PES 2013 Discussion Thread

Noticeable changes in gameplay. Played 2 and didn't encounter any through-ball goals. AI seems to play nicely and the defense has gotten tighter, you know, reduced rails.
 
1.04 follows the usual fine tuning all patches have had so far. There are general improvements here and there like better collision models, new AI routines, finetuned passing (I noticed a difference on touch-and-go passes). The changes are there, no placebo, just don't expect miracles.
 
This game boils my piss

just played my first Copa Libetadores (Updated) match.

Deportes Iquique vs Leon

I had 20 shots in target in the game, was all over them for 65 mins and only scored 1 goal (hit the bar & post too), and they had 6 shots and scored 4 goals...

Annoying that the CPU just seem to always score.... again!

I should mention this is on Professional difficulty, which to me seems tougher than Top Player (work that out, anyone?) lol

Also, anyone notice that the 'updated' Libetadores still has the 2012 adboards? fail...
 
Oh, and something else, this was in the 'playoffs', there were like 6 other matches if I remember correctly, and 5 of them ended as 1-0 and the 6th ended as 0-1

What the fuck is with these simulated scores in PES? so unrealistic.
 
Simcut said:
Also, anyone notice that the 'updated' Libetadores still has the 2012 adboards? fail...
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Yeah, I thought they would update at least the adboards since Santander isn't even the main sponsor of the competition anymore... Even in the main menu it's still called Copa Santander Libertadores.
 
I've just played a few games now and I have to say I have enjoyed it a lot.

It reminds me of demo 1 which was great, players seem to have better movement with the ball and passing, the ref doesn't appear to be as whistle happy and the scripting doesn't feel as blatant,

I'm playing on superstar manual and the cpu doesn't seem to be charging towards the goal like a maniac as much.
 
Damn, the working quick free kick is a huge temptation to update to 1.04, but I'm finally enjoying 1.03 and don't want to risk losing that enjoyment in the case that 1.04 changed something for the worse that I love in 1.03.:JAY:
 
henrys hand said:
Damn, the working quick free kick is a huge temptation to update to 1.04, but I'm finally enjoying 1.03 and don't want to risk losing that enjoyment in the case that 1.04 changed something for the worse that I love in 1.03.:JAY:
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No risk since 1.04 is 99% similar to 1.03 except the working free kick.
 
Ameppe said:
No risk since 1.04 is 99% similar to 1.03 except the working free kick.
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I couldn't resist much longer and just did the update. I don't know how regularly you played 1.03, but I played it nearly daily the last few weeks and for me the difference with 1.04 on xbox360 is clearly visible.

# 1.04 has changed gamespeed, before I played with -2, but with 1.04 it felt a tad too slow for me and I had to go for -1 which now feels like -2 before the update.

# There is now more control over the players, they are less inclined to go for automated runs and even if they are they remain more responsive to my inputs. I even achieved to use the body of one my defenders to push an attacker a bit out of his path and slow him down. Was never able to do that before. There are less situations where I feel the rails to be disturbing.

# Passing is a bit nicer.

# AI all around feels a bit more refined and clever, more composed if you will.

# The pressuring is less wild so that less fouls are generated. Hadn't yet have the opportunity of a quick free kick.

# What remained the same:

- My players still not able to run for balls that are going to roll over the sideline. They don't develop that urgency to try to save the ball. They follow the ball in a slow way and even decelerate when nearing the sidelines.

- Cheating: It feels less now but still I can spot situations where an attacking player is trying to make a cross or pass or shot and my defender is slightly pushed out of the way to prevent the ball from getting blocked.

Verdict: There are some clear areas that got improved but I have to play more games to gauge if the level of fun remained the same as with 1.03 or if it got less fun due to the less wild pressuring and more composed AI.
 
henrys hand said:
I couldn't resist much longer and just did the update. I don't know how regularly you played 1.03, but I played it nearly daily the last few weeks and for me the difference with 1.04 on xbox360 is clearly visible.

# 1.04 has changed gamespeed, before I played with -2, but with 1.04 it felt a tad too slow for me and I had to go for -1 which now feels like -2 before the update.

# There is now more control over the players, they are less inclined to go for automated runs and even if they are they remain more responsive to my inputs. I even achieved to use the body of one my defenders to push an attacker a bit out of his path and slow him down. Was never able to do that before. There are less situations where I feel the rails to be disturbing.

# Passing is a bit nicer.

# AI all around feels a bit more refined and clever, more composed if you will.

# The pressuring is less wild so that less fouls are generated. Hadn't yet have the opportunity of a quick free kick.

# What remained the same:

- My players still not able to run for balls that are going to roll over the sideline. They don't develop that urgency to try to save the ball. They follow the ball in a slow way and even decelerate when nearing the sidelines.

- Cheating: It feels less now but still I can spot situations where an attacking player is trying to make a cross or pass or shot and my defender is slightly pushed out of the way to prevent the ball from getting blocked.

Verdict: There are some clear areas that got improved but I have to play more games to gauge if the level of fun remained the same as with 1.03 or if it got less fun due to the less wild pressuring and more composed AI.
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i played pes regularly since the beginning and 1.03 for weeks, online and offline but i don't see all these changes
i'm playing on superstar difficulty, 0 bars assistance

I would like to add
Cursor change is still bad while attacking, even on semi assisted.
 
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Ameppe said:
i played pes regularly since the beginning and 1.03 for weeks, online and offline but i don't see all these changes
i'm playing on superstar difficulty, 0 bars assistance

I would like to add
Cursor change is still bad while attacking, even on semi assisted.
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Agreed, player-switching is still not working as it should, but quite a few things got subtly improved.

Version 1.04 plays differently than 1.03, at least it does so for me on xbox360. Been playing 1.03 since it got released nearly daily in various competitions on top-player and full manual. The biggest difference is imho the improved responsiveness of players and the less obtrusive rails.

Not as big improved but still quite noticeable is the AI is a bit more clever all around, including my players and the CPU's players, even including the goalkeeper, they are all a bit more aware and reactive.

But I'm not yet sure if it is better from an overall fun-level-perspective, need more games to gauge that.
 
henrys hand said:
But I'm not yet sure if it is better from an overall fun-level-perspective, need more games to gauge that.
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Just had a few more matches... and all I can say is : Wow!

The gameplay on -1, top-player, full manual is now great. Imho clearly better than with 1.03, the more aware AI, the better passing, the more responsive players, they all come together and turn it into a much more balanced and more satisfactory gameplay-package.

The only problems I see are player-switching (especially when making a pass and the wrong one gets selected to receive the ball) and refereeing.

The referee doesn't differentiate well between a foul and a normal tackling. Sometimes the CPU-AI would brutally slide tackle me and shortly before the foul happens they touch the ball and the referee sees it as a legit tackling.

But in real life football referees decide that a tackling is a foul even though the one slide tackling touches the ball before hitting. I know it's hard to program that right as a human is really needed to decide if a tackling is a foul or not.

What I want to say is that the patch is great (though not perfect) as it makes the game be more alive... Thumbs up!
 
tried the game since the patch. (online only) apart from quick free kick.
nothing new at all, still as annoying as ever, regarding player switching and ai players totally unresponsive to loose balls. ah well back in its box never to see the light of day. good old konami!!!
 
johnking said:
tried the game since the patch. (online only) apart from quick free kick.
nothing new at all, still as annoying as ever, regarding player switching and ai players totally unresponsive to loose balls. ah well back in its box never to see the light of day. good old konami!!!
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Thought as much. Was thinking about picking it up again for cheap but I shalln't bother. Roll on PES 2014:))
 
Imo since the patch the game has been given a much needed boost but I'm playing offline so I can't comment about online play.

The reaction of the players is way quicker than 1.03, passing is better player movement is better, shooting feels weaker with some players , defence and tackling is better. Not as many fouls as before, more flowing feel to the game.

Closest I've seen to demo 1, very impressed so far.
 
Played BAL and there was 0 difference besides the quick free kick in that mode. Havent played online enough to say but did notice alot more silly little free kicks given away but need to play more to see if it was just a once off
 
Suarez75 said:
Ill post my settings later. Ive got it running fab.

Youll need to do three global edits, edit some gameplay sliders including ticking the cheating a.i box. Honestly im having really balanced games.
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How many hours in a Suarez75 day? I'm envious of how long they are, as I'd finally play all the games that I've been wanting to.
 
oh, and i forgot to mention in the last four games online i played, the four people that i was playing all quit on me in the 2nd half after i had come from a goal down in 3 matches and was 3-0 up in the other,then i get the message i am given a c rating and banned from all competitions.
what a complete and utter joke this game and konami are, how am i banned for people quitting the match,what am i supposed to do, let em friggin win!!!
konami-pes your a friggin joke.
 
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