Manchester United Thread

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Valencia,Rooney and Evra was not in their game last night...the result of not having a proper pre-season.
Players like Nani,Berbatov and Fletcher looked sharp because of pre-season.
It dosent matter if you are Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs...their class just shows.
Always great to hit the ground running...always a pleasure to start off with a win.
The glory and redemption has started...C'mon United!!!
 
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It's clear that Berbs loves playing with Scholes. Almost makes me wonder if they're just too intelligent to 'get' everyone else, footballing wise. The two of them just danced around the Newcastle midfield, in tight quarters, always had time...was great to see. If only we had a firing Rooney, would have been devestating.

But, as pleased as I am and as great as we played, it all game down to the lil Ginger Ninja, and he's surely only got 30 odd games in him all season. Fletcher was reasonably woeful imo, and is vastly over-rated by United fans. Carrick didn't play. So I'm just seriously not sure what we're going to do when Scholes is out. Guess next week might be a chance to see...
 
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Good start to the season last night, Berb playing well and hopefully have a better season than last, Rooney always seems to have a slow start to the season, soon enough (hopefully!) he'll be firing on all cylinders.
Scholes is the master atm along with Giggsy, they like wine, seem to get better with age! Their passing game was out of this world!

Fulham next for us, hopefully continue that winning start before the CL groups are drawn.
 
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Rooney scored 5 in his first 6 games last season, hardly a slow start!

And Giggs was crap last night apart from the goal, he actually gave the ball away as many times as he found a teammate in the 20 mins he was on.
 
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Giggs is always crap in that sense. He tries the 'killer' pass and so has a much lower completion rate than others. I love the man but make no secret of my desire to use him as minimally as possible this term. He also no longer sprints, which means, as we saw last night, there are gaps both at the front and back if the ball moves quickly.

And yes, I thought Fletcher was reasonably woeful. Ran around a lot but lost the ball waaay more than he usually does, and I don't think he completed a single telling pass. I know he's there to facilitate Scholes, but he was off his game lsat night.
 
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Thought it was a decent performance for a season opener.

After another low key, business as usual type pre season (with the obligatory slagging off, of a utd player post WC) i've had a positive outlook re: this season....

nothing that i'd put mine or anybody else's house but still....

im interested to see if SAF's take on Wengers youth policy will start to bear fruit, evans, anderson, the Da Silva twins, gibson, cleverley, welbeck, macheda have all been in or around the success of the past few years, then recent additions obertan, Chicharito ans Smalling are young relativley unknowns (when we signed them)...

basically has SAF had a plan all along and just been buliding on the QT or have we been hampered by the (apparent?) mismangement of the clubs ££££
by our american owners....??
 
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I think F365's mediawatch said it best:
Welcome To Manchester
Sir Alex Ferguson's comments about "kamikaze" spending have prompted a retort from Manchester City boss Robert Mancini, who countered: "I respect his opinion but Manchester United, not Manchester City spent a lot of money in the past."

Hmmm.

Manchester City's net transfer spend since 1992: £428m.
Manchester United's net transfer spend since 1992: £136m.

In fact, United have only outspent City in seven of the 19 seasons since the Premier League began. And keen observers may remember that City were actually out of the Premier League for five of those 19 seasons. And yes, they somehow managed to outspend United in two seasons when they were languishing in the second flight. We wonder whether Mr Mancini has ever heard of Lee Bradbury...
 
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Mancini has always been a crybaby. Can't wait for United v City. I really don't like owners that spend crazy money in so short time.
 
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Milanista said:
Mancini has always been a crybaby. Can't wait for United v City. I really don't like owners that spend crazy money in so short time.
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When do they play eachother? that will be a great game :DD
 
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Nov 10 3:00pm ET: Manchester City vs. Manchester United
Feb 12 10:00am ET: Manchester United vs. Manchester City
 
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beachryan said:
I think F365's mediawatch said it best:
Welcome To Manchester
Sir Alex Ferguson's comments about "kamikaze" spending have prompted a retort from Manchester City boss Robert Mancini, who countered: "I respect his opinion but Manchester United, not Manchester City spent a lot of money in the past."

Hmmm.

Manchester City's net transfer spend since 1992: £428m.
Manchester United's net transfer spend since 1992: £136m.

In fact, United have only outspent City in seven of the 19 seasons since the Premier League began. And keen observers may remember that City were actually out of the Premier League for five of those 19 seasons. And yes, they somehow managed to outspend United in two seasons when they were languishing in the second flight. We wonder whether Mr Mancini has ever heard of Lee Bradbury...
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well, mutd has spend more than any other club collectedly ,but mancity spend so much in such a short time specially in a so called economic crisis .It`s clearly an obsession to beat Mutd. Well, that`s make take on it...(tevez billboard) mancini won`t be there by christmas. Chemistry is not bought! it`s developed
 
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Milanista said:
Nov 10 3:00pm ET: Manchester City vs. Manchester United
Feb 12 10:00am ET: Manchester United vs. Manchester City
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noted down on the calender. i think city may surprise the league this year, just how poor they'll be, if they continue like they did against spurs, i see top half of the table at best, they got the players yeah but they looked nowhere near a team
 
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beboq said:
well, mutd has spend more than any other club collectedly ,but mancity spend so much in such a short time specially in a so called economic crisis .It`s clearly an obsession to beat Mutd. Well, that`s make take on it...(tevez billboard) mancini won`t be there by christmas. Chemistry is not bought! it`s developed
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Pfft...

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/1992-to-2011.html
 
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:SMUG:

Shut a City fan up with that table at work this week!

If Villa buy anyone then we'll have the 6th highest net spend too.

Bought the league? Pfft.
 
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The table does show you have spent the 3rd most after City and Chelsea though? just on money spent on players alone.
 
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Mutd out spend and won the title 3 times...yes, Fergie build the infrastructure but 30 million on a player was the norm for you lots. You can`t say because what ManCity has done lately in the market makes Mutd look like little spenders. ManCity`s highest transfer was Robinho at 32 million? just 2 million short from Mutd`s average high profile transfer. Imagine if benezma would of came for 35mil .

ManCity are trying to fast-track there way up. Chelsea did it but they were closer to the top then ManCity.For a Mutd fan to think they spend little is refusing to see the true. Looking at Arsenal`s spending you would figure we are a promote side .
 
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BobbyBox said:
The table does show you have spent the 3rd most after City and Chelsea though? just on money spent on players alone.
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of course we have spent alot, but the amount of money the club made as a PLC was ridiculous, but, it was generated by the supporters and fans so why not invest the money back into the team,

maybe im looking at it thru red tints but to me there's a big difference between winning millions and making millions...
 
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Vannizzlefashizzal said:
of course we have spent alot, but the amount of money the club made as a PLC was ridiculous, but, it was generated by the supporters and fans so why not invest the money back into the team,

maybe im looking at it thru red tints but to me there's a big difference between winning millions and making millions...
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There is a big difference I agree. You have money because you are successful, the way it should be. It wasn't Meant to be be dig, just pointing out you still have spent a lot, which you have every right to Do.
 
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According to bbc.com, Rafael Van der Vaart, who's put on a transfer list said: 'If you are leaving Real Madrid, there is only one club that is not a step down - and that's Manchester United.' Interesting...:PINKS:

P.S. Our former winger Zoran T. had brillant performace last night vs Anothorsis. Scored 2 goals and assisted one time. His dribbles on left flank were wreaking havoc.
 
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If anything I was shocked how little our net spend has been. I mean, whatever date you pick to go from (the start of the prem, for example, or 2000, it's somewhat arbitrary) we've only averaged c. £7m per year. That's pretty remarkable given the success we've had.

It's testament to our youth system - we may not be producing absolute top quality United first XI, but man do we produce a lot of mid-level premiership players who get sold for £5m here, £4m there. It all adds up.

It also seems silly to me to talk about £30m signings as the benchmark - yes we have a couple (and to be fair, half have been awesome) but they're few and far between. The difference is that City spend between £20m-£30m on an entire squad of players. They're up to £125m THIS SUMMER. That is almost as much as United's net spend since the start of the premier league. It's just a whole magnitude out.

And I do believe eventually they'll overtake us. And for a couple seasons they'll jump up and down happily. Then the price of oil will drop/ the Arab owner will get bored/ Platini will introduce a turnover to wages ratio and enforce it and they'll be the new Leeds, bankrupt and lamenting Gary Cook's irresponsible spending.
 
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Cristiano Rossinho said:
According to bbc.com, Rafael Van der Vaart, who's put on a transfer list said: 'If you are leaving Real Madrid, there is only one club that is not a step down - and that's Manchester United.' Interesting...:PINKS:

P.S. Our former winger Zoran T. had brillant performace last night vs Anothorsis. Scored 2 goals and assisted one time. His dribbles on left flank were wreaking havoc.
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I'd much prefer Van der Vaart than Raul Meirelles to be honest.
Its always nice to read about foreign players expressing interest to join us.
 
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BobbyBox said:
There is a big difference I agree. You have money because you are successful, the way it should be. It wasn't Meant to be be dig, just pointing out you still have spent a lot, which you have every right to Do.
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lol is was late..

old habits die hard!!
 
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beachryan said:
And I do believe eventually they'll overtake us. And for a couple seasons they'll jump up and down happily. Then the price of oil will drop/ the Arab owner will get bored/ Platini will introduce a turnover to wages ratio and enforce it and they'll be the new Leeds, bankrupt and lamenting Gary Cook's irresponsible spending.
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yeah maybe one day but i cant see it, the clubs just not built for success, once the new owner realises this, (probley after spending best part of a billi£££££) he'll be off!

at least chelsea had already won a few trophies, had big name players (their own ground lol) and were looking to make the step up

city, well you know what they say about gold-plating a turd...

its still a turd!!!
 
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