FIFA 12 Discussion Thread

where is all the data they have been collecting from the EPL this season and more importantly what are they doing with it?
 
Essential changes for penalties:

I like the penalty concepts in PES and FIFA currently. FIFA's Animations for penalties look great on fifa, really nice! But typically the function is broken.

It's ridiculous that you automatically miss if you stop the needle in the composure bar anywhere near the red! Even if you put no power in the shot. The Composure bar seems to represent weather or not the shot will go off target or not. In a scripted manner it seems.

At the moment penalties are organized like this with the compose bar:

Green = on target and the ball will go precisely where you aim
Orange = 50/50
Red = 0% chance of scoring

What should be the function for the composure bar is that it ONLY represents the accuracy and purchase the penalty taker has when he connects the ball with. So for Example:

Green = Makes perfect contact with the ball. Same as is now

Orange = makes decent contact with the ball. Slightly erratic pruchase with contact with the actual ball. The ball will still go i direction which aimed generally but due to stats and amount of power could skew wide. The power of the shot and again stats also determines how erratic it will be. If you try a powerful shot but you stop it in the orange bar, there's a say 40% likelihood you could miss, less or more than that percentage depending again on stats.

Red = Miss-shit/scuff shot. You do not hit the ball cleanly and NO EA I DON MEAN IT GOES AUTOMATICALLY INTO ROW Z, EVEN WHEN YOU PUT NO POWER IN THE SHOT! I MEAN LITERALLY SCUFF THE SHOT! If you put little power into the shot, you could be lucky and the ball could roll in if the keeper dives the other way. If you put substantial power in it, unless your very, VERY lucky, the ball will go flying over the bar!

So, to make penalties almost faultless, some changes need to be made. It should be harder to hit the green zone BUT in that if you hit the orange or red zone, as long as you don't go crazy with power you could still score with a bit of luck.
 
That guy doing the presentation is the fucking generic face, have a look at the ugly twat. And as fars as lil wayne and Drake playing "soccer" fuck you gangsta bitches! Take lil twat to millwall on any given saturday and he'll have some real tears to go with those tatt ones. Rutter you are a c**t...
 
Basically, play PES and you'll havings the sex with fun girls. Play FIFA and you'll be really angry and frustrated.

Did I get the message right?
 
Nick Cave said:
I'm finishing off my CM review for EA but I was just going to add some detail on my gameplay impressions in the footnotes.
From FIFA 11, and given shooting has been tweaked in 12 (how good that will be we will have to wait and see) I'd like to get a feel for what peoples top three issues with the gameplay mechanics are or what they feel needs priority..

Please keep it to three only and try to be succinct and I'll pass them on with my report..
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1. Getting the fundamentals of futbol correct. The AI does not play futbol, it is programmed to get the ball forward as quickly as possible, negating any type of build up play. If this is how "real" futbol was played, it would be described as the Hideous Game not the Beautiful Game. Also non attacking players can score goals at times. Not in this game. More dynamic goal scoring is needed by midfielders and defenders. Currently it is the majority attacking players. This is correct in nature, but the percentages need to vary more!

2. All teams play the same. There is no variety at all when playing the AI. A minnow will play the same way as Barca will. Getting forward as quickly as possible, and putting ridiculous pressure on you no matter the situation. Again, not how futbol is played, make the tactics mean something. Also giving us players control to set the cpu tactics in career mode before a match so that they play how they should.

3. Fouls. Is their a foul slider yet? Futbol is a physical game, where fouls are a plenty, and each league has referee's that call the game differently. When it is warranted, a foul need to be called. What is the point of set pieces and being able to make your own set pieces if obvious fouls are not called? This is why a slider is needed, to please all different types of games. This games needs sliders in generals. Also look at game speed. There is barely a difference between Normal and Slow. Sigh.
 
Placebo said:
Let's all play the David Rutter "So..." drinking game ;)
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:D

I'm so over listening to him, once you hear the first "so..." I feel like turning it off. We all know it's the usual pr-spiel anyway. What's this football business talk?

Nevermind, reading it on FSB
 
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azur said:
Actually, i prefer "girls just want to have fun " :BLUSH:
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So do i.

romagnoli said:
Basically, play PES and you'll havings the sex with fun girls. Play FIFA and you'll be really angry and frustrated.

Did I get the message right?
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Yes, girls like to have fun with me when i play PES. The FIFA music is perfect for when you smash you controller against the wall from all the frustration.

Then again, it would've worked a lot better if there was resident evil Music on the PES clips and Ice Hockey/skating music on the FIFA clips
 
Scorpio said:
FIFA Soccer 12 Video Game, E3 2011: Gameplay Innovations Interview HD | Video Clip | Game Trailers & Videos | GameTrailers.com
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4:54

David Rutter
"If your running in a straight line it's great, but if you want to change direction, it feels a bit sluggish, that's gone!"
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Anybody else, who plays a lot of online, think that they should maybe fix the filters and matchmaking (yes, I'm complaining about that again), maybe allow you to vote to kick (or just kick) troublemakers, and MAYBE bring back ET and PKs for Online Team Play matches (seems like they accidentally got rid of that when they introduced Clubs).

It feels like they've done everything possible (since FIFA 09) to make one of the most enjoyable modes in FIFA, one of the least.

And Xaor's post on the official forums gave me little to no hope. I didn't have much hope for the game anyway after watching that contain animation in that leaked video, but he just about confirmed my suspicions. The defending mechanics between PES and FIFA are nearly night and day. It'll be more of the same, and once again, if they don't fix Online Team Play, I won't be buying and keeping FIFA for the third straight year (didn't buy 10, sold 11 after a couple months).

I really don't care to fool myself into thinking that there's any depth to the single player offerings and we all know about the gameplay shortcomings.

One good thing about all of this...I don't think I'm going to get angry anymore when I see knobheads praising the game in the comments section of every YouTube video and online article. Maybe that's a bit sad but I think it's pretty obvious that as long as these dudes are in charge, nothing's gonna get done.
 
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If they stop going on about that is the "Most realistic football game" and the "Most authentic" and plain and simply say "its built around having fun online and with your friends". I wouldnt mind FIFA.
 
uksix said:
If they stop going on about that is the "Most realistic football game" and the "Most authentic" and plain and simply say "its built around having fun online and with your friends". I wouldnt mind FIFA.
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That's what really grates for me. It's not that they aren't producing the game I want, it's that they, and the mainstream media state over and over again that it is the game I want.
 
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