Vannizzlefashizzal wrote:
Alot of people seem to think our supporters we're responsible, all I can say is that look at Roma's track record in this department, not to mention the problems in Italian football in general...
Also United have played in Europe every year for over a decade, our suporters are well known for NOT causing trouble, who do they think we are England supporters...
Considering how bad our hoolie' problem was, visiting fans from european teams get the run of Our city and get treated as guests should...
El Diego wrote:
I totally agree Vann, Italian authorities are a fucking joke - they need to look at their own back yard before blaming the ALWAYS BEHAVED travelling United supporters. Fucking scumbags.
First of all, Vannizzlefashizzal, is a very bad (and stupid, let me tell you) exercise, to associate what happened last week to "italians problems in general".
i often read u english guys blaming other people for generalizing and associating every football fans problem in england with hooligans... and i agree with u, it's very stupid..... but it looks like u do exactly the same thing when it's about italy.
secondary, i don't know what people is saying in germany, france or spain, but i know what people is saying in italy. no one is saying that english supporters are the only responibles, and u can realize it by looking at our newspapers first pages.
...but, of course we saw what english fan did also, so please, El Diego, don't come here telling me that manu fans "always behaved".... i don't care of what they "always did", wednesday they didn't behave at all.
1000 manu supporters came in rome without the ticket........ how do u consider this behaviour?
300 of them, all drunk, looked for a contact whit roma supporters. 8 roma supporters went at the hospital. now u'll tell me "and what about that roman who hitted with a knife an englishman?". of course he was a bastard, but u know, we're supposed to do this kind of things, afterall, we're animals, we're fucking scumbags, like u say..... but u're not. u "always behaved". so u weren't supposed to come in rome without a ticket, u weren't supposed to drink before the match, u weren't supposed to turn around the stadium, looking for the romans gate,to start a battle (that our policemen fortunately settled down), u weren't supposed to react to our fucking scumbags supporters (who were throwing lighters) by dismantling a fence, well by trying to dismantle a fence, fortunately u didn't, as our policemen stopped u in time.
We should look at our own back yard before blaming your supporters, i agree with u, el diego.......
but let me tell u, u should do the same, looking at your "always behaving" supporters, before blaming our police....
our policemen never had any problems with guests supporters (they had problems just with our ultras)...we too "played in Europe every year for over a decade" (milan, inter, juve, roma, lazio) but what happened wednesday between your supporters and our police, never happened before, doesn't this suggest u anything?
...... and please, dont talk me about that poor 50 yrs old man beated by the police, because yesterday i saw that man giving a kick into a policeman stomach, just 2 minutes before (i guess english tv didn't show it , am i right?:lol: .....exactly as the images of manu "behaving" fans trying to attack roma supporters outside the stadium, u didn't see those images, is it true?:lol: )
..... and anyway there were more than 5000 english supporters at the stadium wednesday, do u think they were all "poor innocents 50 years old men"?
what happened this week was a shame. but let's be honest, it was a shame for both of us. yours actions were a shame, exactly as our reactions.
sorry guys, for still bothering u with this subject, but those 2 posts really deserved an answer.
now, gettin' back to football.... just saw potrsmouth's goals. taylor's goal was very similar to vucinic's goal, don't u think?