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Manchester United Thread

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Well done United...a deserved win. A blatant dive from Rooney but a good goal at the end.
 
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How feckin sweet is that................

It had to be us!!
 
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hahaha, i think that was a dive...hahaha, but anyhow, the game is over...we have to go unbeaten from now on...and the title is ours!!! hahaha

Blue Kezman a Red!
Mateja Kezman says Chelsea players will be cheering on Manchester United today - because victory over Arsenal would open up the title race. "It would be good for the title if Manchester United won on Sunday and fantastic for us of course," said the Chelsea striker. "So for one day - and one day only - everybody at Chelsea will be a Manchester United fan I think!"
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YEEEEEEESSSS!!!!
50 games unbeaten? Not at Old Trafford!
Congrats guys!! How appropriate that Arsenal's run end at our hands, MUHAHAHAHAHAHAA.
 
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hahaha, i've said that since the start of the season that we will end Arsenal's run....but didn't really believe that it actually happened!!!

*tears in eyes*
 
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Metallica said:
what dive ?, lol \\:D/

united would have only won anyway!! :lol: \\:D/
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Yeah I know, United deserved to win. Ferdinand was particularly good at the back.
 
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yeah rio was excellent today
also have to mention Phil Neville, i know he isnt a 'superstar' player but he does a great job for the team
why he hasnt been played more this season is beyond me
 
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and most deservant of the captains armband

-fb
 
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stiffler said:
yeah rio was excellent today
also have to mention Phil Neville, i know he isnt a 'superstar' player but he does a great job for the team
why he hasnt been played more this season is beyond me
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Ive been saying this for ages, why has he been playing o'shea? maybe now SAF will see u need a bit of experience in that midfield.
 
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loz said:
Ive been saying this for ages, why has he been playing o'shea? maybe now SAF will see u need a bit of experience in that midfield.
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yeah you have mate and i completely agree with you.

O'Shea is not a centre midfielder imo and i hope SAF will not play him there again, we certainly looked a stronger unit today in midfield than we have done all season
 
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i think SAF has learnt his lesson, no kleber, no djemba and certainly no oshea in the midfield will win you matches

-fb
 
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After not playing for awhile, Phil would something to prove, and when he does play his best he's really good. So what better time then the Arsenal match. Could Fergie have had this in mind when he didn't play him?
 
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i doubt it, and here's why: SAF didnt play phil, and he kept on benching him. do you think he did this to pump up phil and get bad results in return? i dont think SAF would sacrifice points to heighten one player's performance mentally

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From a neutral's POV today, I thought Arsenal were cheated out of a point. They didn't do anything to suggest they were going to score, but neither did Man Utd until a terrible refereeing decision gave them the upper hand. It was never a penalty in a million years, blatant dive (very similar to Owen's against Argentina in WC2002, leg went out but was pulled away before contact was made). You may say you never got a penalty when Ronaldo was fouled, but two wrongs don't make a right, and that situation wouldn't have arisen had Rooney not dived earlier on.

Also think Rio Ferdinand should have been sent off in the first half. Whether Ljungberg kicked the ball too far ahead to catch it again is irrelevant, Ferdinand missed the ball and took Ljungberg out, and so it's a foul and a red card due to him being the last man. How Gary Neville wasn't booked for his tackle from behind after Reyes had nutmegged him is beyond me, or how van Nistelrooy got away with going over the ball and trying to do Ashley Cole's knee either.

I think a draw would have been a fair result, because neither team played well enough to deserve a win.

*Puts kevlar vest on*
 
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ClassicD said:
How Gary Neville wasn't booked for his tackle from behind after Reyes had nutmegged him is beyond me, or how van Nistelrooy got away with going over the ball and trying to do Ashley Cole's knee either.
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Absolutely, they were both terrible challenges!
 
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ClassicD said:
(very similar to Owen's against Argentina in WC2002, leg went out but was pulled away before contact was made)
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No it wasn't similar. Contact was made on Owen (proved by replays before you try an argue), no contact was made on Rooney. Rest of your post I agree with.
 
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Mike21 said:
No it wasn't similar. Contact was made on Owen (proved by replays before you try an argue), no contact was made on Rooney. Rest of your post I agree with.
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thats bollocks it was almost a carbon copy

but who gives a shit now anyway, at the end of the day we will have enjoyed todays win of course, but lets put things in perspectives - we are behind everton and bolton in the league (and rightly so, they deserve to be up there)

we really need to take todays victory and get our season going
 
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Mike21 said:
No it wasn't similar. Contact was made on Owen (proved by replays before you try an argue), no contact was made on Rooney. Rest of your post I agree with.
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Must have been different replays you watched then, maybe they were The Official England Replays? ;) For me they were identical, neither were penalties but let's agree to disagree on the Owen one, that's not for debate in this thread.

Something more on topic is Sky and it's pundits reluctance to say Rooney dived, which was laughable. David Moyes totally bottled it in his assessment, saying he thinks it's never a penalty but that "Rooney done well to try and earn it" - which means "Rooney done well to dive and con the ref". Well what else can it mean, Moyes said there was no contact? Richard Keys desperately trying to pass it off as "one of these which the debate will rage on for a long time to come". Sorry, both your pundits Gerrard and Moyes, and the analyst Andy Gray all said it was never a penalty, but we can't have wee fat boy being labelled a diver eh?

If I was Sol Campbell I wouldn't have shaken his hand afterwards either, disgusting play.
 
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c'mon classicd thats the way football is today sadly
if a player 'cons' a ref and 'earns' a pen it is seen as good play unfortunately
i am not in any way justifying diving i hate it like most fans do, but i accept its a big part of the game in modern times

for e.g if Celtic were playing Rangers and a Celtic player 'earned' (DIVED!) a penalty and it meant you winning would you complain?
 
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stiffler said:
c'mon classicd thats the way football is today sadly
if a player 'cons' a ref and 'earns' a pen it is seen as good play unfortunately
i am not in any way justifying diving i hate it like most fans do, but i accept its a big part of the game in modern times

for e.g if Celtic were playing Rangers and a Celtic player 'earned' (DIVED!) a penalty and it meant you winning would you complain?
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Well said, mate. Well fucking said. Everyone hates to see United doing well, we are still the team to beat IMO. We have lost one this season, so have Chelsea and so have Arsenal. We have beat Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs. L`pool and Arsenal have not won against any of the big guns yet.

Bring it on.
 
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Of course not, that's not what I'm saying - I'm saying I don't blame Campbell for not shaking his hand, because I wouldn't either. I accept diving happens, but I don't accept it's a part of the game, it's cheating plain and simple. I wouldn''t be happy if Celtic won a match via a blatant dive, because that's all you'll get from the opposition, "you cheated to win the game", etc. I wouldn't mind if they won the match with a dive, if the opposition were diving as well, because then they'd have no cause to complain (I find this is more in European matches however).

But Rooney's wasn't even debateable, my immediate reaction when watching it as it happened was "Dive". Even if Campbell had made contact (which he didn't), Rooney would have merely fallen over his leg - when he arches his back, jumps about 3 feet in the air and puts his palms to the sky, you know it's a dive.

ninjabreakz, it's nothing to do with hating to see Man Utd do well, in fact I'd rather they did well to make the title race more interesting. But you are having a laugh by saying you're still the team to beat, that's Arsenal, and if you think you won the game today on merit you are deluding yourself IMO. You're not even second best, Chelsea are.
 
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erm... i wouldnt say he's a sore loser; especially after reading this:

Soccernet said:
'Rooney told my players he had not been touched,' fumed Wenger. 'There is a deep feeling of injustice among my players because it is quite clear there was no contact. It feels like we have been robbed.
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dont start insulting rooney, it was the official from across the pennines, Mike Riley to blame.

i am definitely not happy with the fact that the match was as slow as a snail moving across sticky tape. every time somebody (most notably c ronaldo and reyes) seemed to have worked for his space, he was hacked down; thats not my preferred style of football. unfortunately, manchester united and arsenal have been playing this type of huff-and-puff style for much too long now, something must be changed.

-fb


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rooney dived that's true the ref made a mistake but what about the pen he should
give when cole foul ronaldo in the box that was 100% pen the ref makes mistakes
to booth sides.
 
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Anyone remember a few games ago, V. Nistlerooy stayed up in the box after being hauled back, can't remember which game it was. Anyway, basically went past his marker, got pulled back rugby tackle style, tried to stay on his feet and then flailed and missed the shot. Both commentators said its great he stayed up, but if he'd just fallen with the contact, would have been a penalty.
Point is that is what its about, refs aren't perfect, make mistakes. I don't think theres a striker out there that isn't told to fall immediately on contact in the box. It sucks, its against the spirit of the game, but its the way its played. And please, let any arsenal supporter come on here and argue about that point, with good ole pires as perhaps my favourite example...

And I agree, its awful when talents like Reyes, Ronaldo can't make a move without being hacked down. I think should have been some sending offs to try and force things to cool down, but what can you do.
 
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