be child's play when in reality it is very complicated except when called Juninho. The second thing that worries me about these concerns dotted corners. Indeed, direct corners seem possible. I hit the crossbar several times but again with practice the danger is enormous. It is possible to activate and deactivate these dotted with R1 but there is no point to disable this helps when trying to score at all costs. Regarding this new I'm not at all convinced.
The cross with the circle button are really interesting on the width of the field or on some diagonals. I tried to make a cross with two time round but I think this feature was not implemented in this version.
The shots are hitting but occasionally one has the feeling of playing with a beach ball. This is especially true when making strikes coils (square R2) when is parallel to the goal. It is impossible not to be consistent with this striking in this position. Even 20m putting the dipstick hole without the problem you catch with a dignified path of Tsubasa.
Dribbling are currently a mystery to me. In fact, the kick feint with square cross is totally useless when it was paramount in 2013. The most striking and effective dribbling are those from Fifa, I do not know the name of these dribbles unfortunately. Overall it is very difficult to remove in one against one which is normal with little playing time
Calls ball is again very important in this game. Handling has changed this year must be L1 + R3 which takes a little more time than R3. This operation is identical to its supporters as an alternative to traditional L1 button. It is more complicated to the last defender to overcome any deep pass, which is the fearsome weapon of Pes 2014.
It is for me the black spot of the game because the depths with L1 triangle are surgical precision. People who moan about Pes 2013 abuse and the effectiveness of this happening will break their TV on 2014. The password is programmed to be perfect, sometimes in unlikely positions which makes much less interesting parts. Almost all the goals I've seen are caused an L1 triangle that shows how the game is based on it.
About the network I think Adam made a small gaffe for 11 vs 11. Indeed, it would be a proposed only for BAL mode. Personally I expected to compete for 11vs11 with friends, like that proposed Fifa, but a priori it is not the case.
Conclusion
I'm really not convinced by this version. Teams Kai Masuda decided to take a fairly significant shift compared to Pes 2013. I sincerely believe that Konami will lose a certain type of player to convince another. I look forward to the final version because this kind of release is too far from the "real" Pes 2014 too frustrating by locking all the game options
PS: My resume is not very well organized but I've done better.
PS2: I probably forgot some elements so do not hesitate to ask questions.
Nabs
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L1+triangle
oh-oh :-/
From Chems report: the defenders were freezing and lost their brains.
Nabs says L1+triangle is too effective.
Sounds like a bug.
like the bug we had a few years ago where the ai wingback stopped attacking and let the player pull off a cross.
This was adressed in the first patch.
So i think it will be fixed in the demo, latest in the final version of PES 2014
oh-oh :-/
From Chems report: the defenders were freezing and lost their brains.
Nabs says L1+triangle is too effective.
Sounds like a bug.
like the bug we had a few years ago where the ai wingback stopped attacking and let the player pull off a cross.
This was adressed in the first patch.
So i think it will be fixed in the demo, latest in the final version of PES 2014
Ameppe
International
- 23 December 2007
- Team
- SSC Napoli
The Doctor76
Premier League
Brox - for God's sake, use paragraphs! No one's going to read that.
The Doctor76
Premier League
You better get to be a fan, because boxed games are dying, especially PC games; the signs are there for all to see. What's not to like? No games cluttering up your shelf, so lots more room for other things, and you do know that even if you own a disc version, you still only own a licence? The disc itself is worthless as far as Steam games are concerned.
Also, there's no way in hell I would've been able to buy Prototype - one of the best open world games I've played - for £3 from retail.
That's just one example.
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The Doctor76
Premier League
Confirmed: Game are one of the retail outlets who sell Steam wallet codes, so knock yourselves out lads!
IMO it doesn't make sense, to read these impressions. Srsly, how is this even possible for them to judge after 2 HOURS(!), how defensive works, through balls etc; since it's completely new game? I won't bother myself anymore with these impressions. Senseless. Gimme demo.
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Nik
ARHS na goustaris!
NikoLiberty4
Premier League
And put it in a spoiler tag, please.
About release date: I still think it's not a good idea to confront against GTA V, no matter which or how good the game is. IMO the best moment would be September 12-13.
About PC version: I hope the game is available on Steam on day one, and includes some features, like cloud saves or Workshop.
WuZiMu
Banned
Confirmed: Game are one of the retail outlets who sell Steam wallet codes, so knock yourselves out lads!
Very nice. Now will have to wait and see if it will be on steam from day one and then decide do i want to go old school and get cd or turn a new chapter and get a code?
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ramgamer
La Liga
- 22 July 2013
- Team
- fc barcelona
i'd prefer to have the pes collection on my shelve rather than having it fixed for other things to fit intoYou better get to be a fan, because boxed games are dying, especially PC games; the signs are there for all to see. What's not to like? No games cluttering up your shelf, so lots more room for other things, and you do know that even if you own a disc version, you still only own a licence? The disc itself is worthless as far as Steam games are concerned.
Also, there's no way in hell I would've been able to buy Prototype - one of the best open world games I've played - for £3 from retail.
abriroyesejuiii
Premier League
fear
happen what happened last year with demo2
and demo 2014 not to release for pc version ..
happen what happened last year with demo2
and demo 2014 not to release for pc version ..
Chuny
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- 11 December 2007
Me nuh understand you, mon.
Xav1
Barcamanmessi
- 11 June 2013
Iz wah yuh nyah undastand padna?
TheJinxedOne
Valar Morghulis.
MUFan23
League 1
- 26 September 2012
- Team
- Manchester United
Wuh ar zees gys dakin bou?
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