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so do you guys think Moyes will stay untill the end of season? i realy am curious about the next transfer window in united...
 
"They are coming to Old Trafford and we will make it as hard and as difficult for them as possible."

We sure did! really made Newcastle work for that win today. :))
 
PIPA23 said:
so do you guys think Moyes will stay untill the end of season? i realy am curious about the next transfer window in united...
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Yes, no doubt in my mind.

The transfer window will be important, every manager needs to bring in a few of their own signings and sadly Moyes was let down in the previous transfer window.
 
YoungGun_UK said:
playing devils advocate to that he did bring in a 27M player, he's just a bit crap.
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I said a few :P

Fellaini is performing like plenty of our players, without confidence and belief, so I'm reluctant to be overly critical of him, the fact we ended up paying over the odds for him can't have helped him or with the supporters expectations either.
 
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Time to buy half the Dortmund team, the Barcelona and Madrid want outs, and Klopp or hell Klinsmann after the WC. Surely we can finally cash in some of those billions of dollars in value?

And I think I was in denial regarding the importance of Carrick.. He really is that important.
 
:LOL: The worst thing was by the end of it, I didn't give a shit.

We were so bad, we didn't even deserve a draw. It was like watching 11 strangers playing in the same side for the first time.

Still annoys me we didn't bother going for Cabaye while he was still at Lille. Obviously he might have not fulfilled his potential like his teammate Gervinho but it would've been a decent small price punt.
 
bebo said:
hahaha!
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Well i think that without any intention to laugh... Why would any BVB or Madrid player sign for Moyes other than the club not wanting them... Klopp and Ancelotti are other league than Moyes. Moyes though is experienced in PL and has long consistency.. United might be after all another league for him as well. But as LFC supporter i enjoy that.
 
Well that was enjoyable. Credit to Newcastle, they played their role to perfection. Soak up pressure, contain our non-existent midfield and then score.

Things really aren't going our way though are they? Before the Newcastle goal, Evra rattles the post, it's going in and Anita's arm keeps out. Not even saying it's handball, but it's that kind of season. Then a few minutes later, Evra heads it, bounces back off the Newcastle player luckily, and he's through for their goal. Before than Newcastle had barely entered the United half in 20 minutes.

The last 15 minutes was the worry though. We didn't really create much. The seige didn't come. Players look done.

I never thought Moyes would be this bad. I don't care about winning the league, but the players are yelling at each other, pointing at each other and not playing anywhere near their level. They look confused and angry. And that comes down to the manager.
 
I`m just remembering this community in the past. That comment wouldn`t even circulate to a reality. After, Arsenal lost at OT, this thread had a different tone. Its been a few weeks and it is what it is. So , I laugh w/o being disrespectful and more candidate on how fast things change.
 
It is worth mentioning we're playing with a midfield of Jones and Cleverley. That could literally be the worst central midfield partnership that started in the premier league today.

Up notes are that Hernandez worked hard and looked okay, and Janujaz was excellent again. Rafael completed the 90, and Zaha got a look in! So lots of silver linings :)
 
On the up side: it is kinda fun to not expect a win. :SMUG:

Kinda sad though that we could ve been right in the mix still with the amount of points all the other teams have been dropping.
 
So, am I allowed to say I don't think Moyes is good enough for the job yet? It's one thing to say he's had a tough start. And another to say it's a transition period, but you can not say losing two games in 4 days at Old Trafford is down to being a bit green in the ways of managing a top squad.

Especially when one of those clubs is supposedly in the same situation as us, a new manager from an old manager who was there for years. Also I think I'd like to think that it's becoming nervy thinking what Martinez is achieving (the chance to jump into 4th today, joint 2nd only on goal difference, even if they are needing an unlikely win vs Arsenal) with Everton currently compared to what Moyes did, puts into question whether the supposedly successful spell he enjoyed at Everton ever quite reached the heights he could have done with the players at his disposal.

Even his decisions vs Newcastle made no sense, chasing the game vs Newcastle at Home by only One goal? Best throw in an untested, inexperienced kid from Crystal Palace who still looks a little lost for confidence right now. That's not quite gunna cut it though, best throw in a (albeit talented) midfielder who's struggled for form for about 5 years now.

The fact we are 9th, at a time when usually we'd be clicking into gear and rising into the top 2 places of the table screams out that we are lacking something from the last season at least, Moyes inherited a team of champions and turned them into a mid-table squad in half a year. Without Rooney I'd dread to think were we'd be, and I am happy to admit that I was wrong about Rooney at the start of the year. I had no idea how much we would ever have to rely on one player like this season, it never truly happened under Fergie, even when RvP was firing United to the title we had the players to cope with the slack when he fell apart, the team had a fighting spirit in them that allowed us to pull it out when it was needed.

Next month will be important to Moyes' future in the club, I hope for his sake he can pull of a signing off actual ability. Instead of an over sized pube bush with the mobility of an erect penis and the ball control of a sagging scrotum.
 
Aboutreika18 said:
:LOL: The worst thing was by the end of it, I didn't give a shit.
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it seems like nobody did , its 2nd match in old traford where fans leave stadium at minute 87 its such a shame there are around 5-7 minutes left and there could easly be a comeback if you support your team , but even if that dosnt happen how could you let your team down after that ?
 
TheJinxedOne said:
So, am I allowed to say I don't think Moyes is good enough for the job yet? It's one thing to say he's had a tough start. And another to say it's a transition period, but you can not say losing two games in 4 days at Old Trafford is down to being a bit green in the ways of managing a top squad.

Especially when one of those clubs is supposedly in the same situation as us, a new manager from an old manager who was there for years. Also I think I'd like to think that it's becoming nervy thinking what Martinez is achieving (the chance to jump into 4th today, joint 2nd only on goal difference, even if they are needing an unlikely win vs Arsenal) with Everton currently compared to what Moyes did, puts into question whether the supposedly successful spell he enjoyed at Everton ever quite reached the heights he could have done with the players at his disposal.

Even his decisions vs Newcastle made no sense, chasing the game vs Newcastle at Home by only One goal? Best throw in an untested, inexperienced kid from Crystal Palace who still looks a little lost for confidence right now. That's not quite gunna cut it though, best throw in a (albeit talented) midfielder who's struggled for form for about 5 years now.

The fact we are 9th, at a time when usually we'd be clicking into gear and rising into the top 2 places of the table screams out that we are lacking something from the last season at least, Moyes inherited a team of champions and turned them into a mid-table squad in half a year. Without Rooney I'd dread to think were we'd be, and I am happy to admit that I was wrong about Rooney at the start of the year. I had no idea how much we would ever have to rely on one player like this season, it never truly happened under Fergie, even when RvP was firing United to the title we had the players to cope with the slack when he fell apart, the team had a fighting spirit in them that allowed us to pull it out when it was needed.

Next month will be important to Moyes' future in the club, I hope for his sake he can pull of a signing off actual ability. Instead of an over sized pube bush with the mobility of an erect penis and the ball control of a sagging scrotum.
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Way too soon to write things like that.
Years ago (i'm old enough to know) United fans wrote the same kind of things in the readers' sections of papers about Ferguson when he took over...
I already said this in this thread, one cannot argue with all what Ferguson won, but the true genius lies with the Man Utd board who had enough patience with therelatively unsuccesfull manager Ferguson was in his first seasons.
At the time that was much easier because they were succesfull 20 years before Ferguson took over...an FA Cup win was a big success for the fans at the time.

Now you have fans who never lived disappointments (to put it blunt: lots of glory hunters) and who are not satisfied with an FA Cup win.

The more patient United fans say that they will be satisfied if Moyes only gets a 4th place...to be honest, i think that would be a massive achievement with this squad.

Last year RVP was fantastic and made the difference for United. People tend to forget that RVP is still an injury prone player and that relying on him is a big gamble.

United had a very disappointing transfer period, but is Moyes to blame ? I haven't seen yesterday's match, but against both Everton and Southampton United could easily have won and those points would make a huge difference.

Moyes deserves at least 3 seasons credit before judging him. If he is sacked before, that is a big failure, but not for him...for the club.

Did you guys really think being the successor of Ferguson is the biggest gift to get ? If i was Moyes i would have refused and waited until the successor was sacked because of the pressure of the younger fans.

Nothing personal jinxed one, but you are only used to success...i used to be a Man Utd fan when the club was relegated against City after a goal from one of their own legends (Dennis Law)...that is failure...

To have lived that puts all the silverware in perspective...
 
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Ferguson inherited an absolute mess of a team. Players were unfit, out boozing all the time and were not a bunch of winners.

Moyes has inherited a team with 2 of the best strikers in world football, the best young goalkeeper, a pretty decent set of defenders, a few good wingers and a gaping hole in midfield.

Comparing what Ferguson was 'given' and Moyes has been given is not really fair imo.

I do think the board will have patience with Moyes, because the board is there to make money, and Moyes is cheap. Firing him is expensive. Even if we don't make the CL, I'd wager our increase in commerical revenue will more than cover the loss.

Financially, Moyes is a masterstroke. The only time he'll be at risk if the brands stop calling us. Then he'd be gone in a heartbeat.
 
Well beach,what did Myes inherite from Ferguson ?

A team with an overweight and demotivated world class forward who wanted to leave United for Chelsea, with a class striker who uncharacteristically just had two injury-free seasons and before that was a good striker (nothing more at all).

Also there is no discussion who the best young GK is: Courtois (despite Zenith). But yes De Gea is a great GK. Moyes inherited a very unbalanced team (basically that is what your post is saying) without CMF, without long term solution at CB and with one ageing LB who can't defend to save his life (and that is not my opinion about Evra, but the opinion of the entire L'Equipe football desk).

Now what did Ferguson inherit ? Very good players. Yes there was a drinking culture at United, but that was the case in almost every Engish top flight team...

In short: you underestimate the team Ferguson inherited andyou are seriously overestimating the current crop of players (as a matter of fact Hernandez is a world class striker too).
 
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't think this squad is anywhere near the other big teams (Arsenal, City, Chelsea) but I do believe it's firmly in line with the other contenders. Obviously midfield is an issue, but other than that we're pretty good.

Put another way, this is not a 9th placed squad, even despite the deficiencies.

Anyway, he'll be given time, but I just wish I saw some coherence in our play. We look like strangers out there. There's no movement, no passing options, no one-touch play. It's terrible football, basically.

If not for set pieces, we'd barely have scored this year.
 
LFC Albania said:
OMG I didnt know people can go this far !!!!!

YouTube - Fan kills self after Manchester United loss
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There are loonies everywhere.

Gerd, with all due respect but even though I get what you're saying about a lot of United fans/supporters/whatever the fuck not knowing how good they have it sounds a bit like listening to grandma explain how spoiled kids are these days. The status quo has shifted so while I'm with you we need to be patient.. You should expect that fans throw their hands up in the air out of frustration when suddenly teams that haven't won a game at Old Trafford in decades start winning a game there.
 
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dplane said:
Gerd, with all due respect but even though I get what you're saying about a lot of United fans/supporters/whatever the fuck not knowing how good they have it sounds a bit like listening to grandma explain how spoiled kids are these days. The status quo has shifted so while I'm with you we need to be patient.. You should expect that fans throw their hands up in the air out of frustration when suddenly teams that haven't won a game at Old Trafford in decades start winning a game there.
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LOL.
The fact is that i am grandma (well grandpa).
It is good for football that big clubs have bad patches.
The way football is organized nowadays by FIFA, UEFA, the FA's and the clubs is that the big clubs become bigger and the gap with the smaller clubs is getting bigger.

Therefore it is great that clubs like Liverpool and Everton are above clubs like Man Utd and Spurs (who have invested a huge amount of money - and remember i am a Spurs fan). It is great that Arsenal are above City and Chelsea...i hope it will be the same at the end of the competition (which i doubt).

And about the influence of mangers: that is grossly overrated. United aren't bad because of Moyes, and the yweren't world beaters because of Ferguson... If a club has patience with a manager that has a clear vision then the results will in the end always be very good. Wit hEverton Moyes showed that he had a clear vision...he needs time to imose himself with United. Don't you think that this manager without silverware needs time to win over a dressing room with plenty of silverware (and thus big ego's ) ?

Moyes needs time to get rid of the elder players and needs to bring in "his" players who will fight for him. The current crop clearly doesn't...
 
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