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Manchester United Thread

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We can still dream of Ozil!

"The World Cup is all that matters at the moment," he is quoted as saying in The Sun.

"When I get back we can think about my future, but for now it's not something I want to give a lot of thought to. To the top players the Premier League is attractive.

"You look at what Manchester United and Chelsea have achieved over the last five years and you see it would be easy to be successful at two clubs like that.

"I see what Michael Ballack achieved at Chelsea and the quality of players he played with and the temptation becomes obvious.

"Trophies are what matters to me. There are two teams in England always at the top and of course that's attractive. But the same is true for La Liga.

"They're the strongest leagues in the world."
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Apparently we ARE STILL interested to sign Karim Benzema!!

And just a side note...If anybody is still wondering if there is a better centre back currently playing aside from Nemanja Vidic....its LUCIO.
 
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He's 32 though and the fact he likes to carry the ball out of defence means I've never been totally convinced about him, although he's had a great season.

I'd rather go for Cheillini. No nonsense centre back who is quicker than Vidic plus the fact he's left footed means he'd add a bit more balance to our backline, so he'd be my first choice if Vidic left.
 
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phrase said:
Apparently we ARE STILL interested to sign Karim Benzema!!

And just a side note...If anybody is still wondering if there is a better centre back currently playing aside from Nemanja Vidic....its LUCIO.
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you obviously didn`t watch Brasil game today...Kuyt dribbled circles around him Kuyt! :BLINK:
 
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phrase said:
And just a side note...If anybody is still wondering if there is a better centre back currently playing aside from Nemanja Vidic....its LUCIO.
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There are loads of better centrebacks than Vidic. He's massively overrated by United fans.

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Apparently, Rene Meulensteen wants us to re-sign Forlan!
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6243553,00.html
"He has developed fantastically, so complete - a top athlete. I really would welcome him back to Manchester United."

Meulensteen said he sent Forlan a text message after he netted both goals in the victory over Fulham, reading: "Top class, if it's up to me you will return to us."

The striker reportedly replied: "I am ready for it."
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That's pretty harsh, I can't think of many at all. In fact name some that are better.

I'd be very surprised if we bought a CF, We need creativity.
 
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I was in agreement with us not looking at another centre forward, but Fergie has just come out and said 'we looked at David Villa, but he was always going to Barcelona'. Interesting.

Rio is out til November, btw, could really see us moving for Chiellini or someone. Smalling certainly hasn't looked ready for the deep end, and I'm not convinced of Vida and Evans as a pair (great individuals, but just don't gel very well)

I try not get transfer muppety/unrealistic about our squad, but just saw an old United match on tv with our lineup as:

----------EVDS----------
-Brown-Rio--Vida--Evra--
--Hargreaves-Scholes----
--------Fletch----------
-Ronaldo--------Tevez---
--------Rooney----------

Compared to:
---------EVDS-----------
-Rafael-Evans-Vida-Evra-
---Fletcher--Carrick----
---------Park-----------
--Valencia------Nani----
-------Rooney-----------

Just feels to me like we haven't strenghened in a single position in the last 3 years. Sigh.
 
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Looks like our business is done then.

"We've looked at a few options," Ferguson told the Mail on Sunday. "We did consider David Villa but he was always going to Barcelona.

"I just don't believe there is value out there at the moment. I'm very happy with the strength of our squad as it is."
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It depends that 07/08 side was a great side so its not really a good comparison.

Rooney and Fletcher are better players though, Nani/Valencia add width and service that Ronaldo and Tevez didn't so its basically a different system.
 
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If we were after Villa, I'm sure we'd know by now. I cant help but think Fergie's only saying that to convince us that we have funds available to buy players. Until we actually buy a top player, I'm not believing a thing he says.
 
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"We've looked at a few options," Ferguson told the Mail on Sunday. "We did consider David Villa but he was always going to Barcelona.
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I considered Marisa Miller as my next girlfried but had to put up with the girl i met whilst drunk in manchester one night! i tthink the same concept applies here...
 
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RuneEdge said:
If we were after Villa, I'm sure we'd know by now. I cant help but think Fergie's only saying that to convince us that we have funds available to buy players. Until we actually buy a top player, I'm not believing a thing he says.
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So you're calling him a liar are you? I see a lot of fans here have been whining that our squad needs to be updated or changed.

Well let me put a few of these nutjobs who doubt Fergies integrity into place.
we officially made £30 million bid for Karim Benzema last year) but he went to Real Madrid because they offered £35 million and he dreamed to play at Bernabeu. Then we bought players like Hernandez and Smalling. Of course they weren't expensive, but they weren't cheap nor free either.

Sir Alex Ferguson spoke to the media on sunday and said that he did try to sign David Villa and offered £30 million, but he prefered Catalans because he wanted to go there and wanted to stay in Spain and Catalans offered £35 million for him. Fergie has come out countless of times to state there are funds avaible but only if he feels there is value and that there is a place in the squad.

At the moment our squad has the correct balance of youth and experience. If we splash out 30million on a new flavour of the month signng then there'll have to be players who'll be sacrificed. At the moment there are no buyers and fergie does not intend to sale. We have enough strikers - 7 in fact, and enough midfielders - the only area that could be called into question is the defense with reports that Rio could be out for 4months where I'm sure SAF is monitoring the situation.
 
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Good post. Rio will be back within the first 3 games of the season though, the initial story was incorrect apparently.
 
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I think we need a creative midfielder and if we get one we'll be sorted, unless he believes Cleverley is the answer.
 
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Beliel said:
So you're calling him a liar are you?
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Are we talking about the same man who said "I wouldnt sell them a virus"? The same person who said we have the funds from Ronaldo's sale available when clearly its a load of bullshit? After seeing our finances, the £80million only just about helped us breakeven, and instead of spending on the likes of Benzema, Villa, etc, we got Owen on a free, Obertan for £3million and Valencia for £16million. Where's the other £60 million?
Yes he's a liar. He's always been all about the tradition of the club and did his best to maintain our image as one of the greatest footballing clubs in the world. But it's a shame that with the Glazers taking over, he's having to lie to keep face and not show that we're weakening on and off the pitch. I can understand his point of view but he needs to be more honest with himself and us.
 
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Mesut Ozil being linked with us today....apparently we have been in talks with his club and agent.Looks to settle a deal before we do our yearly team photoshoot.
 
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So is Sneijder - and for a change it's not coming from caughtoffside.com. Probably the nearest there is to a Scholesy replacement, but it's probably BS anyway...
 
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RuneEdge said:
Are we talking about the same man who said "I wouldnt sell them a virus"? The same person who said we have the funds from Ronaldo's sale available when clearly its a load of bullshit? After seeing our finances, the £80million only just about helped us breakeven, and instead of spending on the likes of Benzema, Villa, etc, we got Owen on a free, Obertan for £3million and Valencia for £16million. Where's the other £60 million?
Yes he's a liar. He's always been all about the tradition of the club and did his best to maintain our image as one of the greatest footballing clubs in the world. But it's a shame that with the Glazers taking over, he's having to lie to keep face and not show that we're weakening on and off the pitch. I can understand his point of view but he needs to be more honest with himself and us.
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How is it bullshit and Ferguson's fault if he tried to spend some of the Ronaldo money on Benzema but then preferred Real? We only got Owen because we couldnt bring Benzema in and was really the only alternative option.

He's now spent 20million on both smalling and Hernandez.

You mention the purchases of Valencia and Obertan as if their not relevant to spending.

Spending £30m is no guarantee of immediate success and Fergie is not going to spend for the sake of it or just to satisfy and appease a few transfer enthusiasts unless there are areas that need improving. How are we weakening both on and off the pitch?

We havnt sold anyone from last season besides Tosic who didnt even feature and we've added to squad. We only finished 1 point behind chelsea due to a flux of injuries to key players during the run in. Some of those players like anderson, owen and Hargreaves are back ready and fit for pre-season which will add even further options.

After all the last time United spent big didn't work out so well. So why are so many up in arms with our club being cautious and only looking at spending wisely when necessary?
 
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phrase said:
Mesut Ozil being linked with us today....apparently we have been in talks with his club and agent.Looks to settle a deal before we do our yearly team photoshoot.
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Really? Droooool...

Young, talented, fast, great brain...erm, yes please!

We just waiting for Germany to depart the WC?
 
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Beliel said:
How is it bullshit and Ferguson's fault if he tried to spend some of the Ronaldo money on Benzema but then preferred Real? We only got Owen because we couldnt bring Benzema in and was really the only alternative option.
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Seriously you beleive that?
 
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beachryan said:
Really? Droooool...

Young, talented, fast, great brain...erm, yes please!

We just waiting for Germany to depart the WC?
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He's gonna cost atleast £25million now, isnt he?
 
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Mack said:
Seriously you beleive that?
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Whats not to believe? You expect me to entertain the idea from delusional spoilt fans that want to call Fergie a liar just because he hasnt splashed out 30million on a big name in two seasons that there are no funds avaible basing their views off speculation? When there are clear quotes from Benzema and Fergie confirming there were offers on the table however he opted for Real.

Sir Alex “We asked about Benzema and we had a value for him. Lyon have done well because they got €42m but I think we took a sensible view.”

Benzema: ''"There were quite a few clubs that contacted me like Manchester United, Inter Milan and Barcelona, but I decided to come here(Real Madrid)''

I rest my case.
 
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The conversation to Lyon probably went something like this-

Sir Alex:- We would like to make an offer for Benzema we have valued him how does 5m sound?
Lyon:- lol Madrid, have already offered us 20m barca 18 and inter 19m
Sir Alex:- Ah well we can save 5m and get owen for free....

There are numurous times he has said one thing and done another its just paper talk to apease the gullible fans like yourself...

The no funds situation isnt specualtion either the clubs accounts are released every year and as Rune said in the year you won the CL, PL and sold Ronaldo you just about broke even...
 
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I'm pretty sure that We made £40m profit in the season that Ronaldo was sold, which incidentally was 14 months after we won the Champions league.
 
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Mack said:
The conversation to Lyon probably went something like this-

Sir Alex:- We would like to make an offer for Benzema we have valued him how does 5m sound?
Lyon:- lol Madrid, have already offered us 20m barca 18 and inter 19m
Sir Alex:- Ah well we can save 5m and get owen for free....

There are numurous times he has said one thing and done another its just paper talk to apease the gullible fans like yourself...

The no funds situation isnt specualtion either the clubs accounts are released every year and as Rune said in the year you won the CL, PL and sold Ronaldo you just about broke even...
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Gullible? :lol: I'm not the one buying into paper talk regarding transfers involing the likes of Ozil. We are not signing anyone not due to the fact we are skint, but the fact that the squad is big enough and balanced in all areas.

And how can direct qoutes which are neither made be considered paper?

How about you back up your foolish statement that there are no funds available and we've made no profit? Go on, prove you're not talking absolute bollocks.
 
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Yeah I agree.

Also now we've sold Tosic and Foster our squad is sorted for the new Premier League rules so anyone coming in would either have to be under 21, or they would be at the expense of another player in the squad, meaning we'd have to risk paying for a player to sit in the stands for a season if we didn't manage to sell them.

Like Beliel said, we only finished one point behind Chelsea last season and we had shitloads of injuries to contend with, our squad really isn't that bad and as Berbatov and Nani, Anderson have proved - spending big doesn't always work out (at least not straight away).
 
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I just wrote a post in the City thread saying he's been alright and not the flop everyone makes out! :LOL:
 
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:LOL:

That's the thing though. Him being "alright" doesn't justify the price spent on him. He should be much more than that.
 
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