Fifa 11 Xbox 360/PS3

[mfmaxpower]

Anyone else finding it extremely difficult to score when playing in the lower leagues? In my CM with 1 star Lincoln City I can't find the back of the net to save my life. Right now my goal differential is only -2 (my defense is the stingiest in the league) but I'm near last in the bottom division of English football because I can't score.

Just to make sure I'm not totally inept I played a match with Panathinaikos against Athens I won 4-1 (playing on WC). Going back to my CM it was like playing a different game, which it should be but not in the way I mean - it was like the CPU defenders did not see an equal drop in skill as my offensive players did from playing with Panathinaikos to Lincoln City.

It would be such a simple issue if I was losing by 3-0 every match because I'd just drop the difficulty down, but it's not like that - if I lose it's rarely by more than 1-0. My defense is already the best in the entire league, meanwhile I totally dominate the run of play, possession, passing, etc. It's just when my guys get the ball in the final third, especially within the penalty box, they either don't have the time to do anything with the ball, get dispossessed almost instantly, or forget how to dribble.

I've just changed my VP to play a bigger, more target-man like ST role, so maybe that'll help, but anyone else having similar struggles? Tips/advice?

 

[airjoca]

Couple of custom covers I made:

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[TikTikTikTikTik]

So who's Nani giving a BJ to?

 

[Bingham67]

I have not been subbed yet in my player career even when i played utter crap and i have had a load of games ?

Also same old crap with AI exploiting wings cross ball same old goals always around same time in games its just terrible to watch.

 

[mfmaxpower]

Hey guys is there an easy way to have different CMs going using different VPs? Do I need to create different profiles within FIFA to do this?

 

[daikirai]

Have a chant question to ask. If I make a playlist to use for say, Liverpool chants (during a game) and that playlist has three songs on it, will it randomly go through them or will it always play the first.

I added a bunch for the Eredivisie and a lot of the teams I had more than onr so I lumped them in playlists for that team. Don't want to have all that hard work be for nothing!

 

[BobbyBox]

Have a chant question to ask. If I make a playlist to use for say, Liverpool chants (during a game) and that playlist has three songs on it, will it randomly go through them or will it always play the first.

I added a bunch for the Eredivisie and a lot of the teams I had more than onr so I lumped them in playlists for that team. Don't want to have all that hard work be for nothing!

I've only put Arsenal ones on it, I think I have about 8 chants and it goes through them all randomly.

 

[ant0n]

There's a new patch available, now?

1.02?...

Well I was playing CM during the server update yesterday and I quickly noticed the speed of the game was quicker. Also found Pro Passing to have even less of an impact.

 

[gameklip]

I dunno if i'm playing the same game as everyone here but i'm enjoying manager mode. It's not flawless but it's really challenging for a change. Wins aren't garunteed anymore.

Online and vs a human this game is truly an achievement. Seriously. Personality+ is in evidence even more when you come up against a decent defence with a stand-out tackler you will know about it. You end up playing around him lol. I've had disconnect issues with EA's server so only got to complete 1 out of two online head to head games (and won it). EA need to sort out their server. Jesus.

Anyways, having fun and discovering new things all the time. Pato is amazing by the way. I have hm at barca and you can control his shots so well. I scored an absolute scorcher with Ramsey last night too. Fantastic. (signed him for barca cause arsenal asked for 60million euros for fabregas. a nice replacement)

btw. Something not many have mentioned but EA nailed the shooting. You can dip shots by holding forward while charging and you can even add drift with backspin by holding a bit back. Hard to do in the heat of the moment but looks great when you pull it off. I'll post a vid.

Also the nets are fantastic. In manager mode each stadium has it's own combinations of loose/tight/regular or triangle/regular/recatangle nets. The movement is great when you score (on the nets). The best I've seen for a footy game. So realistic.

A problem I found with custom celebrations though is that sometimes players run up to you and don't know what to do for a split second and then just stand there next to you pumping their arms lol.

Oh and speaking of arms and torso's. EA need to go back to art school and restudy the human form. Seriously, some of the intros are ruined by the weird justing out ape-like arms. Elbows sticking out like a tea-pot convention. lol

 

[mfmaxpower]

I dunno if i'm playing the same game as everyone here but i'm enjoying manager mode. It's not flawless but it's really challenging for a change. Wins aren't garunteed anymore.

The game definitely has its moments. Sadly, as a primarily offline FIFA gamer, I miss a lot of those moments.

CM has some positive improvements but it's still pretty bare bones, with possibly more major bugs than major features. Player growth is probably the worst right now.

Honestly, either they B.S.'ed us about starting over from scratch (since we're seeing some of the same bugs) or they're just incompetent. FIFA 08's MM worked just fine but it's been downhill since. In any case, this is two years in a row that CM/MM was released in a bug-ridden state.

I am now on my third CM career, and not by choice. Right now I'm getting more frustration than joy out of FIFA. Looking forward to some updates/patches, but att this point looking forward even more to PES and ML though.

Sucks being an offline gamer these days I guess.

 

[Murkurial]

Sucks being an offline gamer these days I guess.

Online is the epitome of a pressure fest. Not as amazing as people would have you believe. If you enjoy the "challenge" of trying to play around the bullrushing and pinpoint tackling of a pressure whore (just try and shield the ball, I dare you), you might call it a challenge.

The fact that every defender can catch every attacker (unless you've got your custom tactics on) makes for close, but incredibly frustrating games.

 

[mfmaxpower]

Online is the epitome of a pressure fest. Not as amazing as people would have you believe. If you enjoy the "challenge" of trying to play around the bullrushing and pinpoint tackling of a pressure whore (just try and shield the ball, I dare you), you might call it a challenge.

The fact that every defender can catch every attacker (unless you've got your custom tactics on) makes for close, but incredibly frustrating games.

I've had some great matches against friends but playing against randoms can be pretty bad. Playing against the CPU isn't much better/worse.

I think EA forgot video games are suppose to be fun.

 

[klashman69]

Here's my response to Robo, which can be read under the spoiler, dosen't matter too much, wouldn't bother reading it unless your robo,! It's the point not in the spoiler which is worth reading for all!

Spoiler

Sure you didn't want to get into an argument Klash, that's why you stated PES was a simulation of football (compared to FIFA) in a FIFA thread!!!

No, you just fished out that part and played on it because you seemingly very insecure about anyone mentioning PES in their opinion being better than fifa in terms of being a sim. It was a post based on FIFA, and i have to mention PES because it's quite a sizable reason why i'm not feeling FIFA!

The post was about EA politics, i like discussing political issues like that, what, too advanced for you? I also asked if there were any manual clubs out there? What so I'm the devil because i prefer PES over FIFA. A few of my good mates from uni prefer FIFA over PES, some mates back at home do aswell. Do i become childish and throw personal insults rather than observing his views and giving you feedback and honest opinion in reply to that.

This whole "YOU ARE NOOB, FIFA/PES IS BETTER YOUR MUM etc.. is just pathetic, seriously! If someone insults me, i insult them back but to categorize peoples personality over their game preference is well, stupid

Utter toss! Some of the animations in FIFA look ridiculously realistic. It appears to me that you see what you want to see. Someone made a comment about how bad a PES animation was, rather than saying yeah that one looked unrealistic you come back with Martin Keown used to do that all the time! LOL!!!!

HELLO! I'm a GOONER, I GREW UP WATCHING HIM PLAY? I think I SHOULD know! Where did i say he did that every game, he did it a few times and imo that's who i associate with that action!

That's the thing, some animations in FIFA look very realistic, hence why i said before it LOOKS, 'i repeat' LOOKS very nice! But what do these animations mean when the mechanics behind it are highly basic, too easy, over responsive in reaction times and stuck on rails?

Rabona's look great, of course, so do the trick stick skills aswell. There were a few tackling animations which also look amazingly good but again, who cares if the mechanics are too basic?

Klash you know absolutely fuck all about me or what standard of football I've played so please don't pretend that you do. Just because you're existence revolves around gambling and sitting in front of a tv/computer doesn't mean you know more than anyone else.
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Never has there been a finer example of hypocrisy! " I know nothing about the standard of football robo has played" Yet he knows everything about my life. You use a computer/laptop? You bet? So i assume you life revolvers around that, yes? Really?

In regards to your comment about the camera I use, if you look at the bottom of the screen you can see something called a radar, (ever wondered why they included it?) you require occasionally. The camera is only marginally zoomed in and the adjustment to the height means you can see more of the pitch. I use a 40" TV too so that may help? Have you even tried it?

And how exactly are those dot's offscreen going to help you see if your teammates is balanced and making a good run into space, or he's flat footed and ready to be dispossessed if you attempt the pass?

I love the radar but it's imperative to see what your teammates are doing to play proper passing moves, or even stuff like long balls etc.. Very close cameras are usual there for fun/speed purposes!

Losing credibility because I don't share the same opinion as you.

Losing credibility because your talking about things you don't know much about (PES 2011). If you mastered the game to a good standard and criticism, fine, but to play a few games then discard it, well it shows you don't know much about it! I played loads of the FIFA demo to make sure i looked under every stone to backup my views, so i could get a full picture of what the games about!

I' basically trying to demonstrate how flawed your argument is, that's why I'm bothering to argue. So maybe you can question your own views rather than assuming your always right!

Why do you have to keep referring to other people? It's weird. Anyway I can play ground passes in FIFA 11 with 'zip' on them and I can also play delicate passes too so I don't get your point.

Ground passes with zip strong enough to get from one side of the field to the other at a good pace? Video evidence please?

Hang on I thought you were just trying to convince me that the animations are realistic? Now you're agreeing they are shit!???

No you confused yourself, i said The goalkeeping animations are crap! While FIFA's are great!

All I said is that PES has too many issues that I just can't live with. They are gamebreaking! On the flipside most of the issues FIFA has I can live with. If you think that makes me a fanboy then fine, whatever makes you feel better. Again my views are terrible because there not the same as yours.

Just reiterating again, PES is flawed in your eyes because it's hard to play, control, you struggle to control the players and the animation aren't as smooth as you want them to be, but no talk on the game balance and things, being overpowered etc.. just mainly unhappy with animations!

But FIFA issues which involve heavy game in balancing and dubbed down fundamentals are OK to live with. Just wanted to really put in writing everything i've collected from reading your posts

Pressuring is too unrealistic in FIFA (still) but it's not a game breaker and it's something I've learned to live with. I'll probably only play a couple of seasons of CM offline anyway as I mainly play online vs fellow manual players. Pressuring is not something that manual players really use so again the issue you mentioned really isn't an issue (for me). I never tweak custom tactics so not sure who that is aimed at.

AHHHH, Now it makes sense! I don't think you really get what i mean about the game being unbalanced and basic!

It's unbalanced since if you put 100% pressure and aggression vs the CPU on many level, with any controls (even manual) It's super easy!

Not sim like because tackling is too inch prefect, dosen't take foot placement, momentum etc.. and easy, even when the CPU constantly fouls you, gets away with it with you making almost harmless tackles being penalized. The on rails effect dosen't help either! This stuff applies thought the gameplay!

and like i did with the manual community when i played FIFA 09 and 10 for a bit, limiting the tactical options you can use in the game to try and find a rather predictable but good feeling balance to play! Again, always question your own views! if this game is a true simulation in you eyes, where the tactics? Where the changing your teams shape to exploit you opponents weakness (fairly) Wheres the adding a extra DM to pack the midfield making your team harder to break down?

Is it possible like many people your putting too much importance on animations?

 

[mfmaxpower]

Starting a new CM with Charlton Athletic because of issues with the last one. I'm editing some players before I start though - not attributes, only boots and appearance stuff - and I've had some weird shit go down. First of all, my wingers turn into forwards. Second, I've seen some major stat adjustments.

Best example: just had L. Martin go from being an LW with 69 OVR turn into a LF rated 59! And all I did was change his boots!!

WTF is going on man, bugs galore. What a joke.

*Edit: my bad, not as bad as it sounds - stats don't get changed, OVR only readjusted for new position. Strange this guy dropped a whole ten points. Just be careful because thus could seriously impact their sale value, I guess.

 

[djika]

Here's my response to Robo, which can be read under the spoiler, dosen't matter too much, wouldn't bother reading it unless your robo,! It's the point not in the spoiler which is worth reading for all!

Spoiler

No, you just fished out that part and played on it because you seemingly very insecure about anyone mentioning PES in their opinion being better than fifa in terms of being a sim. It was a post based on FIFA, and i have to mention PES because it's quite a sizable reason why i'm not feeling FIFA!

The post was about EA politics, i like discussing political issues like that, what, too advanced for you? I also asked if there were any manual clubs out there? What so I'm the devil because i prefer PES over FIFA. A few of my good mates from uni prefer FIFA over PES, some mates back at home do aswell. Do i become childish and throw personal insults rather than observing his views and giving you feedback and honest opinion in reply to that.

This whole "YOU ARE NOOB, FIFA/PES IS BETTER YOUR MUM etc.. is just pathetic, seriously! If someone insults me, i insult them back but to categorize peoples personality over their game preference is well, stupid



HELLO! I'm a GOONER, I GREW UP WATCHING HIM PLAY? I think I SHOULD know! Where did i say he did that every game, he did it a few times and imo that's who i associate with that action!

That's the thing, some animations in FIFA look very realistic, hence why i said before it LOOKS, 'i repeat' LOOKS very nice! But what do these animations mean when the mechanics behind it are highly basic, too easy, over responsive in reaction times and stuck on rails?

Rabona's look great, of course, so do the trick stick skills aswell. There were a few tackling animations which also look amazingly good but again, who cares if the mechanics are too basic?



Never has there been a finer example of hypocrisy! " I know nothing about the standard of football robo has played" Yet he knows everything about my life. You use a computer/laptop? You bet? So i assume you life revolvers around that, yes? Really?



And how exactly are those dot's offscreen going to help you see if your teammates is balanced and making a good run into space, or he's flat footed and ready to be dispossessed if you attempt the pass?

I love the radar but it's imperative to see what your teammates are doing to play proper passing moves, or even stuff like long balls etc.. Very close cameras are usual there for fun/speed purposes!



Losing credibility because your talking about things you don't know much about (PES 2011). If you mastered the game to a good standard and criticism, fine, but to play a few games then discard it, well it shows you don't know much about it! I played loads of the FIFA demo to make sure i looked under every stone to backup my views, so i could get a full picture of what the games about!

I' basically trying to demonstrate how flawed your argument is, that's why I'm bothering to argue. So maybe you can question your own views rather than assuming your always right!



Ground passes with zip strong enough to get from one side of the field to the other at a good pace? Video evidence please?




No you confused yourself, i said The goalkeeping animations are crap! While FIFA's are great!



Just reiterating again, PES is flawed in your eyes because it's hard to play, control, you struggle to control the players and the animation aren't as smooth as you want them to be, but no talk on the game balance and things, being overpowered etc.. just mainly unhappy with animations!

But FIFA issues which involve heavy game in balancing and dubbed down fundamentals are OK to live with. Just wanted to really put in writing everything i've collected from reading your posts

AHHHH, Now it makes sense! I don't think you really get what i mean about the game being unbalanced and basic!

It's unbalanced since if you put 100% pressure and aggression vs the CPU on many level, with any controls (even manual) It's super easy!

Not sim like because tackling is too inch prefect, dosen't take foot placement, momentum etc.. and easy, even when the CPU constantly fouls you, gets away with it with you making almost harmless tackles being penalized. The on rails effect dosen't help either! This stuff applies thought the gameplay!

and like i did with the manual community when i played FIFA 09 and 10 for a bit, limiting the tactical options you can use in the game to try and find a rather predictable but good feeling balance to play! Again, always question your own views! if this game is a true simulation in you eyes, where the tactics? Where the changing your teams shape to exploit you opponents weakness (fairly) Wheres the adding a extra DM to pack the midfield making your team harder to break down?

Is it possible like many people your putting too much importance on animations?

As one guy said long time ago, " You play FIFA with controller but PES, you play with hart" or something like that.

 

[embraceuk1]

Just Ignore Klashman hes an obvious Troll he decided weeks ago he didnt like Fifa and i bet he played 1 or 2 games if any.
Just look at his comments on the F1 2010 thread a game he hasnt even played.

Like i said on on that thread i would love to see the responces if i went on the PES forum and said how crap the game was and in the same sentence said i hadnt played it.

And before he responds about videos etc the same ppl on there say you cant judge PES from a video lol sorry i stole your thunder.

 

[Scutch]

EA update :

Hi all!

Firstly, thank you for your patience and feedback while we have been investigating the issues you’ve raised since the launch of the game. Your feedback has, as always, been invaluable.

As an update for you, we wanted to let you know that we are actively working on fixes for the following:
- Various crashes reported through our automated systems;
- Micro-pausing in offline and online matches;
- OTP Club issues related to searching, lag during peak and stat reporting;
- Gameplay fixes around positioning and advantage rule;
- Career Mode fixes around stat display and growth;
- Online exploits, Pro Passing in ranked matches, and cheaters punishment;
- Custom Chants issues.

We will update you as soon as we can on progress there. We’re working around the clock to make sure we can address them all, either directly on our game servers or via a game patch – and that’s something we’re aiming to deliver as soon as we possibly can.

Your Live Team.

 

[Trance_Allstar]

"- Gameplay fixes around positioning and advantage rule"


So I guess they are happy with everything else... sucks to be me.

 

[PU6HY]

Definitely need to fix the manual search filter where they can still change their fucking settings afterwards!!!

 

[klashman69]

Just Ignore Klashman hes an obvious Troll he decided weeks ago he didnt like Fifa and i bet he played 1 or 2 games if any.

If i played 1-2 games why would i have even bothered to post in this thread? I wouldn't even visit any forum regarding FIFA is i just played 1-2 games on the demo.

I mean for god's skate i've uploaded videos for 3 different matches here:
FIFA 11 DEMO: Real Madrid 1 – 0 Arsenal | EA SPORTS
FIFA 11 DEMO: Arsenal 0 – 0 F.C. Barcelona | EA SPORTS
YouTube - FIFA 11 demo NEW FEATURE!

I have more clips if you want to see? Maybe now, why do i anger you so much?

Just look at his comments on the F1 2010 thread a game he hasnt even played.

BTW can i just stress that i am a huge formula one fan and watch every race religiously. I played pretty much every formula 1 goal. I love the sport, I'd been looking forward to this game for, well years! Since i couldn't play F1CE on the xbox! I had to keep playing modded F1CC and GP4, which crashed too much for me, even though they were very good games!

Also did i say the game is a worthless pile of shit? No i just observed from the negativity and the bugs that's it's best i wait until a patch arrives. Yes i stand by my comments that the bugs are totally unacceptable, especially froma company as big as CM! If your paying money for their product you should expect substantial quality, not a game which has a multitude of gamebreaking bugs

All the positivity is coming from players who apparently don't play much racing or F1 games and are new fans to the sport (Hamiltion). I don't have the money ATM to pay 40 pound for another game! (student) So why am i going out to buy a game which isn't recommended by, remember (unbiased) posters here who like me were looking forward to the game immensely? How is that trolling?

It annoys me you attacking my views because you think I'm unnecessarily negative! No, If codemaasters sort that game out, then PES 2011 is in quite serious trouble in terms of playing time!

Like i said on on that thread i would love to see the responces if i went on the PES forum and said how crap the game was and in the same sentence said i hadnt played it.

And before he responds about videos etc the same ppl on there say you cant judge PES from a video lol sorry i stole your thunder.

Where did i say that, if you see a idiot scoring own goals and playing cheaply on FIFA does it mean you can write the whole game off? It annoys me people don't even read my posts and try to understand where I'm coming. Simply because i don't like the game they jump to conclusions and write what i say off!

FINALLY moving on, neuf scored a nice goals from hold up play with Carew. Reminds me of this goal i scored in fifa 10, anyone like?
FIFA 10 DEMO: Barcelona 1 - 0 Juventus | EA SPORTS

 

[Coopz]

I had a few games on Clubs earlier and at least twice in every game for a couple of minutes i couldn't switch and my players turned/passed ect a second after i pressed it which was very very annoying

I hope that's being fixed or it was just a one off

 

[BobbyBox]

Playing switching in general is a bit annoying.

I play on manual switching and it should change straight away, but many times it locks onto one player, no matter how many times I press the button. It only happens every now and again, but it always seems to happen at the most important times.

Also when wanting the keeper to come out there is a bit of a delay, this can be the difference between them scoring or not and is very annoying.

But I am still enjoying playing online full manual. I haven't had any problems with teh servers and have been able to find soemone everytime I look.

Usually manual players don't press as much and play the game a bit better, so I would say 90% of games are good fun. I lose most of them, but I still find them fun

 

[mfmaxpower]

Strange: I'm enjoying this game much more on the PS3 than 360. I don't think there's any gameplay differences, instead I think what's going on is that because I'm less accustomed to the PS3 sticks, and thus less accurate when passing on manual, I need to drop the difficulty level down a notch so I can score. And that means less pressure, less awesome CPU defending. Don't know if it'll last but right now enjoying the gameplay more with the PS3.

(Also strange is that the 360 has quicker load times than the PS3 this year, when it has been the total opposite previously. Sometimes I worry the game has froze on me, it can be that much slower.)

Playing switching in general is a bit annoying.

I notice issues with player switching too. It's only a minor issue, more an inconvenience than anything, but it can make a huge difference at critical moments. Disappointing since player switching was suppose to be "fixed" this year. Also, has anyone else noticed that "Air balls" only switching is really not just for air balls but player switches occur at other, sometimes apparently random, times?

"- Gameplay fixes around positioning and advantage rule"


So I guess they are happy with everything else... sucks to be me.

Sucks to be me too. So disappointed when I read this - I can't believe EA think other things are fine, like CPU defending/pressure. And I still think pass speed is a little sluggish on manual.

I imagine they've got all they can handle at the moment with just getting rid of bugs and major issues though, and while I was excited with the possibility that this year EA could/would be able to make gameplay tweaks server side, I think the reality is once again that I'll be disappointed with EA's assessment of their own game, their interest in listening to the community, and their desire to modify gameplay.

The best we can hope for might be that they can fix the gamebreaking bugs for online and in CM. Anyone know what the gameplay fixes around "positioning" is meant to be?

 

[gomito#10]

got the game will be looking to play games late night tonight if anyone is on, US eastern time zone, look for me boys, ove8... coopz? placebo you want to give me a go?

 

[aitken]

been playing clubs and noticed crosses are way more effective than they should be. quite frustrating if they don't tone it down a bit, i think i've seen almost as many headers scored this fifa than i did in the whole of last

 

[romagnoli]

Isn't that news update from EA covering bugs/glitches, NOT gameplay tweaking? Didn't they say they weren't going to make pure gameplay changes for a few weeks?

 

[Disqo]

Just Ignore Klashman hes an obvious Troll he decided weeks ago he didnt like Fifa and i bet he played 1 or 2 games if any.
Just look at his comments on the F1 2010 thread a game he hasnt even played.

Like i said on on that thread i would love to see the responces if i went on the PES forum and said how crap the game was and in the same sentence said i hadnt played it.

And before he responds about videos etc the same ppl on there say you cant judge PES from a video lol sorry i stole your thunder.

To be fair he actually explains his gripes with each game, its not your usual Fifa/PES sux comments

 

[mfmaxpower]

Isn't that news update from EA covering bugs/glitches, NOT gameplay tweaking? Didn't they say they weren't going to make pure gameplay changes for a few weeks?

Only mentions position/offsides issues, so I guess no gameplay adjustments like we'd like to see. So many issues I wonder whether they'll have time to ever really tweak the gameplay.

 

[romagnoli]

According to a couple of people who have messaged me and Fodder via PSN they have already been tinkering with the game compared to what it was a week ago.

 

[SilverSpider]

Sucks being an offline gamer these days I guess.

Online is the epitome of a pressure fest. Not as amazing as people would have you believe. If you enjoy the "challenge" of trying to play around the bullrushing and pinpoint tackling of a pressure whore (just try and shield the ball, I dare you), you might call it a challenge.

The fact that every defender can catch every attacker (unless you've got your custom tactics on) makes for close, but incredibly frustrating games.

I've had some great matches against friends but playing against randoms can be pretty bad. Playing against the CPU isn't much better/worse.

I think EA forgot video games are suppose to be fun.

I concur with all of the above guys, I don't really play online apart from giving it a few games in FIFA '09 & '10 before I thought "Nah not for me"

Online in FIFA games is like 200mph Rugby, in fact no it's like Speedball (the old Amiga game)

Gave FIFA 11 online my first spin last night thinking this year might be different and I might be able to get on with online this year and invest some time in it whilst waiting for a CM patch ...

How wrong could I have been, it was horrendous, here's why ...

- Controls are lag ridden and sluggish compared to offline, don't know how people can put up with that to begin with.

- Pressure whores or whatever you fellas call them are rife.

- Everyone goes Real Madrid, Spain or Chelsea ... Yawnsville, Yawnachussets.

- No one plays anything approaching Football, last night literally NOT ONE person played a pass that went sideways or back EVERY single pass was forwards straight or forwards diagonal.

- When I played a guy using Chelsea with Porto, he was just smashing me off the ball constantly with pressuring with the usual supsects Essien, Drogba and Co.

He was obviously pretty experienced online and knew how to work the system or use it to his advantage, playing Football against him was pointless and got me nowhere but a 3-0 hiding ... Some ridiculous things were happening though, like Essien outleaping my players like a salmon to head balls that were coming from BEHIND him, he wouldn't have even seen it coming unless he had eyes in the back of his head.

So all in all I think I'm done with online again after only a few hours play, certainly against randoms on quick ranked match anyway ...

I honestly cannot see how anyone gets any fun from this mode of hyper speed bashing faux Football, and to think I have read some people on other forums say they hate single player and buy this JUST for online play, single player is like GOTY compared to what I experienced yesterday evening.