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PES 2013 Discussion Thread

Thinking about selling this game. I've not played it for nearly three weeks and have no motivation to put it back on again. There's simply nothing for me to do in the game.

PES2013 - a great game on the pitch but for me it has died a quick death through lack of offline content.
 
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Anyone on PC needs to try Yair's new patch. It actually revolutionizes the gameplay
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Why does PES2013's gameplay need to be revolutionised? What exactly does Yair do to the game?

I fully understood why PES2012 required Yair's attention, but not so much PES2013. I can't think of a single thing about PES2013's gameplay that needs a fan mod. Maybe the keepers catching more? Is it something like that?

Now, if Yair – or somebody – found a way to introduce a League Mode mod to the game...
 
Keith Houchen said:
Why does PES2013's gameplay need to be revolutionised? What exactly does Yair do to the game?

I fully understood why PES2012 required Yair's attention, but not so much PES2013. I can't think of a single thing about PES2013's gameplay that needs a fan mod. Maybe the keepers catching more? Is it something like that?

Now, if Yair – or somebody – found a way to introduce a League Mode mod to the game...
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i think he's managed to turn off all scripting
 
When i go to look for the data pack 2 update within the game it is greyed out but if i go to marketplace i can download it but it doesnt seem to apply the transfers etc. Also if i delete data pack 1 and only download datapack 2 is 1 included in 2 on 360 have daymos 1.5 for online option file also installed will prob wait for daymos v 3.

Any ideas ??
 
Jamezinho said:
Thinking about selling this game. I've not played it for nearly three weeks and have no motivation to put it back on again. There's simply nothing for me to do in the game.

PES2013 - a great game on the pitch but for me it has died a quick death through lack of offline content.
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Offline ML is actually quite enjoyable this year.
So far, I've been given two pairs of classic PES boots and bought a player that already had some.
They don't give players' a major stat boost, nor are you reminded about them all the time. I've hardly noticed the difference.
I'm usually and online player, but 20 minute games in ML have made me think twice.
 
The data pack 2 is a total joke. They had an extra week and a bit to sort out some of the issues, and it's lousy. I'd already tinkered around with formations and players etc on my save data before, so to be safe and eliminate any problems with this (as some had reported) I removed everything PES2013 related from my HDD and started again.

Firstly, I still had to go into transfers in the edit screen and reset all transfers for the data pack to work, and even now it's shit. Van Persie is now at Man Utd but they haven't even bothered putting him in the fucking starting eleven. In fact, he's not even on the bench. Some clubs just have all their new signings piled at the back of the squad lists. I mean go to Arsenal and they have Podolski through the middle as a lone CF and he's also captain. Go to Real Madrid and they have the same line up just with new signings sitting in the squad but not in the team.

What's the point of a data pack if the game then just puts most of the new players in the squad, meaning they'll likely not even play when you play in ML? Play a friendly against the CPU and none of the new players will be there. The data pack is a fucking mess.

Oh, and yeah, as Pere said last week, even though I have no conflicting data with old edited formations etc some players in the Brazilian league are clearly put way out of position. Some guy playing for Santos (I think) is sitting on the right wing at a rating of 51 when his actual stats show he's a CM rated at 70. I mean c'mon, this is fucking ridiculous. The xbox version is late by a week and a half and yet nothing has been done about the glaring errors that will have been obvious to them before.

What, so now I presume I'm gonna have to go through every team in the game and actually put some of the new signings back into their starting eleven, or put players I've never heard of into their proper positions just so that if I play these teams in ML then I won't be playing a bunch of players way out of position?

I'd edited a ton of stuff a few weeks ago and honestly now think it was probably more authentic than what Konami have managed to pull with this update. Shocking.
 
Guys this is driving me nuts:

How do you knock the ball ahead of you after receiving a through pass? I can do it diagonally but I want to knock it straight ahead.. In PES2012 all you had to do was hit R1+R2+direction you're running as soon as you receive it.
 
Oh and I just noticed Man Utd have Valencia at RB and Carrick as a 67 rated CB. WTF. This is pathetic. I've also noticed Barcekona have Tello in the first team replacing Villa or Pedro. I'm beginning to suspect Konami did these updates from the team sheets off one particular week. Lots of other regular stating players now as squad players because early in the season they had minor injuries.

I literally think Konami did this update by reading the team sheets for all teams on a random weekend worth of matches.

But I downloaded the data pack fresh having removed everything from my Xbox first, so if anyone thinks its due to it clashing with their own editing then it's not.

**Edit** and why the fuck is Stephen Ireland of Aston Villa playing as a 57 rated left sided striker with Agbonlohor relegated to the subs bench??!

**Edit Edit** and why, why, why why why is Bertrand, a young Chelsea left back, in their default starting eleven as a 55 rated right sided striker???? And Hazard is a left midfielder rated at only 70? Did someone actually get paid to do this?
 
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I could wait for the Daymos v3 option file to fix it but that includes Div 2 teams turned into German leagues, Championship teams etc and I won't want those playing in my Spanish La Liga ML. Plus I've already waited over a month now for an up to date game. All I want to do is play a fucking ML with up to date teams that haven't been ravaged by Konami. Honestly, did someone get paid to do this? Why would they have done what they did to the line ups? What a mess.

The sheer levels of ineptitude this year absolutely astounds me. Never before have Konami been THIS bad. I mean seriously. I've only looked over the English teams and the 'highlights' include:

- Podolski as captain and CF. Mannone moved to first choice keeper.

- Ireland at Villa as a LWF instead of Agbonlohor.

- Bertrand as a RWF in Chelsea's starting eleven. Hazard out of position as a LCM.

- Osman at Everton as a 51 rated DCM. He's normally a 74 rated CMF.

- Fellaini, an 82 rated CMF as a 68 rated striker.

- Berbatov at Fulham not even on the subs bench.

- England right back Glen Johnson at Liverpool as a LB. Enqrique not in the team at all.

- 94 rated Maicon not in Man City's team, replaced by Zabaleta.

- Van Persie at Man Utd not even on the bench. Welbeck at LMF. Carrick at CB. Valencia at RB.

- 86 rated Coloccini at Newcastle removed from the starting eleven, replaced by 75 rated Perch.

- Boswinga at QPR rated at 86 not in the side, replaced at RB by Onuoha, rated at 70 due to him being a CB.

- Lambert randomly removed from Southampton's team.

- Neither Adam or Owen in the Stoke team.

- 76-rated RMF Dyer playing at LMF at Swansea, now making him rated at 52. Pablo, rated at 82, not in the team at all.

- No Parker, Lloris, Dembele, Adebayor, Dempsey or Vertonghen in Spurs' starting eleven. Why is Livermore designated as a starter in the first team?

- Why is Mulumbu at West Brom at RMF rated at 49, and Yacob at CMF rated at 55? An absolute TON of West Brom players are way below their actual ratings because they're all out of position.

- Why is Carroll at West Ham not in the starting eleven?

- Why the fuck is Matthew Taylor, a left-back/LMF, playing up front as a 49 rated striker with Cole???

- Why is 80 rated LMF Jarvis on the bench and Vaz Te out of position as a 54 rated LMF??

- Why is Boyce at Wigan playing as a 49 rated LB when he's a 76 rated CB?

And that's just the English League. I have little idea about the other leagues in general but I don't want to be playing a ML against teams where all their players are rated between 40-60 because they're all out of position. I have no trust that Konami haven't fucked this up even more for the other leagues. No disrespect to the other leagues intended, but if the Premier League, one of, if not the most famous and widely watched leagues in the world, has this many mistakes then I can only imagine what Konami have managed to do to the other leagues.

Like I said, I could wait yet ANOTHER few weeks going into November for Daymos to update everything, but the issue is why should he be having to? This is utterly shambolic on Konami's behalf. It's like they just can't be bothered this year.

Can Konami literally get any worse? Removal of game modes, data packs corrupting option files, online not working, data packs being withdrawn for nearly a fortnight a month after release and then being put back out in an utter, utter state.

I'm 90% of the way just saying 'fuck off' to Konami and selling the game, I'm that pissed off. Wait weeks for transfer updates, option files (because of Konami's fault), with little to no communication, and I STILL can't play the game with proper teams.
 
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Suuuuupertalk said:
I could wait for the Daymos v3 option file to fix it but that includes Div 2 teams turned into German leagues, Championship teams etc and I won't want those playing in my Spanish La Liga ML. Plus I've already waited over a month now for an up to date game. All I want to do is play a fucking ML with up to date teams that haven't been ravaged by Konami. Honestly, did someone get paid to do this? Why would they have done what they did to the line ups? What a mess.

The sheer levels of ineptitude this year absolutely astounds me. Never before have Konami been THIS bad. I mean seriously. I've only looked over the English teams and the 'highlights' include:

- Podolski as captain and CF. Mannone moved to first choice keeper.

- Ireland at Villa as a LWF instead of Agbonlohor.

- Bertrand as a RWF in Chelsea's starting eleven. Hazard out of position as a LCM.

- Osman at Everton as a 51 rated DCM. He's normally a 74 rated CMF.

- Fellaini, an 82 rated CMF as a 68 rated striker.

- Berbatov at Fulham not even on the subs bench.

- England right back Glen Johnson at Liverpool as a LB. Enqrique not in the team at all.

- 94 rated Maicon not in Man City's team, replaced by Zabaleta.

- Van Persie at Man Utd not even on the bench. Welbeck at LMF. Carrick at CB. Valencia at RB.

- 86 rated Coloccini at Newcastle removed from the starting eleven, replaced by 75 rated Perch.

- Boswinga at QPR rated at 86 not in the side, replaced at RB by Onuoha, rated at 70 due to him being a CB.

- Lambert randomly removed from Southampton's team.

- Neither Adam or Owen in the Stoke team.

- 76-rated RMF Dyer playing at LMF at Swansea, now making him rated at 52. Pablo, rated at 82, not in the team at all.

- No Parker, Lloris, Dembele, Adebayor, Dempsey or Vertonghen in Spurs' starting eleven. Why is Livermore designated as a starter in the first team?

- Why is Mulumbu at West Brom at RMF rated at 49, and Yacob at CMF rated at 55? An absolute TON of West Brom players are way below their actual ratings because they're all out of position.

- Why is Carroll at West Ham not in the starting eleven?

- Why the fuck is Matthew Taylor, a left-back/LMF, playing up front as a 49 rated striker with Cole???

- Why is 80 rated LMF Jarvis on the bench and Vaz Te out of position as a 54 rated LMF??

- Why is Boyce at Wigan playing as a 49 rated LB when he's a 76 rated CB?

And that's just the English League. I have little idea about the other leagues in general but I don't want to be playing a ML against teams where all their players are rated between 40-60 because they're all out of position. I have no trust that Konami haven't fucked this up even more for the other leagues. No disrespect to the other leagues intended, but if the Premier League, one of, if not the most famous and widely watched leagues in the world, has this many mistakes then I can only imagine what Konami have managed to do to the other leagues.

Like I said, I could wait yet ANOTHER few weeks going into November for Daymos to update everything, but the issue is why should he be having to? This is utterly shambolic on Konami's behalf. It's like they just can't be bothered this year.

Can Konami literally get any worse? Removal of game modes, data packs corrupting option files, online not working, data packs being withdrawn for nearly a fortnight a month after release and then being put back out in an utter, utter state.

I'm 90% of the way just saying 'fuck off' to Konami and selling the game, I'm that pissed off. Wait weeks for transfer updates, option files (because of Konami's fault), with little to no communication, and I STILL can't play the game with proper teams.
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I feel for you suuuuuupertalk. But look, if you want to play the game, I would just start from scratch. I'm in the second year of an ML with Newcastle with gameplay directly out of the box, no patch, and just an option file for kits and emblems. I know it's not optimal, but there is just no optimal for Konami this year. Anyway, I bite my lip and enjoy the gameplay. Already Van Persie is at Real Madrid, Hazard switched with Kagawa, and Terry retired. After the second year of play, it all seems fine and I've forgotten about Konami's ineptitude. My ML now seems so real. I'm enjoying it. All I do is play and I don't think about anything else, and the only time I ever think of Konami is when I first turn the game on. Back to basics, brother, that's all I can say.
 
radha1 said:
I feel for you suuuuuupertalk. But look, if you want to play the game, I would just start from scratch. I'm in the second year of an ML with Newcastle with gameplay directly out of the box, no patch, and just an option file for kits and emblems. I know it's not optimal, but there is just no optimal for Konami this year. Anyway, I bite my lip and enjoy the gameplay. Already Van Persie is at Real Madrid, Hazard switched with Kagawa, and Terry retired. After the second year of play, it all seems fine and I've forgotten about Konami's ineptitude. My ML now seems so real. I'm enjoying it. All I do is play and I don't think about anything else, and the only time I ever think of Konami is when I first turn the game on. Back to basics, brother, that's all I can say.
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I think I agree with you. I've been going through the teams this evening and they're a mess across the board. I'll see a DCM that I've never heard of with a rating of 51, so, thinking that's a bit suspicious, I take him out of the team for someone with a higher rating and I realise that guy originally playing DCM is actually a LB rated at 75. WTF. It's like it across the board. Even the made up Div 2 and PES League teams seem affected, there are tons of players on 45-50's and they're totally out of position.

What annoys me is that Konami proudly announced the data pack today and had the cheek to actually try and drum up excitement for this delayed piece of crap by asking people 'what transfer are they looking forward to?'. I just didn't expect to see full-backs who only make it as fringe squad players being put in the starting line up as strikers. I have a quick look at the Spanish league, and first team I look in, Athletic Bilbao, they've inexplicably taken Llorente out of the starting line up, put him on the subs bench, and replaced him with a 75 rated reserve striker. Absolutely bizarre.

I also hoped that there would be significant stat alterations to various players, but absolutely nothing that I can tell. Oscar of Chelsea is rated in the low-mid 70's.

I think you're right. After weeks of waiting for DP2 so I can start playing the game properly, getting bored and frustrated of waiting then altering my own transfers, then deciding to just go with the DP2 and trust that Konami will have added extra players and updated stats, what I didn't expect was the sheer level of lazy, downright bizarre editing Konami have conducted on their own game. I meant they've moved around and taken out players for no reason. It's never happened like this in previous games, so why now? As people have suggested, I think perhaps with the new PES on the horizon, maybe all their efforts are going into that now because they clearly don't give a shit about the quality of this game as an actual package.

It must be a bug that happened during the process of making the DP2. Surely the football/data advisors Konami use know more about the game than to be putting left-backs for world famous clubs as strikers? I'm also amazed how barely anyone else seems bothered by this.
 
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How many of you have gone back to the game as it was out of the box, Prepatch?

I am thinking of deleting the 1.01 patch and going back to how the game was out of the box. Back to it's Prepatch state.

The gameplay prepatch was as good as I have ever seen in any football game ever. Since the patch, it's gone downhill somewhat.
 
Suuuuupertalk said:
I think I agree with you. I've been going through the teams this evening and they're a mess across the board. I'll see a DCM that I've never heard of with a rating of 51, so, thinking that's a bit suspicious, I take him out of the team for someone with a higher rating and I realise that guy originally playing DCM is actually a LB rated at 75. WTF. It's like it across the board. Even the made up Div 2 and PES League teams seem affected, there are tons of players on 45-50's and they're totally out of position.

What annoys me is that Konami proudly announced the data pack today and had the cheek to actually try and drum up excitement for this delayed piece of crap by asking people 'what transfer are they looking forward to?'. I just didn't expect to see full-backs who only make it as fringe squad players being put in the starting line up as strikers. I have a quick look at the Spanish league, and first team I look in, Athletic Bilbao, they've inexplicably taken Llorente out of the starting line up, put him on the subs bench, and replaced him with a 75 rated reserve striker. Absolutely bizarre.

I also hoped that there would be significant stat alterations to various players, but absolutely nothing that I can tell. Oscar of Chelsea is rated in the low-mid 70's.

I think you're right. After weeks of waiting for DP2 so I can start playing the game properly, getting bored and frustrated of waiting then altering my own transfers, then deciding to just go with the DP2 and trust that Konami will have added extra players and updated stats, what I didn't expect was the sheer level of lazy, downright bizarre editing Konami have conducted on their own game. I meant they've moved around and taken out players for no reason. It's never happened like this in previous games, so why now? As people have suggested, I think perhaps with the new PES on the horizon, maybe all their efforts are going into that now because they clearly don't give a shit about the quality of this game as an actual package.

It must be a bug that happened during the process of making the DP2. Surely the football/data advisors Konami use know more about the game than to be putting left-backs for world famous clubs as strikers? I'm also amazed how barely anyone else seems bothered by this.
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Llorente barely played this year because he has a conflict with his manager. So as you said before, Konami simply recreated the lineups from a few weeks ago.

I recommend you not to care about that issues and just play ML. At the very end, despite the low scorelines and a bit of AI cheating, you're gonna like it, because on the pitch the game is so good.
 
nevcapr said:
When i go to look for the data pack 2 update within the game it is greyed out but if i go to marketplace i can download it but it doesnt seem to apply the transfers etc. Also if i delete data pack 1 and only download datapack 2 is 1 included in 2 on 360 have daymos 1.5 for online option file also installed will prob wait for daymos v 3.

Any ideas ??
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You have to apply the transfers via edit,transfers,default. I had the same problem until someone put me on the right track here.
 
Interista said:
Guys this is driving me nuts:

How do you knock the ball ahead of you after receiving a through pass? I can do it diagonally but I want to knock it straight ahead.. In PES2012 all you had to do was hit R1+R2+direction you're running as soon as you receive it.
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Tap sprint a few times but if you mean exactly as you receive it I think you should try holding the sprint button just as you get the ball. If you time it right, it seems to give you a longer first touch into space. Not an explosive speed burst like on PES 2012 but a similar outcome with a different animation. That's what I recall anyway.
 
NikoLiberty4 said:
Llorente barely played this year because he has a conflict with his manager. So as you said before, Konami simply recreated the lineups from a few weeks ago.

I recommend you not to care about that issues and just play ML. At the very end, despite the low scorelines and a bit of AI cheating, you're gonna like it, because on the pitch the game is so good.
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Thing is though, I don't understand why Konami would want to think that we want to play a game where the best player for a team isn't present in the game from the start of a match purely because in real life he's had a bit of a spat with the manager? I find that odd. Just keep him in the team unless he's sold.

However, I've found out what's causing some of the bizarre positions, its not some lunatic at Konami but another screw up with their data packs and the OFs.

What's happening is that DP2 is changing team formations and altering line-ups, but when you then add the option file over the top, then reset all the transfers to get them working in the editor, all the transfers are there but they're set against the old formations from the option file. This is causing examples like Bertrand to be a RWF for example. Without the OF loaded he's in LM.

Doesn't explain why Bertrand is even playing on LM in Chelsea's first team, or why players have been left out of sides on the basis of not playing for a week or two, and it doesn't solve anything with the dodgy player positions (Llorente is still a sub, Podolski is still a CF and Carrick and Valencia are still defenders, Van Persie is still a sub etc).
 
CalcioCalabrese said:
I heard you have to go into every team and "default" the formation to get all the lineups sorted correctly. Maybe I read something wrong though.
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Yeah that's right, you can default the formations which I hope will fix some of the issues. Even then, there will be really odd player selection choices that will need editing though. The problem is that I don't want to do a ML thinking half the teams I"m playing against are much weaker than they're supposed to be, off the basis that random players seem to be out of position or much stronger players simply left out of the team.

I mean another example is Lyon, there's a 74 rated CMF in there yet another CMF is on the bench rated at 86. Doesn't make sense. It also doesn't make sense why Tello of Barcelona, who's made a few cameo appearances since being promoted from the youth team, is now in their default starting line up in PES. He's a LWF rated at 65, yet he's in ahead of Pedro, Villa and Sanchez....

For me the two options are; go with DP1 and my OF, then edit some of the major transfers, or to go with DP2 and the OF, go through each team resetting their formations to default, then try and pick through page after page of teams who I know nothing about trying to re-select their strongest line-ups.

First option is probably best. Otherwise I could find myself picking through all the pages of teams moving players of whom I mostly know nothing about - but all I have to go on is their overall rating - which as any PES fan should know, is a false indicator of how good they are. A CB might be rated as 90 but be shit at defending, however his other more pointless stats could be huge. Then you'd have a 75 rated CB who's a far better defender, but has low stats in unimportant areas, so this idea of moving everyone around based on their overall stats won't work either.

The first option is probably less work but the second option also has the benefit of having lots of newly added players, so I don't know. The whole thing is utterly ridiculous.

Radha1 probably has the best solution.
 
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I heard you have to go into every team and "default" the formation to get all the lineups sorted correctly. Maybe I read something wrong though.
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Yes I asked this on another forum but did not really get any response...After selecting default formation the players go into the natural slot (at least for Roma) but to do that for every team is annoying and seems pretty lazy by Konami..I thought maybe i did something wrong installing the Data Pack but i guess not.
 
Have you guys started with ML default team and received big transfer offers for your top players? (normal transfer activity)

I'm in my 4th season now and no one is interested(watch list) or put in a transfer for my top players???

I'm talking about rating 85+ players, some of whom won the top scorer, top assist, league/cup team player award in the previous seasons. :CONFUSE:
 
The Datapacks are the issue, they have conflicted with the OF's. It's not Konami making up their own incorrect formations.

Also, I've found that the CPU has been picking it's own team, based on stats I would assume. So, I'm not getting players playing out of position in the Championship in ML.

It's still an absolute joke what they have done though.
 
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I would say, at a guess, that Konami have taken all starting elevens from the first pre-season friendly of the season.

Thats what it looks like to me.
 
I honestly bad by the people who have been screwed by the official patches from Konami.I'm actually speechless regarding the last few complaints on these couple of pages.
They shit on their fanbase
 
A couple of days after transfer deadlines you can find option files with perfect rosters made by single individuals on their spare time. And then again...if konami is having issues...they could simply check out fifa or football manager...

They shit on their customers and as a result their product stopped selling.

According to gameschartz, currently situation is:
fifa 13 6.55 million
pes 2013 0.66 million

I think Johm Murphy should be fired. he talks bs and does nothing for the final quality of the product.
 
I think konami should keep the faithful informed and not hide behind each other the fans deserve answers to the poor game modes this year
 
Why is anyone surprised by what Konami have done to PES this time? Haven't you guys been playing the PES games they've been producing over the last few years?

It's all typical Konami crap. They've lost the plot entirely where PES is concerned.

By handing over your cash to them for this half arsed product you're actively endorsing them taking a massive shit on you the loyal (or naive) customer so I dont see how you can complain about it. You should have seen it coming.

Every PES player with half a brain knew EXACTLY what would happen with PES 2013 because it's the same thing that has happened EVERY SINGLE YEAR on this generation of tech.

If you fell for the moonbeams and rainbows that Konami and certain other people have sold you regarding PES this year you only have yourself to blame.
 
pj_puttz said:
Why is anyone surprised by what Konami have done to PES this time? Haven't you guys been playing the PES games they've been producing over the last few years?

It's all typical Konami crap. They've lost the plot entirely where PES is concerned.

By handing over your cash to them for this half arsed product you're actively endorsing them taking a massive shit on you the loyal (or naive) customer so I dont see how you can complain about it. You should have seen it coming.

Every PES player with half a brain knew EXACTLY what would happen with PES 2013 because it's the same thing that has happened EVERY SINGLE YEAR on this generation of tech.

If you fell for the moonbeams and rainbows that Konami and certain other people have sold you regarding PES this year you only have yourself to blame.
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Sad but true. I wish I hadn't bought the game to be honest. It's just rewarding bad practice.

Issidingo said:
I think Johm Murphy should be fired. he talks bs and does nothing for the final quality of the product.
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Murphy is a waste of space. He only pops up six months before a new PES to stir up a bit of hype but doesn't want to know about the community post-release. Konami are feigning a sense of community involvement when the truth is they really don't listen to us, nor are they keen to engage with the fanbase in order to respond to queries and criticism.
 
We all expect Konami ineptitude from game to game, but I don't see how I or anyone else deserves criticism for buying the game. The gameplay is great. But who could have envisaged Konami not being able to update teams properly? They've been guilty of many things with PES but at least they've managed to put player's in their proper positions, or put new signings into starting elevens.

Its like this year though they simply cant be bothered. You can see with Spurs, for example, that they just took all of their new signings, switched them from other clubs, and piled them at the back of the squad list with no thought that they might actually play.

Can anyone else confirm what Jimmy says though? During ML does the CPU pick its teams according to stats? Or does it carry on with it's default formations where teams have left backs plying centre midfield etc? I mean one team, I noticed for no reason the CB was playing RB and the RB was playing CB. Why?!
 
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