Liverpool Thread
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Re: Liverpool Thread
He does have quite a few games under his belt, but hasn't got experience playing for a Premiership club. I'm not sure if you've seen him play? I go to the Valley as often as a can (provided it doesn't clash with a United game) and my verdict on him is this:
Last season his talent was obvious to see - to be one of the best players in the side at only 17 isn't an easy thing to do. His vision, passing & positioning is frightening at times, and he's not bad from set pieces & dead ball situations. He could probably do with bulking up a little bit, but that'll probably happen in
the next year or so anyway.
The only thing that is a slight concern is his mentality. This season he hasn't shown as much potential. Whether that's because Charlton dropped another division and he doesn't want to be there, or whether it's because bigger clubs were scouting him, I'm not sure. There was an instance away at Leyton Orient this season where the fans didn't think he was pulling his weight and let him know it. Maybe that's a bit harsh on a youngster, but it's part of the game. He didn't respond too well to it and since then hasn't been in the team that much.
Last summer he turned down an offer from Chelsea (the fee was around £3.5m) because he wanted to be playing first team football. He was also hoping West Ham went in for him as that's his preferred destination.
So, to sum up, for £1.7m you've got a bargain for a quality young Englishman. If he can live up to his potential, & Liverpool can develop and improve his game, don't be suprised to see him breaking into the first team.
Liverpool also have reserves teamand i would not say he is unexperienced..
since 2008 he played 42 matches for Charlton 1st team, scoring 7 goals, he played 24 matches this season ofr Charlton first team at his age..i would tell he has the experience
He does have quite a few games under his belt, but hasn't got experience playing for a Premiership club. I'm not sure if you've seen him play? I go to the Valley as often as a can (provided it doesn't clash with a United game) and my verdict on him is this:
Last season his talent was obvious to see - to be one of the best players in the side at only 17 isn't an easy thing to do. His vision, passing & positioning is frightening at times, and he's not bad from set pieces & dead ball situations. He could probably do with bulking up a little bit, but that'll probably happen in
the next year or so anyway.
The only thing that is a slight concern is his mentality. This season he hasn't shown as much potential. Whether that's because Charlton dropped another division and he doesn't want to be there, or whether it's because bigger clubs were scouting him, I'm not sure. There was an instance away at Leyton Orient this season where the fans didn't think he was pulling his weight and let him know it. Maybe that's a bit harsh on a youngster, but it's part of the game. He didn't respond too well to it and since then hasn't been in the team that much.
Last summer he turned down an offer from Chelsea (the fee was around £3.5m) because he wanted to be playing first team football. He was also hoping West Ham went in for him as that's his preferred destination.
So, to sum up, for £1.7m you've got a bargain for a quality young Englishman. If he can live up to his potential, & Liverpool can develop and improve his game, don't be suprised to see him breaking into the first team.
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DagsJT
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Re: Liverpool Thread
Cheers Jamesy
Cheers Jamesy
UJSupanova
@Bobothy
Re: Liverpool Thread
Yeh of course there's been a few on the continent, but i can't think of any from the Premier League.
Yeh of course there's been a few on the continent, but i can't think of any from the Premier League.
UJSupanova
@Bobothy
Re: Liverpool Thread
My point wasn't that all tall players are good defenders, my point was that there aren't very many successful short defenders, not in the Premier League at least.
Actually, just found out that Ricardo Carvalho is half an inch under 6' so maybe he's the one exception that proves the rule although it is only half an inch.
My point wasn't that all tall players are good defenders, my point was that there aren't very many successful short defenders, not in the Premier League at least.
Actually, just found out that Ricardo Carvalho is half an inch under 6' so maybe he's the one exception that proves the rule although it is only half an inch.
PIPA23
retired :)
- 21 June 2007
Re: Liverpool Thread
thanx Jamesy for the words..
thanx Jamesy for the words..
PIPA23
retired :)
- 21 June 2007
Re: Liverpool Thread
this will eventualy rise up to 3 milions i think in the time..
he wanted to join us and we also have a buisnis with Charlton for future deals..loaning players etc..
this will eventualy rise up to 3 milions i think in the time..
he wanted to join us and we also have a buisnis with Charlton for future deals..loaning players etc..
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DagsJT
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So Liverpool-hater Tim will soon be getting some of our youth and reserve players at his club. I wonder if he'll still hate us when half of Charlton are Liverpool players
So Liverpool-hater Tim will soon be getting some of our youth and reserve players at his club. I wonder if he'll still hate us when half of Charlton are Liverpool players
Jumbo_
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Don't take this the wrong way but if he didn't move to Chelsea for wanting first team football, then why has he gone to you lot? You've hardly got a great record with young players recently. Hope it works out and it's not another wasted English talent.
Don't take this the wrong way but if he didn't move to Chelsea for wanting first team football, then why has he gone to you lot? You've hardly got a great record with young players recently. Hope it works out and it's not another wasted English talent.
Re: Liverpool Thread
I knew what you meant; I was simply reminding us all of the last short Argentinian cb to move to the reds.
I concur with jumbo too; history would suggest he ain't got a chance of breaking thru!
I knew what you meant; I was simply reminding us all of the last short Argentinian cb to move to the reds.
I concur with jumbo too; history would suggest he ain't got a chance of breaking thru!
UJSupanova
@Bobothy
Re: Liverpool Thread
jumbo's talkin about Shelvey, i was talking about Otomendi
jumbo's talkin about Shelvey, i was talking about Otomendi
TikTikTikTikTik
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- 7 August 2004
- Team
- Liverpool
Re: Liverpool Thread
Just been watching the CL semi, reminded me why I hated Chelsea so much. Really wouldn't want Mourinho managing Liverpool. The teams systematically cheat and indimitate the ref at every oppertunity.....and they play crap football most of the time aswell. Horrible.
Atleast Manu play decent football under Fergie......
Just been watching the CL semi, reminded me why I hated Chelsea so much. Really wouldn't want Mourinho managing Liverpool. The teams systematically cheat and indimitate the ref at every oppertunity.....and they play crap football most of the time aswell. Horrible.
Atleast Manu play decent football under Fergie......
Jumbo_
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Inter cheat?! Ok fair call, but what about Barca? Busquets is a whore.
Inter cheat?! Ok fair call, but what about Barca? Busquets is a whore.
Re: Liverpool Thread
I know.
I was multi tasking without multi quoting :-D
jumbo's talkin about Shelvey, i was talking about Otomendi
I know.
I was multi tasking without multi quoting :-D
TikTikTikTikTik
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- 7 August 2004
- Team
- Liverpool
Re: Liverpool Thread
Yeah I know. Just because of the fact that nobody is allowed to even breath on a Barca player makes me want Inter to win.
But atleast there is a modicum of footballing ambition in Barca. Inter don't even want to play, which is fine as Liverpool do that aswell, and is a skill. Horrible for a neutral but still worthy of praise that they can make Barca look dire.
But the diving, and posturing, and whinging, and whining,......it's too much. So much so that even the commentator isn't even trying to be neutral. The first moment Inter started their hounding of the ref the commentator said; "And here the axis of evil starts". I'm not even editing...that's precisely what he said. And before the game kicked off; "Well Inter will have to play this game with only 11 men as Mourinho's Portugese mate isn't refereeing this match".
Yeah I know. Just because of the fact that nobody is allowed to even breath on a Barca player makes me want Inter to win.
But atleast there is a modicum of footballing ambition in Barca. Inter don't even want to play, which is fine as Liverpool do that aswell, and is a skill. Horrible for a neutral but still worthy of praise that they can make Barca look dire.
But the diving, and posturing, and whinging, and whining,......it's too much. So much so that even the commentator isn't even trying to be neutral. The first moment Inter started their hounding of the ref the commentator said; "And here the axis of evil starts". I'm not even editing...that's precisely what he said. And before the game kicked off; "Well Inter will have to play this game with only 11 men as Mourinho's Portugese mate isn't refereeing this match".
Liverbird
Omar Comin Yo
- 24 July 2009
Re: Liverpool Thread
"Ok Dirk, lets try it again. This is how you make a pass"
"Ok Dirk, lets try it again. This is how you make a pass"
PIPA23
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- 21 June 2007
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just becouse the cam seen that one moment dont make him whore..there was a much biger whore plaing in United between 2003 - 2009...in that matter offcourse.
and there is many more of them in Inter team tonight...
just becouse the cam seen that one moment dont make him whore..there was a much biger whore plaing in United between 2003 - 2009...in that matter offcourse.
and there is many more of them in Inter team tonight...
Jumbo_
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Re: Liverpool Thread
Busquets does it all the time, he's a cunt.
Busquets does it all the time, he's a cunt.
PIPA23
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- 21 June 2007
Re: Liverpool Thread
yes the money in current football is a big factor that players make fool of theirselfs in front of whole world watching..
yes the money in current football is a big factor that players make fool of theirselfs in front of whole world watching..
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DagsJT
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Re: Liverpool Thread
Omens. Gotta love 'em
Omens. Gotta love 'em
PIPA23
retired :)
- 21 June 2007
Re: Liverpool Thread
creepy it is..
creepy it is..
TikTikTikTikTik
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- 7 August 2004
- Team
- Liverpool
Re: Liverpool Thread
It's everytime Liverpool are close to winning something. Last year they had one aswell, same for the 2007 final and for the 2005 final. I guess everything being equal it should mean Liverpool will win the EL this year.
It's everytime Liverpool are close to winning something. Last year they had one aswell, same for the 2007 final and for the 2005 final. I guess everything being equal it should mean Liverpool will win the EL this year.
PLF
Legend
- 2 August 2004
ThunderShock
Non-League
- 29 April 2010
Re: Liverpool Thread
Come on you Reds!!!!!
Come on you Reds!!!!!
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DagsJT
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Re: Liverpool Thread
We've got to go for it. Aguero and Forlan will score a goal so we need to go out with the aim of getting three.
Can't wait
We've got to go for it. Aguero and Forlan will score a goal so we need to go out with the aim of getting three.
Can't wait
Andy
Evoweb Jester/Stadboardmaker.
Re: Liverpool Thread
Yeah thats a good attitude to have,rather than being cautious after getting one or two,but untill/if that happens i think it will be a night of frayed nerves i'm afraid. C'MON.
Yeah thats a good attitude to have,rather than being cautious after getting one or two,but untill/if that happens i think it will be a night of frayed nerves i'm afraid. C'MON.