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Dynamic weather?! Yeah.:BOP:
Low socks?! Nice.:))
Changing teams in ML?! Yeah.:))
League Mode back?! Of course.:COOL:
Arabic commentary?! AWESOME!:BAND:
Early demo?! OH, NO, PLEASE, NO!:RANT:
 
Gab_ said:
Did he just say that they have simplified BAL so that is more pick up and play now? Please don't make the only mode I play shit :(
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Shite, didn't catch that. BAL has had the potential for several years now to be brilliant if they'd put some effort into it and fleshed it out.
 
Yeah he did say both ML and BAL became complex and they simplified them or some sort. Probably just meaning they're getting read of the silly boots boost and all the useless stuff they added and going back to football.
 
Lami said:
Yeah he did say both ML and BAL became complex and they simplified them or some sort. Probably just meaning they're getting read of the silly boots boost and all the useless stuff they added and going back to football.
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As long as they don't revert back to 'P' currency it sounds great!
 
Here's what Kei said exactly:

We have revised our Master League and Become a Legend systems, that have become very complex over the years. While maintaining their more enjoyable elements, we have reinvented the modes so they can be easily picked up and played through on a good tempo.
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Pro Evolution Soccer ‏@officialpes
CONFIRMED: LEAGUE MODE FOR MULTI PLAYERS OFFLINE ON #PES2014!

this is great
 
Of course this is too late for PES 2014, so I hope it could be realized for PES 2015:

I wish the training-mode would get massively expanded. The interaction between trainer and team while training is one of the most important aspects of football. The trainer figures out play-systems, tactics and what not and then trains the team on it and figuring out which players would best be suited for these play-systems and try to form a harmonious team. It could be a sort of roleplaying game within the game.

Of course the preparation before a season starts is the most important training-phase, but even within the season, depending on the success or failure of the new methods and systems, adaptions need to be made and trained, and when key-players get injured, replacement-players need to be worked with and when important matches are on the map, special preparations need to be made...
 
Taylor_94 said:
Oh no, I'm going to loss the Secretary.. she's the only female interaction I get :(
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I find it a bit unnecessary when your female secretary is talking to oyu about stuff in your office and there's the camera shot of her from behind, showing off her curvacious arse, lol, dont know if anyone else noticed that camera angle they just happened to add in? :P
 
You know in the old PES those goal celebrations when all the players look like they are having a gay orgy and are humping one another? that's you lot.

;)
 
Simcut said:
I find it a bit unnecessary when your female secretary is talking to oyu about stuff in your office and there's the camera shot of her from behind, showing off her curvacious arse, lol, dont know if anyone else noticed that camera angle they just happened to add in? :P
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Tut-tut sexual harassment charge coming your way ;)
 
Gab_ said:
Did he just say that they have simplified BAL so that is more pick up and play now? Please don't make the only mode I play shit :(
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A while back i said this, for us PC players we will be better off creating our own Manager Mode engine. Infact i think in general for the future developing a PES Football fusion is the way forward.

If i knew anything about programming i'd do it, create a separate manager mode engine, then create the ability to export and import results from PES. I think Konami should create a manager game so you could play it anywhere then when you want play it in pes.
 
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Gab_ said:
Did he just say that they have simplified BAL so that is more pick up and play now? Please don't make the only mode I play shit :(
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Seconded. From what I remember of BaL, it was a nice deep mode especially compared to the competition.

henrys hand said:
Dynamic weather?! Yeah.:BOP:
Low socks?! Nice.:))
Changing teams in ML?! Yeah.:))
League Mode back?! Of course.:COOL:
Arabic commentary?! AWESOME!:BAND:
Early demo?! OH, NO, PLEASE, NO!:RANT:
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Where's the source for dynamic weather? Although I have to say that I did call that a few weeks back. When I say dynamic weather, I mean weather/lighting that changes throughout the match - I'm not sure if you're referring to the weather's effect on the players' kits. ;)

And why don't you want an early demo?

Lami said:
Yeah he did say both ML and BAL became complex and they simplified them or some sort. Probably just meaning they're getting read of the silly boots boost and all the useless stuff they added and going back to football.
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Hmmm... as long as it isn't 'dumbed down'. ;)
 
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Thinking of skipping it altogether and wait for the retail version with all the juice. Everything new and fresh.
 
klashman69 said:
A while back i said this, for us PC players we will be better off creating our own Manager Mode engine. Infact i think in general for the future developing a PES Football fusion is the way forward.

If i knew anything about programming i'd do it, create a separate manager mode engine, then create the ability to export and import results from PES. I think Konami should create a manager game so you could play it anywhere then when you want play it in pes.
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Fusion with what though? Unlike Fifa, there's no Management game to fuse with. I recall an attempt at a Management game years back, but I don't think it was too successful. Only having six leagues didn't help. ;)
 
Everything is sounding great.

However it will all count for nothing is scripting is still extremely bad and if keepers cant catch top stop anything or are very stupid in 1 on 1 like pes 13.
 
dmxdex2020 said:
Everything is sounding great.

However it will all count for nothing is scripting is still extremely bad and if keepers cant catch top stop anything or are very stupid in 1 on 1 like pes 13.
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Oh you've played it already? Pray tell, how did you achieve this..
 
The Doctor76 said:
Fusion with what though? Unlike Fifa, there's no Management game to fuse with. I recall an attempt at a Management game years back, but I don't think it was too successful. Only having six leagues didn't help. ;)
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LzKx1p


Manage in TCM

Play in FIFA

great idea but both games on consoles where just shit. The manager game was glossy and fancy but had so many appalling bugs.

I think PES and the community should try one in open source so we create a library of teams and players and never have to worry about an update, just relink everything each year.

rIKman tried but i think he needed help to do it.
http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=52099
 
I've just watched the 4th Episode video. Master League Online is getting an overhaul, while Master League itself is being simplified...I'm not sure if I like the sound of that.

From what I remember, ML was too bloody basic as it was - it needed more depth, not less. This is beginning to smell like 'dumb it down so those who just want to whiz through seasons can do so' - which is backed up by 'being able to play at a good tempo'.

I hope I'm wrong. However either way, the announcement of International management, along with the ability to change clubs in ML (hopefully via hiring/firing) is good news.
 
klashman69 said:
LzKx1p


Manage in TCM

Play in FIFA

great idea but both games on consoles where just shit. The manager game was glossy and fancy but had so many appalling bugs.

I think PES and the community should try one in open source so we create a library of teams and players and never have to worry about an update, just relink everything each year.

rIKman tried but i think he needed help to do it.
http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=52099
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Yeah, I know all about that - I've opened numerous threads down the years asking EA to bring back Football Fusion. I meant there's no Konami management game to fuse PES with. Typical EA: the best feature they've ever thought of and they can it after a few games.

However if you reckon the community could make an open source one, that would be amazing; Fifa's appeal of having more content than PES (not licences, content) would come to a shuddering halt, on PC at least.

Edit: Interesting - I've just read that thread and it appears that some decent progress was made on it. Did you try it out?
 
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The Doctor76 said:
Yeah, I know all about that - I've opened numerous threads down the years asking EA to bring back Football Fusion. I meant there's no Konami management game to fuse PES with. Typical EA: the best feature they've ever thought of and they can it after a few games.

However if you reckon the community could make an open source one, that would be amazing; Fifa's appeal of having more content than PES (not licences, content) would come to a shuddering halt, on PC at least.

Edit: Interesting - I've just read that thread and it appears that some decent progress was made on it. Did you try it out?
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No, its dead, been dead for years.

here how he did it:
YouTube - RMEngine Demo #1 - Part 1

The issue here is his program didn't read PES very well. You see him exporting data to Team 1 and 2 in the game Austria and Belgium. Take w!ld's editor. It reads so much data from PES if we could use someone like his work or if someone like him jumped onboard, we would instead just focus on creating a manager game engine then export and import using methods we have already.

The hard part which will take time is the manager engine, the export has and can be done. I just have ideas but no knowledge whatsoever how to program anything.

In theory for PC:

- Create a manager engine, manage your team. when you go to a game. export to a Option file.

- Create a basic .exe of PES, start up PES which goes straight to controller select screen,

- Then team select, the teams will be ready, then the formations/stadium etc.. screen.

- Go to match, play match.

_ Finish then export the result and stats to The manager engine.
 
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