bebo
Looking for a Manager
Im Div 6 (FUT) the games are so hard its nail biting(low scoring mostly ,occasional draws)...getting games are many depending the hrs though.
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Im Div 6 (FUT) the games are so hard its nail biting(low scoring mostly ,occasional draws)...getting games are many depending the hrs though.
zeemeister
foxy engine
Its annoying as hell when you try to play a good game playing around for space and openings and the other player is hell bent on pressurising and pumping balls to the wingers or strikers ASAP.
Lons
AMIGA 1200 HARDCORE FAN!
- 15 December 2007
The worst Fifa ever since 08. Online = joke. Sprint sprint and sprint .Shooting= random . Gooden goals 45'90, momentum etc Right now Fifa is typical arcade game. Fifa 09> Fifa 15 
im online player. Keepers random etc Players models ? Terrible.... Sorry
im online player. Keepers random etc Players models ? Terrible.... Sorry
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The worst Fifa ever since 08. Online = joke. Sprint sprint and sprint .Shooting= random . Gooden goals 45'90, momentum etc Right now Fifa is typical arcade game. Fifa 09> Fifa 15
cant speak for online but from a single player pov your post is complete rubbish..
zeemeister
foxy engine
Rubbish? Not at all
Hell why do you think people are flaffing around with sliders?
Also momentum and scripting is much worse offline.
I am all for being a fan of a series but blind loyalty is just going to hurt you and EA as it already is with FIFA15
Placebo
Ԁlɐɔǝqo
Perhaps for the same reason we've been doing it for the last 4 (or is it 5?) years, we can mould the offline experience into how we want the game to play out.
He's talking rubbish about the online game I'm playing aswell as far as I'm concerned.
It's not blind loyalty either. I'm too old for all that crap and frankly I find those comments childish. If I didn't like the game, I wouldn't play it. I hate assisted settings as the game is a farce played that way so I don't play it that way. Why would I play a game I don't like? I don't like PES. I play the football I want on FIFA and the game flows nicely unlike the juddery mess of PES (my opinion, not everyone's) so I don't play it. I think it's a poor game and that's that. I like FIFA again this year. I enjoy the overall experience more. Playing with my sons. Co op and clubs with mates. It caters for me but the way I play the game, it is far from a mess online and I still do not have an issue with the defending. Even if I go 1 on 1 with the attacker, I tend to read them pretty well.
People used to moan that slow defenders caught up with quick attackers too easily. Now the quick players run faster, there's still moaning. Some people are never happy and moan for moanings sake. Just like my ex wife. The ball isn't a magnet which you have to home in on, defend the space snd have patience. I played my mate yesterday and he's a tricky bugger but he just said I was defending great against him as I don't dive in like most people do. It's pretty simple in my opinion. Patience. Defend the space. Jockey and timing. Think they've done a decent job of it myself. You won't find me moaning about that side of things. It's the player on the end of the controller in my opinion.
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I'm an offline player, using Matt's sliders, have taken the jump to world class, longer halves, and it is the most fun I've had in a football game, by quite some distance. It is nothing short of sensational.
Player individuality is shining through like the PES glory days. Quintero, what a player in the hole!
I have no inclination at all for the online speedfest, which resembles an ice-hockey sim. That isn't football.
Now can you use tweaked sliders online? If so this has real potential for a manual league etc.
Player individuality is shining through like the PES glory days. Quintero, what a player in the hole!
I have no inclination at all for the online speedfest, which resembles an ice-hockey sim. That isn't football.
Now can you use tweaked sliders online? If so this has real potential for a manual league etc.
Jamezinho
Golden Boot Winner
This game is excellent offline and I've not had to do much messing about with sliders. Pro difficulty with a few tweaks is a lot of fun. Best football game since PES2011 I think.
I've been waiting for about 10 minutes and still haven't found a game. This is my first time trying to find a manual seasons game this year. Never really had an issue before.
Generally I find the matchmaking experience to have worsened. Playing as Arsenal, I am constantly picked against far better teams with PSG, Chelsea and City most common. You'd expect a little more variation, sometimes getting teams that are worse than your own, but that seems to have gone.
It feels like, for whatever reason, the pool of people I'm searching against is much narrower than before, which would certainly explain how I can't find a manual game on a Saturday morning. I'm pretty sure I was able to find manual games all the time nearly immediately last year :/
You can't slam people's opinions based on your experiences on manual against other's experiences on, and against assisted. You keep doing it and it's simply unfair. I like playing on manual too. It's the way FIFA plays best and it's the way FIFA has played best for many, many years. Yet, I am struggling to find games on Seasons with manual. I'm sure, therefore, I won't be able to find manual co-op games and there isn't even an option for manual clubs games.
I could point out the issues with manual, and the huge portion of FIFA that is in no way affected by control setting, but I don't need to. You're wrong because you're playing a hugely different variant of the game. FIFA is a total mess on assisted, which sadly, is the only option I seem to have. It's the default setting. If it's broken, as you seem to readily accept, so is the game.
Slow defenders still catch up with quick attackers too easily, I don't really think that has changed at all. It's far easier to get past them now, they still get caught by similarly quick opponents, and struggle to leave behind slower ones.
Again, if you're basing your experience off manual, you simply aren't having to deal with what defending is actually like, because you don't have to cope with how outrageous passing is in FIFA 15. The sheer pace of it, the ability to so easily play perfect lobbed through balls and perfect blind passes, makes defending competently an absolute nightmare. You can defend relatively well on manual because you can far more easily guess what someone is going to do because manual creates far more realistic constraints on the passing game. You're also protected hugely against people trying more ambitious passes, because they're much more likely to go wrong due to human error.
ED: Finally got into a manual match after about twenty minutes. Great.
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Yep, totaly agree. My only change was sprint speed to 30 and first touch error to 100. Has extreme has it may seem, it doesn´t impact the gameplay that much, very rarely I see mistakes by both CPU and user teams. In the rain there are more mistakes but even then its a completely normal gameplay. All other sliders are default and this game is just a gem. Pure joy!!!
Nobleknight
Manual Player
I don't get most of people here keep complaining about assisted exploits online yet they don't even try to learn manual?! Since passing options been introduced into football games, assisted became the most boring arcade crap in both football games.
They make it like that for a reason.Only small number of people like to spend effort to play the game in the way it should be played. Don't start talking about individuality because assisted isn't realistic when you can hit the perfect ball no matter what.
The majority of people love playing the arcade way.That means scoring crazy goals at an impossible angle as if all the players are like Zlatan.I like to keep it real. Manual might not be perfect nor the answer to everything but at least it requires skills, knowing your players well and play like a real player. It also hugely minimize all of non sense that happens on assisted esp online.
That's my opinion. If you're not willing to learn manual then deal with the arcade fest online. I played against the best players I have ever played on manual fifa14 PS4.Against Italians and Spanish ppl, it was the most tactical games I've ever played against a real person.
They make it like that for a reason.Only small number of people like to spend effort to play the game in the way it should be played. Don't start talking about individuality because assisted isn't realistic when you can hit the perfect ball no matter what.
The majority of people love playing the arcade way.That means scoring crazy goals at an impossible angle as if all the players are like Zlatan.I like to keep it real. Manual might not be perfect nor the answer to everything but at least it requires skills, knowing your players well and play like a real player. It also hugely minimize all of non sense that happens on assisted esp online.
That's my opinion. If you're not willing to learn manual then deal with the arcade fest online. I played against the best players I have ever played on manual fifa14 PS4.Against Italians and Spanish ppl, it was the most tactical games I've ever played against a real person.
The camera angle when referee is booking or sending off players is rubbish. Can't even see the card sometimes!
YouTube - Red card
YouTube - Red card
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sorry but im not loyal i enjoy the game. i enjoyed pes/iss back in the day but now i dont..i honestly cant believe people think people buy fifa or pes because they are loyal to the brand. I spend my wages wisely and i buy what i think is the best football experience and who are progressing the series not who make the game.
also if they were both crap then i wouldn't buy either
This is quite a daft post, just because you say assisted is arcade does it mean it should be fundamentally broken with the lofted-throughball exploits, why do we have passing stats and passing ability then, if it can just be bypassed.
When a 60 rated player pings a perfect lofted through-ball that will make even pirlo shy, your solution is to play manual ?? I do not like manual is it by force??.
This elitist manual thing is bullshit, play what you like and stop telling me i am having a bad time playing because i am not playing with manual. The game should be balanced that is much more important to me than EPL and stadiums.
Ipswich69
Banned
- 25 July 2011
The worst Fifa ever since 08. Online = joke. Sprint sprint and sprint .Shooting= random . Gooden goals 45'90, momentum etc Right now Fifa is typical arcade game. Fifa 09> Fifa 15
I have no idea about online, but offline it's the best FIFA yet, in my opinion. Infact, I would go as far as to say it's the best football game since PES 6. Hope player models and some of the running animations are improved in the future though.
gerd
Retired Footballer
This is the reason i never play online.
Oh and Zee, the last 5 or 6 years, PES would have benefitted enormously from sliders. Personally i'm all for sliders like they are used in NBA2K and FIFA.
IMO FIFA needs even more sliders (like NBA 2K).
With sliders, the above discussion about manual or not manual becomes more (not totally) irrelevant IMO.
10 years ago i had all the time in the world to play games and at the time i was reasonably well at it. Now i haven't got the time and i'm a very average player (which is an understatement to say i'm bad). Sliders make it more realistic and also more fun for me...usually realism is not necessarily fun.
And about online, i wouldn't know that, but isn't there a possibility to go to lobbies with like minded players ? Then you are sure to play against people who have the same philosophy as you. Could well be wrong.
Lons
AMIGA 1200 HARDCORE FAN!
- 15 December 2007
Once again. Online = joke Why?
1. Pace is arcade
2. Sprint with attackers is a joke. Messi, Ronaldo >>>>>>>>>>>>sprint, sprint and GOAL.
3. Golden minutes 45',90'
4. Momentum
5. Keepers are rubbish. Sometimes they are superhuman, sometimes make so much stupid mistakes.
6. Shooting is totally random like in Pes 2012.
7. Scripting in this game is terrible online of course
8. Totally unbalance defffend and attack
9. Hockey scoring online
10. Ping pong passing as well online
It's the worst Fifa online ever.
1. Pace is arcade
2. Sprint with attackers is a joke. Messi, Ronaldo >>>>>>>>>>>>sprint, sprint and GOAL.
3. Golden minutes 45',90'
4. Momentum
5. Keepers are rubbish. Sometimes they are superhuman, sometimes make so much stupid mistakes.
6. Shooting is totally random like in Pes 2012.
7. Scripting in this game is terrible online of course
8. Totally unbalance defffend and attack
9. Hockey scoring online
10. Ping pong passing as well online
It's the worst Fifa online ever.
Dodecahedron
Conference
- 12 February 2014
Agreed - I had an absolute cracker of a match last night on the default sliders on Legendary. It was the AIK v Malmo game in the "Highlights of the Week" menu.
Won 2-1 with a last minute winner from a hopeful ball pumped into the box which ricocheted to around the penalty spot after an aerial battle, and my striker rifled it in off the bar, looked quite realistic and was very satisfying. My other goal was a 25 yard low drive into the far corner after winning the ball in their half with a crunching slide tackle.
I found it quite a tough challenge and the amount of chances for each side seemed about right to me... I'm not really seeing these goal fests that people seem to be reporting as the norm in this game. Most of my games vs the CPU on World Class/Legendary seem to have 2-3 goals with the occasional goalless or high scoring contest. None of my five online games so far have produced more than three goals either. Even the clubs games I've played haven't had excessive scorelines...
I actually agree with some of the stuff you say but if I think somebody opinion is rubbish, then it is. To me. If my opinion is rubbish to them then big deal. I'm a big boy. I can take it if they say it's rubbish because their opinion is irrelevant to me just as mine is to then. Don't take things so much to heart though. I don't see you defending me when others don't agree or have a go at me though so don't give me I'm being unfair rubbish please as its a bit hypocritical.
I've said how I play the game so when I said his opinion is rubbish for online it is. He's saying online is rubbish. It isn't. It is in some cases and using certain settings but to say online is rubbish, is in fact talking rubbish. I have no idea how that can be argued. In his opinion it's crap but from others point of view it isn't so he's giving out false info at that is unfair. Everyone needs to judge it for themselves. Me and the other guy have a different opinion as if somebody new came in here and just read his comments they might give the game a miss when from my point of view they could be missing out on a great game. Works both ways fella.
Point proved. Clearly playing a different way to how I play the game so quite a lot of those points are invalid.
Stop this shit, man. Are you a mod of EA forum ?
No I'm not but I won't listen to absolute bullshit from others either. Go tell them to stop it. If I choose to say something then I will. Just like everyone else. I don't hear you telling them to stop so I'll say what I want, when I want.
I've explained a few posts back what I meant and think I covered that pretty well but if you don't like or don't agree then quite frankly, tough shit. I wish others would stop saying things so whats the difference? Jump on the guy whose opinion is just as valid as everyone's else though just because he thinks the game is better played with different settings and maybe some might get a bit more enjoyment out of playing the game that way. They may not have tried it that way before so the more that open their eyes to it the better IMO.
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mfmaxpower
International
- 29 July 2010
This entire manual/sliders vs assisted/default settings discussion is rubbish.
Playing with manual settings and adjusted sliders is a fantastic option to have, but they don't "fix" the problems with the game. They paper over the cracks, and in some cases make exploits less exploitable, but they aren't the solution we should all be settling for.
And this "manual is more realistic" argument? Please. Manual is more difficult, but it's not inherently more realistic. There's nothing especially realistic about seeing Iniesta miss a simple pass or seeing Diego Costa miss a sitter because my aim is off. Sometimes manual can be just as unrealistic as assisted. Manual is a great option for those who want to up the challenge, or who want their own aim to play a larger role in the game, but it shouldn't be the answer.
Besides, I'd argue that the game at default plays a pretty fantastic game of football, but it's just marred by some big flaws/exploits, most of which have little to do with passing settings or anything that can be adjusted through sliders. In fact, if just the defensive AI was more competent, and the defensive mechanics a bit more capable of dealing with the powerful attacking options available in 15, I'd be extremely happy with 15.
Playing with manual settings and adjusted sliders is a fantastic option to have, but they don't "fix" the problems with the game. They paper over the cracks, and in some cases make exploits less exploitable, but they aren't the solution we should all be settling for.
And this "manual is more realistic" argument? Please. Manual is more difficult, but it's not inherently more realistic. There's nothing especially realistic about seeing Iniesta miss a simple pass or seeing Diego Costa miss a sitter because my aim is off. Sometimes manual can be just as unrealistic as assisted. Manual is a great option for those who want to up the challenge, or who want their own aim to play a larger role in the game, but it shouldn't be the answer.
Besides, I'd argue that the game at default plays a pretty fantastic game of football, but it's just marred by some big flaws/exploits, most of which have little to do with passing settings or anything that can be adjusted through sliders. In fact, if just the defensive AI was more competent, and the defensive mechanics a bit more capable of dealing with the powerful attacking options available in 15, I'd be extremely happy with 15.
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Nobleknight
Manual Player
Daft ,huh ?!
Oh,who am I talking to a PES hybrid ?!
Assisted is arcade because no matter who you control you will always get the ball where you want even if you're pointing in the opposite direction,is that realistic for you ?
Neither EA nor Konami will change their assisted systems.Because that's what sells their games to the masses.
It's not about being "elite" or something but It's the best option I have at this very moment.Is it perfect?Of course not.
Is it the closest thing to the real thing?Sure it is.
And if "Diego Costa" scored every single shot he took,he would have won the ballon d'or already.
If you like assisted it's fine for me but don't say that the game is rubbish if you aren't willing to try harder.
Either way I hope PES was out at the same time as fifa.So they have something to play rather than sabotaging this thread.
YES !!
mfmaxpower
International
- 29 July 2010
When you say things like that in bold, you do come off a bit daft.
Milanista90!
Option File Creator
- 12 October 2006
zeemeister
foxy engine
post of the year And my sentiments precisely
At gerd I don't want konami to introduce sliders. Keep it stat based please please please please.