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Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

well you can ask for a striker as much as you want it aint happening we got anderson who can play thier while saha will play thier i just dont see us buying anyone

Oh come on YoungGun :roll:

Of course no opinion affects what has been decided, but that doesn't invalidate any opinion does it.

Anderson is NOT a striker either by the way.

Of course you are where you are, but saying that you can ask for what you want but it isn't happening is like a child throwing shit all over me.

I was expressing an opinion that you required a striker, it is an opinion that like all opinions will not affect what actually happens. If you disagree with the opinion fair enough, but don't say stuff like it isn't happening or the like because it is childish.
 
Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

I like vanzandt he`s sharp! is he alucard? ninja breakz? who is he? one thing for sure he`s honest as the sun :)
 
Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

I still say the one signing we did not need is Anderson imo. Nani makes sense as does Tevez as hes on loan but Anderson has NO set position so that money used should of been for a striker.

Just my opinion.

The good thing with selling Heinze for £8m is we have more than enough for a quality striker. Relying on Saha is like leaving a fat kid in a donut shop.

A disaster waiting to happen
 
Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

I like vanzandt he`s sharp! is he alucard? ninja breakz? who is he? one thing for sure he`s honest as the sun :)

Honest as the sun but an asshole, I hate him.

I still say the one signing we did not need is Anderson imo. Nani makes sense as does Tevez as hes on loan but Anderson has NO set position so that money used should of been for a striker.

Just my opinion.

The good thing with selling Heinze for £8m is we have more than enough for a quality striker. Relying on Saha is like leaving a fat kid in a donut shop.

A disaster waiting to happen

I reckon Anderson is one for the future and a gamble that might be a good gamble. I think he is maybe thought of as a long term replacement for Scholes...but I could be wrong.

I think the fee for Heinze was very good for you, I can't see him ever returning to the form he had pre ligament damage and think he was alwasy going to be a sub behind Evra. On Heinze the fact is you now have Silvestre as the sub and that is probably as good as it gets. He is still a decent and underated player and a loyal servant to the club. And you would never have kept all three left backs at the club and you would have lost Silvestra, as he could not stay as third choice.

You have 8million quid and a more loyal second choice at left back....worked out well as far as I can see.

Reckon you should use that 8 million on a striker now, stick another 10 million or so to it and you might get Berbatov who I think would fit the bill....agree on what was said about Saha. Talented but very injury prone.
 
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I reckon Anderson is one for the future and a gamble that might be a good gamble. I think he is maybe thought of as a long term replacement for Scholes...but I could be wrong.

I think the fee for Heinze was very good for you, I can't see him ever returning to the form he had pre ligament damage and think he was alwasy going to be a sub behind Evra. On Heinze the fact is you now have Silvestre as the sub and that is probably as good as it gets. He is still a decent and underated player and a loyal servant to the club. And you would never have kept all three left backs at the club and you would have lost Silvestra, as he could not stay as third choice.

You have 8million quid and a more loyal second choice at left back....worked out well as far as I can see.

Reckon you should use that 8 million on a striker now, stick another 10 million or so to it and you might get Berbatov who I think would fit the bill....agree on what was said about Saha. Talented but very injury prone.

Anderson looks like he fits the bill for replacing scholes, but scholes will be hard to replace...

Hopefully saha back for weekend would be just what we need, ive been defending his corner for along time but his "sick note" status is obvious to all...

The clubs gonna have to move quick to get a player in, we disagreed on whether femi would give us the edge we're lookin for, lol I read your 101 football tactics reply, but we will have to agree to disagree on that one, would mos def love to see Berbatov sign but would be too much money...

Maybe SAF aint gonna panic buy....

Sad to see Gabys United career go out like that, the supporters and players loved him, he was even given captains armband a few times last season, still glad the mickeys didnt nick him...

and we continue giving our "last contract of career" players to madrid....
 
Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

looks like rafa lost it when he didnt nick heinze

From Sporting Life:

In a Liverpool Echo interview, Benitez claims decisions are being taken which favour Liverpool's old rivals with Tuesday's dismissal of Heinze's bid to move to Anfield the latest setback.

Broadening his attack from the Heinze issue, Benitez said: "Then I would like to ask the Premier League why is it that Liverpool always plays the most fixtures away from home in an early kick-off, following an international break?

"We had more than the top clubs last season and we have four already to prepare for this season.

He then - somewhat bizarrely given the story dominated the news agenda for most of the close-season - claims it was "so easy" for United to sign Tevez.

Benitez added: "Then I want to ask the Premier League why it was so difficult for Liverpool to sign Javier Mascherano, when we had to wait a long time for the paperwork, but it was so easy for Carlos Tevez to join Manchester United?

"It's going to be very difficult for us to win the Premier League because the other teams are so strong, but I want our supporters to know that despite the disadvantages we have, we will fight all the way.

"We will fight to cope with our more difficult kick-off times and all the other decisions which are going against us."


So, everyones against the mickeys ey...

im sure sheffield united and neil warnock are crying their hearts out..
 
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Its as though Benitez just used that interview to say what appears to go the wrong way for Liverpool ie the away fixtures after internationals, Mascherano hard to get, Tevez easy to get

Im sure he knows exactly what happend for the whole Tevez transfer. I really dont know how he can say it to be honest
 
Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

Honest as the sun but an asshole, I hate him.



I reckon Anderson is one for the future and a gamble that might be a good gamble. I think he is maybe thought of as a long term replacement for Scholes...but I could be wrong.

I think the fee for Heinze was very good for you, I can't see him ever returning to the form he had pre ligament damage and think he was alwasy going to be a sub behind Evra. On Heinze the fact is you now have Silvestre as the sub and that is probably as good as it gets. He is still a decent and underated player and a loyal servant to the club. And you would never have kept all three left backs at the club and you would have lost Silvestra, as he could not stay as third choice.

You have 8million quid and a more loyal second choice at left back....worked out well as far as I can see.

Reckon you should use that 8 million on a striker now, stick another 10 million or so to it and you might get Berbatov who I think would fit the bill....agree on what was said about Saha. Talented but very injury prone.

ok mate, let me see if we purchase a new striker i think that would be good for the short term because we dont have many options "at the moment" but lets say we where to purchase any striker that would automatically put them infront of the cue for the likes of Saha, Ole, Anderson(isnt where he plays best but he can play there)so he would probably play around 5 - 10 games without no competition but then Saha would be back, Ole would be back, Rooney would be returning, Tevez would expect to play also so for the long term it would just cause a bunch of strikers trying to get a game which would leave some wanting away,, and i dont know why you think we would (if he's a success) splash out 30M for Rooney's bench warmer it is clear that are main pairing will be Rooney & Tevez so buying a striker that would cost us 8-10M would probably be fighting a lost cause trying to get ahead of them two so instead of buying a new striker we can just use someone like fraizer Campbell who will want to impress but when the big guns return wont really mind going back to a bench warmer
 
Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

Anderson looks like he fits the bill for replacing scholes, but scholes will be hard to replace...

A HUGE understatement, Scholes will go down as one of the greatest midfielders to ever grace the game.


Hopefully saha back for weekend would be just what we need, ive been defending his corner for along time but his "sick note" status is obvious to all...

Very good player, but well you covered it...

The clubs gonna have to move quick to get a player in, we disagreed on whether femi would give us the edge we're lookin for, lol I read your 101 football tactics reply, but we will have to agree to disagree on that one,

How dare you!!

haha nice humour and perfectly reasonable too. :applause:


would mos def love to see Berbatov sign but would be too much money...

What would be too much money if he could help you win trophies though? I don't think you could pay too much money if the player is the perfect fit. But that said getting him would be difficult mnoney aside.

Maybe SAF aint gonna panic buy....

That's VERY loaded isn't. I mean it implies that any buy equates to a panic buy and it says to me that maybe you think buying a striker is not the answer.

I don't agree with what could be implied there. I don't see why buying a striker or getting one in on loan has to be a panic move- doing so with the right judgement would be sound reasoning. If Ferguson does not get a striker in then you have to hope that Saha and Solskjaer stay fit and on the basis of history that to me would seem very prudent irrespective of what hindsight will show come may.

Even giving A Cole a pay as you play deal would be some reasonable cover...doesn't have to be anything dramatic.

Sad to see Gabys United career go out like that, the supporters and players loved him, he was even given captains armband a few times last season, still glad the mickeys didnt nick him...

and we continue giving our "last contract of career" players to madrid....

Far better to have 8 million than a substitute who was never the same post ligament damage who has soured his relationship with the club.

You got exactly what you could have wanted out of the situation. The only way it could have been better was if he had gone to a team that was less likely to challenge in the champions league...but you should be happy with the outcome.

Silvestre will now probably stay and he will be decent cover at left back.
 
Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

ok mate, let me see if we purchase a new striker i think that would be good for the short term because we dont have many options "at the moment".

More than agree “thus far” hehe, a feeling a but is coming though.

but lets say we where to purchase any striker that would automatically put them infront of the cue for the likes of Saha, Ole, Anderson(isnt where he plays best but he can play there)so he would probably play around 5 - 10 games without no competition but then Saha would be back, Ole would be back, Rooney would be returning, Tevez would expect to play also so for the long term it would just cause a bunch of strikers trying to get a game which would leave some wanting away,,

I don’t think the club or anyone will consider Anderson as a forward or in competiton for that position. I am fairly sure that Anderson is on for the future and a player to come on for Scholes or even for Ronaldo at times. He is going to have cameos this season in midfield positions IMHO. If I am right that is that issue cleared up.

Buying a striker does not automatically put them ahead of anyone in a competition for places if you buy the right player and you let them know this. Since when has any player just walked into your team?

Getting Saha back is a big boost for you and any striker would be competing with him and Ole. But Ole is probably more an impact sub at this time in his career, more so than at any other time and he will not complain about being on the bench if needs be as he is amazingly loyal and puts the club first. Saha is NOT remotely guaranteed to stay fit and a new striker would be cover and would also push Saha and keep him on his toes.

Rooney should be behind Saha as a split striker as that is his best position, so he should be competing with Tevez for that role behind Saha. Again that is good competition for a different position. There will be enough games for both of them and remember Tevez is a good gamble for Ferguson because he is only a loan signing and if it doesn’t work out no big deal…in the meantime though it is good competition for Rooney and that position and cover for Rooney. No one should expect to play at your club and fighting for a place would be the name of the game. You had four players fighting for two places back in 1999, so why not five players fighting for two places this time round? Is that so different? Would it be bad?

When you had four into two they were all fit and not injury prone but this time you don’t have that so five into two with two injury prone seems reasonable to me.


and i dont know why you think we would (if he's a success) splash out 30M for Rooney's bench warmer it is clear that are main pairing will be Rooney & Tevez so buying a striker that would cost us 8-10M would probably be fighting a lost cause trying to get ahead of them two so instead of buying a new striker we can just use someone like fraizer Campbell who will want to impress but when the big guns return wont really mind going back to a bench warmer

Rooney and Tevez will NOT work it WILL fail if Tevez is the front man and Rooney behind him. If you play Rooney ahead of Tevez you will limit his strengths and have a very good player instead of a world class player. Saha is a finisher and player who will naturally attack space more than Rooney or Tevez and as good as Saha is he is no where near as good as some out and out forwards out there. Yet I would be amazed if your first choice wasn’t Saha Rooney or Saha Tevez as opposed to Rooney Tevez.

If you go with Rooney Tevez, you will be too much like a team trying to score the perfect goal and lack balance IMHO.

But we shall see what happens.
 
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Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

we will see if anderson is way better when he is 34... but actually scholes was pretty fucking good at 19

He was a excellent and promising striker at 19, he was a striker at the club when Robins was around.
 
Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

The way I see it is that Nani and Anderson was brought in to replace Giggs and Scholes respectively.Hargreaves was brought in as the final puzzle in the jigsaw,a mobile,harrassing midfielder.Tevez as a foil and cover for Rooney.Nothing much is wasted anyway.Prices on players are inflating everywhere.16Million for and english striker and 28Million for a brasilian rightback?? They are havin a laugh.
 
Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

The way I see it is that Nani and Anderson was brought in to replace Giggs and Scholes respectively.Hargreaves was brought in as the final puzzle in the jigsaw,a mobile,harrassing midfielder.Tevez as a foil and cover for Rooney.Nothing much is wasted anyway.Prices on players are inflating everywhere.16Million for and english striker and 28Million for a brasilian rightback?? They are havin a laugh.

Couldn't agree more...see it exactly the same way.
 
Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

That's VERY loaded isn't. I mean it implies that any buy equates to a panic buy and it says to me that maybe you think buying a striker is not the answer.

I don't agree with what could be implied there. I don't see why buying a striker or getting one in on loan has to be a panic move- doing so with the right judgement would be sound reasoning. If Ferguson does not get a striker in then you have to hope that Saha and Solskjaer stay fit and on the basis of history that to me would seem very prudent irrespective of what hindsight will show come may.

Even giving A Cole a pay as you play deal would be some reasonable cover...doesn't have to be anything dramatic.

It was a throaway point of view really, didnt expect it to recieve such scrutiny

I think the only people that are worried at the mo, are the supporters, I dont think for one minute that SAF is indeed panicking...

He knows just how near to fitness both ole and saha and is maybe happy with the four options we have....

Personally I do think we need a finisher, hence the sub-title to the thread, maybe as you said a loan deal would be the answer as opposed to buying a player...
 
Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

I think I said this earlier. We need to fix a loan deal similar to the Tevez deal where we get the option of making it permanent at the end.
The only problem with that would be if he currently plays for a top side cuz that would make him ineligible to play against his old team.
 
Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

So now we don't need a striker?

No!!!!!!!!!!!!


Jeez I thought you would have got that by now.

Stop flogging a dead horse and stop trying to win an argument that is already provably lost!!!

Look at the league position!!!

Stop trying to push the fact you are right when you are dead wrong!!!

You are like King Canute arguing against the tide. Like someone arguing that two and two make five, someone arguing that the sun cannot burn them while they are being burnt!

You are like someone out of George Orwells 1984 insisting that things have never been so good despite living in poverty with things very bad.

Stop trying to turn th world and logic on its head. Stop thinking that if we talk more you can somehow become right by mere words.

It doesn't matter how much we talk the sun will still rise in the east and set in the west, the tide will still not turn back for no man and Man Utd have needed a striker hence why they have suffered and where you are!!!!

I do not take any pleasure in the REALITY of this situation, because I want Man Utd to win the league and NOT Chelsea or Liverpool.

I hope Man Utd can get out of this position....but I would almost question that when faced with someone like you who cannot see the world for what it is and questions the nature of reality.
 
Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

:lol:
I think we got the message.
 
Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

il laugh my arse of if we win the league without getting a new striker :lmao:
 
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il laugh my arse of if we win the league without getting a new striker :lmao:

Does that mean I should laugh my arse off if you don't win the league?

Does that mean that if you win or loose the league we should use hindisght to try to bend the end result around what we want it to mean?

No this is rubbish.

I shall want you to win the league irrespective.

And my point has already been proven and can not be undone because my point is proven by where you are now and what has happend without the cover I have said you have required.

If you loose the title in May I will not be doing some asshole I told you so type comment and I would hope you would not do that either if the reverse is true.


:lol:
I think we got the message.

I can be a bit blunt it is true...sorry.
 
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Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

SAF was pretty chilled during todays press conference...

He said that...

United are looking into the mickeys role in the gaby situation...

He's got no problems with gaby, called him a "warrior" and lay all the blame on the agent...

Also laughed off rafa's rant...

No complaints regarding recent performnnce(s)...

And on that basis will win Vs spurs...

The team will be pretty much same as last sunday...

Anderson and Saha to make the bench...
 
Re: Manchester United Thread - We need a Striker!!

from Sofiaecho.com

'UK’s Manchester United made an official request for Tottenham’s Bulgarian striker Dimitar Berbatov, the striker’s manager Emil said.

Still, Tottenham is the one to decide whether the Bulgarian will be transferred to United, Danchev told Focus news agency.

Negotiations with the Manchester club can begin only after Tottenham gives its agreement. Tottenham’s management will decide on Berbatov’s fate “in the following couple day or two,” he said.

According to the manager, United’s offer was “quite interesting,” but he refused to mention the sum United was ready to pay for the player.

Danchev also said that he lacked information regarding Spanish Real Madrid's interest in Berbatov.'

Berbatov's agent Emil Dantchev to Gong.bg

"Tottenham's board confirmed that Manchester United made an enquiry as to Berbatov's availabilit. We told them our position, they told us theirs. In the end, we agreed that the board would decide within the next few days and let us know. It's obviously a very appealing possibility, but Dimitar has a contract with Tottenham and he needs Spurs' approval to negotiate. I cannot comment the stuff in the English papers. The truth of it is that
there is an inquiry, but everything else is speculation. It's clear though that Tottenham really want to keep Berbatov."

Not sure about this, agents have used Uniteds name before for different reasons....

Its a mouth watering prospect tho...

Either way we will know in the next few days....
 
Of course above quotes could have been from a while ago...

Today Jol has revealed he has turned down an approach for Dimitar Berbatov, who has been reportedly subject to interest from United.

"Berbatov loves me," Jol said. "If he is playing well he gets all the praise and if he is not doing well I have to tell him.

"I had one approach and I said 'I'd rather die than sell him'."
 
Guardian running the same story....

Manchester United target Berbatov, says agent
SOFIA, Aug 24 (Reuters) - Premier League champions Manchester United are interested in signing Tottenham Hotspur striker Dimitar Berbatov, the player's agent said on Friday.

"We had a 90-minute meeting with Tottenham's chairman Daniel Levy and with sporting director Damien Comolli over Dimitar's future," Emil Danchev told Bulgarian Darik radio.

"They informed us that there's a query from Manchester United about the possibility of Berbatov joining them."

The 26-year-old Bulgaria captain scored 12 league goals during the 2006-07 season after joining Spurs from Bayer Leverkusen.

"They (Tottenham bosses) let us believe that they want Dimitar to stay for another season because they have ambitions to finish among top four teams in the Premiership but... they told us they'll have a meeting in the next day or two to decide his future."

If this IS true, maybe all the this weeks press unsettled Berbatov, the phrase "no smoke without fire" comes to mind....

Sign him up fergie!!
 
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread - Agent links Berbatov to United!

Same news on the Sky Sports site.
If we do sign him, that would make it one hell of a spending spree.
 
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread - Agent links Berbatov to United!

Same news on the Sky Sports site.
If we do sign him, that would make it one hell of a spending spree.

cerainly would...

although we havent spent the amount touted in the press...

anderson and nani's deals are subject to conditions that could see the figures rising to the amounts quoted...

tevez is a loan deal...

hargreaves was the biggest outlay...

over £15mill recouped from smith, rossi and heinze...

no idea how the berbatov deal would be done, the only players I could see being used in the deal to lessen the finacial blow would be saha...
 
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread - Agent links Berbatov to United!

my friend told me united were interested in Richards? any truth to that?
 
Re: Manchester United Supporters Thread - Agent links Berbatov to United!

my friend told me united were interested in Richards? any truth to that?

yeah us and every other major european club...

siddy are trying to tie him down to another new deal cos they know, like SWP he will wanna leave for a club that actually attempts to win silverware every season...

personally would love to see him sign for us next year, take over from Neville at right back for a couple of years then suceed Rio at CB....
 
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