Manchester United Thread
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YoungGun_UK
20 TIMES!
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
I can see why you' think that Lami, Thing is Bebe is meant to have a boat load of speed which Amauri doesn't (and probably would make Amauri a much better player) and Bebe is only 20 so we have time to refine his skills unlike Amauri you came onto the scene quite late.
Great performance to kick off the season, Scholes, Berbatov and Nani were superb.
I can see why you' think that Lami, Thing is Bebe is meant to have a boat load of speed which Amauri doesn't (and probably would make Amauri a much better player) and Bebe is only 20 so we have time to refine his skills unlike Amauri you came onto the scene quite late.
Great performance to kick off the season, Scholes, Berbatov and Nani were superb.
matherto
20 times 20 times Man United
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It's been an honour watching Scholes throughout his career, he just makes it all seem so easy.
Newcastle did their best to stop him early on and it worked for a bit, but then he kicked it up a notch and dictated the entire game. He's just an absolute pleasure to watch and always has been.
Berbatov was also brilliant tonight. Not that he actually did too much different to any other time, but he actually seemed to enjoy himself and his goal was wonderfully taken. Shame he didn't convert his other chances as he could easily have had a hattrick.
Negatives for tonight were Valencia and Rooney. Valencia just seemed completely devoid of ideas, seemingly always just knocking it to his side and crossing a ball straight into the defender and far too often was outmuscled which isn't something you say a lot about him. He did well to track back and never gave up however and I'm sure once he gets more gametime he'll be back to normal.
Rooney on the other hand needs to take a long hard look at himself at the minute. Lacking pace, fitness, desire and getting frustrated with himself and others (constantly having a go at Nani despite the winger having a decent game). Perhaps it'll all change with that goal he desperately needs?
It's been an honour watching Scholes throughout his career, he just makes it all seem so easy.
Newcastle did their best to stop him early on and it worked for a bit, but then he kicked it up a notch and dictated the entire game. He's just an absolute pleasure to watch and always has been.
Berbatov was also brilliant tonight. Not that he actually did too much different to any other time, but he actually seemed to enjoy himself and his goal was wonderfully taken. Shame he didn't convert his other chances as he could easily have had a hattrick.
Negatives for tonight were Valencia and Rooney. Valencia just seemed completely devoid of ideas, seemingly always just knocking it to his side and crossing a ball straight into the defender and far too often was outmuscled which isn't something you say a lot about him. He did well to track back and never gave up however and I'm sure once he gets more gametime he'll be back to normal.
Rooney on the other hand needs to take a long hard look at himself at the minute. Lacking pace, fitness, desire and getting frustrated with himself and others (constantly having a go at Nani despite the winger having a decent game). Perhaps it'll all change with that goal he desperately needs?
phrase
Tactician
- 12 December 2002
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Valencia,Rooney and Evra was not in their game last night...the result of not having a proper pre-season.
Players like Nani,Berbatov and Fletcher looked sharp because of pre-season.
It dosent matter if you are Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs...their class just shows.
Always great to hit the ground running...always a pleasure to start off with a win.
The glory and redemption has started...C'mon United!!!
Valencia,Rooney and Evra was not in their game last night...the result of not having a proper pre-season.
Players like Nani,Berbatov and Fletcher looked sharp because of pre-season.
It dosent matter if you are Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs...their class just shows.
Always great to hit the ground running...always a pleasure to start off with a win.
The glory and redemption has started...C'mon United!!!
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
It's clear that Berbs loves playing with Scholes. Almost makes me wonder if they're just too intelligent to 'get' everyone else, footballing wise. The two of them just danced around the Newcastle midfield, in tight quarters, always had time...was great to see. If only we had a firing Rooney, would have been devestating.
But, as pleased as I am and as great as we played, it all game down to the lil Ginger Ninja, and he's surely only got 30 odd games in him all season. Fletcher was reasonably woeful imo, and is vastly over-rated by United fans. Carrick didn't play. So I'm just seriously not sure what we're going to do when Scholes is out. Guess next week might be a chance to see...
It's clear that Berbs loves playing with Scholes. Almost makes me wonder if they're just too intelligent to 'get' everyone else, footballing wise. The two of them just danced around the Newcastle midfield, in tight quarters, always had time...was great to see. If only we had a firing Rooney, would have been devestating.
But, as pleased as I am and as great as we played, it all game down to the lil Ginger Ninja, and he's surely only got 30 odd games in him all season. Fletcher was reasonably woeful imo, and is vastly over-rated by United fans. Carrick didn't play. So I'm just seriously not sure what we're going to do when Scholes is out. Guess next week might be a chance to see...
YoungGun_UK
20 TIMES!
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Eh? Fletcher reasonably woeful
Eh? Fletcher reasonably woeful
Sean
Championship
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Good start to the season last night, Berb playing well and hopefully have a better season than last, Rooney always seems to have a slow start to the season, soon enough (hopefully!) he'll be firing on all cylinders.
Scholes is the master atm along with Giggsy, they like wine, seem to get better with age! Their passing game was out of this world!
Fulham next for us, hopefully continue that winning start before the CL groups are drawn.
Good start to the season last night, Berb playing well and hopefully have a better season than last, Rooney always seems to have a slow start to the season, soon enough (hopefully!) he'll be firing on all cylinders.
Scholes is the master atm along with Giggsy, they like wine, seem to get better with age! Their passing game was out of this world!
Fulham next for us, hopefully continue that winning start before the CL groups are drawn.
Jumbo_
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Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Rooney scored 5 in his first 6 games last season, hardly a slow start!
And Giggs was crap last night apart from the goal, he actually gave the ball away as many times as he found a teammate in the 20 mins he was on.
Rooney scored 5 in his first 6 games last season, hardly a slow start!
And Giggs was crap last night apart from the goal, he actually gave the ball away as many times as he found a teammate in the 20 mins he was on.
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Giggs is always crap in that sense. He tries the 'killer' pass and so has a much lower completion rate than others. I love the man but make no secret of my desire to use him as minimally as possible this term. He also no longer sprints, which means, as we saw last night, there are gaps both at the front and back if the ball moves quickly.
And yes, I thought Fletcher was reasonably woeful. Ran around a lot but lost the ball waaay more than he usually does, and I don't think he completed a single telling pass. I know he's there to facilitate Scholes, but he was off his game lsat night.
Giggs is always crap in that sense. He tries the 'killer' pass and so has a much lower completion rate than others. I love the man but make no secret of my desire to use him as minimally as possible this term. He also no longer sprints, which means, as we saw last night, there are gaps both at the front and back if the ball moves quickly.
And yes, I thought Fletcher was reasonably woeful. Ran around a lot but lost the ball waaay more than he usually does, and I don't think he completed a single telling pass. I know he's there to facilitate Scholes, but he was off his game lsat night.
Jumbo_
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Took his goal well though.
Took his goal well though.
Metallica
Whoosh... Bullshit!
- 20 August 2003
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
What a joy it was to watch Scholes the other night, absolute pure class. You just cant buy that
What a joy it was to watch Scholes the other night, absolute pure class. You just cant buy that
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Vannizzlefashizzal
TWENTYTIMES!!!!
- 31 October 2002
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Thought it was a decent performance for a season opener.
After another low key, business as usual type pre season (with the obligatory slagging off, of a utd player post WC) i've had a positive outlook re: this season....
nothing that i'd put mine or anybody else's house but still....
im interested to see if SAF's take on Wengers youth policy will start to bear fruit, evans, anderson, the Da Silva twins, gibson, cleverley, welbeck, macheda have all been in or around the success of the past few years, then recent additions obertan, Chicharito ans Smalling are young relativley unknowns (when we signed them)...
basically has SAF had a plan all along and just been buliding on the QT or have we been hampered by the (apparent?) mismangement of the clubs ££££
by our american owners....??
Thought it was a decent performance for a season opener.
After another low key, business as usual type pre season (with the obligatory slagging off, of a utd player post WC) i've had a positive outlook re: this season....
nothing that i'd put mine or anybody else's house but still....
im interested to see if SAF's take on Wengers youth policy will start to bear fruit, evans, anderson, the Da Silva twins, gibson, cleverley, welbeck, macheda have all been in or around the success of the past few years, then recent additions obertan, Chicharito ans Smalling are young relativley unknowns (when we signed them)...
basically has SAF had a plan all along and just been buliding on the QT or have we been hampered by the (apparent?) mismangement of the clubs ££££
by our american owners....??
Milanista
Mangiamoli!
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Loving the beef between Mancini and SAF
Loving the beef between Mancini and SAF
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
I think F365's mediawatch said it best:
Welcome To Manchester
Sir Alex Ferguson's comments about "kamikaze" spending have prompted a retort from Manchester City boss Robert Mancini, who countered: "I respect his opinion but Manchester United, not Manchester City spent a lot of money in the past."
Hmmm.
Manchester City's net transfer spend since 1992: £428m.
Manchester United's net transfer spend since 1992: £136m.
In fact, United have only outspent City in seven of the 19 seasons since the Premier League began. And keen observers may remember that City were actually out of the Premier League for five of those 19 seasons. And yes, they somehow managed to outspend United in two seasons when they were languishing in the second flight. We wonder whether Mr Mancini has ever heard of Lee Bradbury...
I think F365's mediawatch said it best:
Welcome To Manchester
Sir Alex Ferguson's comments about "kamikaze" spending have prompted a retort from Manchester City boss Robert Mancini, who countered: "I respect his opinion but Manchester United, not Manchester City spent a lot of money in the past."
Hmmm.
Manchester City's net transfer spend since 1992: £428m.
Manchester United's net transfer spend since 1992: £136m.
In fact, United have only outspent City in seven of the 19 seasons since the Premier League began. And keen observers may remember that City were actually out of the Premier League for five of those 19 seasons. And yes, they somehow managed to outspend United in two seasons when they were languishing in the second flight. We wonder whether Mr Mancini has ever heard of Lee Bradbury...
Milanista
Mangiamoli!
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Mancini has always been a crybaby. Can't wait for United v City. I really don't like owners that spend crazy money in so short time.
Mancini has always been a crybaby. Can't wait for United v City. I really don't like owners that spend crazy money in so short time.
BobbyBox
WING NUT!
- 10 October 2003
- Arsenal
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
When do they play eachother? that will be a great game
When do they play eachother? that will be a great game
Milanista
Mangiamoli!
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Nov 10 3:00pm ET: Manchester City vs. Manchester United
Feb 12 10:00am ET: Manchester United vs. Manchester City
Nov 10 3:00pm ET: Manchester City vs. Manchester United
Feb 12 10:00am ET: Manchester United vs. Manchester City
bebo
Looking for a Manager
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
well, mutd has spend more than any other club collectedly ,but mancity spend so much in such a short time specially in a so called economic crisis .It`s clearly an obsession to beat Mutd. Well, that`s make take on it...(tevez billboard) mancini won`t be there by christmas. Chemistry is not bought! it`s developed
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noted down on the calender. i think city may surprise the league this year, just how poor they'll be, if they continue like they did against spurs, i see top half of the table at best, they got the players yeah but they looked nowhere near a team
noted down on the calender. i think city may surprise the league this year, just how poor they'll be, if they continue like they did against spurs, i see top half of the table at best, they got the players yeah but they looked nowhere near a team
Aboutreika18
Too Black, Too Strong
- 5 September 2006
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http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/1992-to-2011.html
Pfft...
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/1992-to-2011.html
Jumbo_
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Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Shut a City fan up with that table at work this week!
If Villa buy anyone then we'll have the 6th highest net spend too.
Bought the league? Pfft.
Shut a City fan up with that table at work this week!
If Villa buy anyone then we'll have the 6th highest net spend too.
Bought the league? Pfft.
BobbyBox
WING NUT!
- 10 October 2003
- Arsenal
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
The table does show you have spent the 3rd most after City and Chelsea though? just on money spent on players alone.
The table does show you have spent the 3rd most after City and Chelsea though? just on money spent on players alone.
bebo
Looking for a Manager
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
Mutd out spend and won the title 3 times...yes, Fergie build the infrastructure but 30 million on a player was the norm for you lots. You can`t say because what ManCity has done lately in the market makes Mutd look like little spenders. ManCity`s highest transfer was Robinho at 32 million? just 2 million short from Mutd`s average high profile transfer. Imagine if benezma would of came for 35mil .
ManCity are trying to fast-track there way up. Chelsea did it but they were closer to the top then ManCity.For a Mutd fan to think they spend little is refusing to see the true. Looking at Arsenal`s spending you would figure we are a promote side .
Mutd out spend and won the title 3 times...yes, Fergie build the infrastructure but 30 million on a player was the norm for you lots. You can`t say because what ManCity has done lately in the market makes Mutd look like little spenders. ManCity`s highest transfer was Robinho at 32 million? just 2 million short from Mutd`s average high profile transfer. Imagine if benezma would of came for 35mil .
ManCity are trying to fast-track there way up. Chelsea did it but they were closer to the top then ManCity.For a Mutd fan to think they spend little is refusing to see the true. Looking at Arsenal`s spending you would figure we are a promote side .
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Vannizzlefashizzal
TWENTYTIMES!!!!
- 31 October 2002
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
of course we have spent alot, but the amount of money the club made as a PLC was ridiculous, but, it was generated by the supporters and fans so why not invest the money back into the team,
maybe im looking at it thru red tints but to me there's a big difference between winning millions and making millions...
of course we have spent alot, but the amount of money the club made as a PLC was ridiculous, but, it was generated by the supporters and fans so why not invest the money back into the team,
maybe im looking at it thru red tints but to me there's a big difference between winning millions and making millions...
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Vannizzlefashizzal
TWENTYTIMES!!!!
- 31 October 2002
BobbyBox
WING NUT!
- 10 October 2003
- Arsenal
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
There is a big difference I agree. You have money because you are successful, the way it should be. It wasn't Meant to be be dig, just pointing out you still have spent a lot, which you have every right to Do.
There is a big difference I agree. You have money because you are successful, the way it should be. It wasn't Meant to be be dig, just pointing out you still have spent a lot, which you have every right to Do.
Cristiano Rossinho
The Most Underrated
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
According to bbc.com, Rafael Van der Vaart, who's put on a transfer list said: 'If you are leaving Real Madrid, there is only one club that is not a step down - and that's Manchester United.' Interesting...
P.S. Our former winger Zoran T. had brillant performace last night vs Anothorsis. Scored 2 goals and assisted one time. His dribbles on left flank were wreaking havoc.
According to bbc.com, Rafael Van der Vaart, who's put on a transfer list said: 'If you are leaving Real Madrid, there is only one club that is not a step down - and that's Manchester United.' Interesting...
P.S. Our former winger Zoran T. had brillant performace last night vs Anothorsis. Scored 2 goals and assisted one time. His dribbles on left flank were wreaking havoc.
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If anything I was shocked how little our net spend has been. I mean, whatever date you pick to go from (the start of the prem, for example, or 2000, it's somewhat arbitrary) we've only averaged c. £7m per year. That's pretty remarkable given the success we've had.
It's testament to our youth system - we may not be producing absolute top quality United first XI, but man do we produce a lot of mid-level premiership players who get sold for £5m here, £4m there. It all adds up.
It also seems silly to me to talk about £30m signings as the benchmark - yes we have a couple (and to be fair, half have been awesome) but they're few and far between. The difference is that City spend between £20m-£30m on an entire squad of players. They're up to £125m THIS SUMMER. That is almost as much as United's net spend since the start of the premier league. It's just a whole magnitude out.
And I do believe eventually they'll overtake us. And for a couple seasons they'll jump up and down happily. Then the price of oil will drop/ the Arab owner will get bored/ Platini will introduce a turnover to wages ratio and enforce it and they'll be the new Leeds, bankrupt and lamenting Gary Cook's irresponsible spending.
If anything I was shocked how little our net spend has been. I mean, whatever date you pick to go from (the start of the prem, for example, or 2000, it's somewhat arbitrary) we've only averaged c. £7m per year. That's pretty remarkable given the success we've had.
It's testament to our youth system - we may not be producing absolute top quality United first XI, but man do we produce a lot of mid-level premiership players who get sold for £5m here, £4m there. It all adds up.
It also seems silly to me to talk about £30m signings as the benchmark - yes we have a couple (and to be fair, half have been awesome) but they're few and far between. The difference is that City spend between £20m-£30m on an entire squad of players. They're up to £125m THIS SUMMER. That is almost as much as United's net spend since the start of the premier league. It's just a whole magnitude out.
And I do believe eventually they'll overtake us. And for a couple seasons they'll jump up and down happily. Then the price of oil will drop/ the Arab owner will get bored/ Platini will introduce a turnover to wages ratio and enforce it and they'll be the new Leeds, bankrupt and lamenting Gary Cook's irresponsible spending.
phrase
Tactician
- 12 December 2002
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread.
I'd much prefer Van der Vaart than Raul Meirelles to be honest.
Its always nice to read about foreign players expressing interest to join us.
According to bbc.com, Rafael Van der Vaart, who's put on a transfer list said: 'If you are leaving Real Madrid, there is only one club that is not a step down - and that's Manchester United.' Interesting...
P.S. Our former winger Zoran T. had brillant performace last night vs Anothorsis. Scored 2 goals and assisted one time. His dribbles on left flank were wreaking havoc.
I'd much prefer Van der Vaart than Raul Meirelles to be honest.
Its always nice to read about foreign players expressing interest to join us.