Manchester United Thread

jonneymendoza said:
Lucky win for united
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Definitely, after conceding from a corner which was a goal kick and then having a Jonny Evans own-goal with a setup from himself, we were riding our luck.

We were fortunate in the last 2 minutes and De Gea made a great save to keep it level.

But other than Hull basically had 0 shots in the second half.

Does worry me how nervy we get when teams start launching long balls at us in the last 5 minutes. Smalling and Evans should be able to handle that really.
 
Hrm, so injuries and suspensions means will be missing:
RVP, Jones, Rafael, Valencia, Nani, Fellaini, Welbeck and (apparently) Evra on Saturday, with Carrick and Fletcher both just back from injury.

Tough times.
 
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Godotelli said:
You've never witnessed tough times, my dear
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All things for football fans are relative. This is our lowest position at Chrismtas in 25 years, fewest points in 20 and we're playing dreadful football.

Just because your lows have been lower than ours, doesn't mean ours are not still lows.

If Bermuda win a single world cup qualifier I'm excited, and when we come bottom of our CONCACAF group I'm not that bothered. Obviously if the US or Mexico came bottom, it would be the end of the world.

Trust me, your pain will feel worse than it used to if Mansour gets bored and you have to compete within your means again.
 
At least we're winning ugly again. Those are he most important wins. Though we actually played pretty decent imho.. Good and bad to see the old Rooney coming out again. I'm not condoning it, but it seems like he needs to be a bit of a prick to be at his best. Glad Everton lost and Spurs drew.. Too bad Newcastle is suddenly competitive once more.
 
bebo said:
Janzau dove and Rooney dove n kicked a player too! The dives aren`t even near the box either just to draw a foul it seems. It`s abnormal stuff really.
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Please both of those were the kind 'going down easily' that happen 10x a match. There was contact both times. Writing the narrative without reality. You should get into the media!
 
beachryan said:
All things for football fans are relative. This is our lowest position at Chrismtas in 25 years, fewest points in 20 and we're playing dreadful football.

Just because your lows have been lower than ours, doesn't mean ours are not still lows.

If Bermuda win a single world cup qualifier I'm excited, and when we come bottom of our CONCACAF group I'm not that bothered. Obviously if the US or Mexico came bottom, it would be the end of the world.

Trust me, your pain will feel worse than it used to if Mansour gets bored and you have to compete within your means again.
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Minus a war in the UAE, there's more chance of CR signing for Utd than that happening. Even then, our 'means' would still be higher than previously.
 
YoungGun_UK said:
I'LL TAKE THAT! :APPLAUD:

onto the next one, try and keep this run going now really.
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Looks like we did but holy hell that was some seriously abysmal reffing again. Danny is quickly changing my opinion about him and Evra these days is a better attacker than defender. While I love Chicha he shows again that he s too weak as a lone striker. But hey were looking more like Utd again. And holding on to this without the likes of Rooney, Jones, Rafael, Valencia and RvP only makes it sweeter.
 
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Kinda depressing and weird to know that had we not stupidly thrown away some pt at home we d be right up there. Just dont see Everton and Newcastle maintaining their form so top 4 seems entirely plausible. Hope we can surprise with a great AMF signing in January but we ll prolly have to wait til the Summer. A player like Fer looked way better today than Cleverley imho and until Welbeck introduction we had no connection or control in midfield.

Rooney and RvP have the gift to make up for our poor midfield by holding up the ball or tracking back. Welbeck does it with pure pace. Chicha needs a solid midfield because he s a poacher first and foremost. He might be a lot more effective in Arsenal or Chelsea s lineup.

Also.. Who still thinks Kagawa will come around?
 
Another three points, nice Birthday present for myself :P

Definitely looked a little lost until Welbeck's introduction, but I still feel he isn't as good as people think his form is too patchy imo.

And Kagawa could still come around, but that said he needs to play in the hole for his ability to really show and I just don't think he has the size to compete there against the types of midfield/defence the Prem brings.
 
So mid-season report time...we're 3 points off the top 4, despite looking bloody awful for a lot of the year. We've been missing our best two players from last season for the majority of the campaign, and our only real 'surprise' has been an 18 year old youth team player.

In theory, you'd say okay, not so bad, Moyes tends to be good in the second half of seasons and we're in a spot of form. But we've also been so poor on the pitch that I just don't know what to expect.

Will be interesting. There will be two very good teams to miss out on the CL this season, and from the first half you'd say ourselves and Tottenham have looked the worst of the top bunch.

2 days til the window opens...anyone expecting anything at all?
 
We could do with Cabaye if were willing to have someone come in with a immediate effect to improve things, adding him and letting Anderson go in the Summer and we'd still have room for that 'big time' signing in midfield too like a Koke or even Gundogan.

also what's Coentrao up to? him on loan for the remainder of the season and depending on how that goes a permanent possibly in the Summer would be good business.

Regarding our position, we've done really well in the last 2-3 weeks to sort our self's out and at least put us in a competitive spot for the top four, big game against Tottenham coming up which we need to win.

just need to keep winning now really, and take each spot as it comes, first need to break into that top 4.
 
SAf book ...what incredible insight

When it comes to the football business itself Ferguson is much less reticent. He lets us in on the full range of his suspicions. In one of the best scenes in the book, and one of the very few capable of raising a smile, he describes the moment he tried to seal the purchase of Wayne Rooney from Everton in 2004. He was in his office, and the Everton chairman, Bill Kenwright, was weeping copiously. Through his tears Kenwright makes a phone call and hands the receiver to Ferguson. On the other end an elderly female voice berates him: ‘Don’t you dare think you’re getting that boy for nothing. That boy’s worth fifty million pounds.’

This is Kenwright’s mother. Ferguson can’t quite believe it:

David Moyes was giving me the eyes. For a minute I thought it was a get-up, a performance. Bill’s background was in theatre, after all. It occurred to me while all this was going on that I ought to check Wayne’s medical records. Was there something physically wrong we had missed? Was this a ruse to push the price up? … Was I being lured into a gigantic sting?

Ferguson is in no doubt that football is a cut-throat business. Give your opponents an inch and they will take you for all you’ve got. But this doesn’t just apply to opposing teams. It includes members of your own club, whether in the boardroom or on the pitch.

That’s why Ferguson sets such a high price on loyalty, because the people you can’t rely on are the people who will screw you over. There’s nothing in between. Once Ferguson begins to suspect a player of divided loyalties – to his family, his friends, his image, his career, anything over and above Ferguson’s Manchester United – he starts to look for ways to let him go.

He picked up some of these lessons from his mentor, the great Scottish manager Jock Stein, a more benign presence than Ferguson but no less ruthless.

Stein taught him never to fall in love with his own players, ‘because they’ll two-time you’. He also told him never to think that the owners of a club had the manager’s interests at heart.

‘Remember, Alex,’ Stein warned him, ‘we are not them. They run the club. We are their workers.’ ‘It was us and them,’ Ferguson adds, ‘the landowner and the serf.’
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Makes SAF sound like paranoia himself but I guess that's not surprising after all the stories/events over the years. Guess I haven't been burned quite enough to be so pessimistic about others haha.

P.s. Kind of a shit first half w a total dick of a Rooney move. In a way he would make a better Chelsea player haha. Kinda interesting to see though how relatively amicable Utd and Spurs players are with each other.
 
Antonio Valencia.

Sums up the the fall we've taken as a club, how is he a first team player at United is beyond me, absolute crap.
 
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