FC Barcelona Thread

[jonneymendoza]

Forget about them, miki. There's some people that always come here with the same song and the same single-minded views to puke its hate towards anything Barcelona.

They will absolutely ignore that Madrid should have ended with 8 or 9 players in the 1st leg, they will ignore that Pepe deserved to be sent off at least twice in the match tonight, they will ingore even that Pepe shouldn't be in a pitch for months. They will ignore the 2 penalties to Alexis, the clamorous red card to Lass that the ref ignored again... They will only see the errors against Madrid (and there were lots tonight, too).

On the overall, I think Barcelona was a bit better and Madrid has a lot to think about. If they had played like that in the first match, probably they would have gone through. It's mainly their fault, and specifically Mourinho's fault as I see it. And if they insist on the referees and all this garbage, let them go that way. They will be again in the wrong direction.

By the way, even though I dislike Busquets, I can't see how the Ramos incident can't be a yellow. In La Liga there are tons of yellow cards shown every weekend for this. And I watch a lot of Premiere matches too and see lots of yellows for that. You just can't put your arms wide open in aerial fights.

All in all, a fantastic match for spectators, an intense battle and a good result for us, though it was too evident that we're still far from fit and we still need 1-2 weeks to get in shape. Congrats to the Madrid fans that see things with fairness, because that's the best Madrid I've seen in years.

two wrongs dont make a right. Yes RM deserved some reds in 1st leg. does that give the god given right for your team to act like drama queens in the 2nd leg and for you to buy the referee so he can be on your side last night?

 

[PLF]

lol wtf?! ref wasn't one sided at all. The protests by Real Madrid players at the end is typical Mourinho BS. When you're beat and eliminated, who else can you blame? The REF of course! EVERY match ref is bad when Real plays. Unless they win.

Lassanna Diarra should've been sent off for a 2nd bookable offense RIGHT before half time but Casillas knowing this, rushed out of his net and took one for the team by deflecting the ref's attention and got himself a yellow instead.

The amazing thing was Pepe only got a yellow card right at end of the match when he was again intentionally committing fouls and doing nasty things when ref doesn't see it (like right hand in Fabregas' face) and DIVING like a little bitch himself whenever someone got near him and then looking to see if ref gives foul (Camera even caught him sneaking up while fallen down a few times )

The Ramos 2nd yellow and red was harsh in my opinion but so what, Pepe could've been sent off but got a yellow late on and Lass Diarra should've been off at HT and that would've changed match much more than having a guy sent off with 10 mins to go and he did put his arm up and do a slight elbow after all. Of course Busquets as always made the MOST of it.

Bottom line is, ref made some mistakes, but was by no means biased and Mourinho and his men just need someone to blame.

Having said that, great come back from them! Great fighting spirit and they really had Barca scared and shaking in their boots for much of the 2nd half! You could suddenly see stupid passes were being made by Barca players, pressure was on them and in the back of their mind was the thoughts of the unthinkable! A 3-2 comeback for Real and some players were playing scared.

Alves had a CRAZY match! MONSTER! As did Ozil. Best players of their team. Puyol solid as usual as well.

Messi was selfish on a couple occassions and had better options to pass instead of shoot or try to dribble especially with Pedro available and in space and fresh off the bench.

 

[Enzo]

Why 2-2?

1. Barcelona won the first game, after 2-2 then didnt have that much going on, actually the whole game wasent that great from Barcelona
2. Pinto is not Valdes, this two games show it, even if we take into account terrible Valdes mistake in La Liga game its still obvious Pinto blew it in first game against Cristiano and blew it again yesterday.. Remember how Valdes played with his legs on last La Liga game against Betis? Well thats something Pinto can't..
3. One penalty to Real, one penalty to Barcelona
4. Lass red, Pepe red
5. Good game from Real despite all I wrote above

 

[drekkard]

two wrongs dont make a right. Yes RM deserved some reds in 1st leg. does that give the god given right for your team to act like drama queens in the 2nd leg and for you to buy the referee so he can be on your side last night?

You live in your own dimension, dude. Both teams have drama queens, both teams suffered wrong decisions by the referee. Only one of them does criminal tackles and aggressions. Overall in the round, the ref helped Real Madrid no doubt, so why moan? Get over it and forget your hatred towards anything "Barcelona". I had to quit even the Arsenal thread several times because of this.

 

[jonneymendoza]

You live in your own dimension, dude. Both teams have drama queens, both teams suffered wrong decisions by the referee. Only one of them does criminal tackles and aggressions. Overall in the round, the ref helped Real Madrid no doubt, so why moan? Get over it and forget your hatred towards anything "Barcelona". I had to quit even the Arsenal thread several times because of this.

Like i said, two wrongs dont make a right. just because RM were play acting doesnt mean barca are right to do so as well. Sounds like you have a hatred towards arsenal as you have quit the thread.

least you admitted barca were also drama queens

 

[Kanouté]

lol wtf?! ref wasn't one sided at all. The protests by Real Madrid players at the end is typical Mourinho BS. When you're beat and eliminated, who else can you blame? The REF of course! EVERY match ref is bad when Real plays. Unless they win.

oh plf, you too mate? what would have you done if you were one of rm players at that moment? talking about myself, I'd right punch him in the face and finish it with a spit on it for what he had done in the end. and I would never care about what the coach would think. he gave more minutes than injury time in the first half (which is actually legal) but he ended the match with almost only one and a half minute the ball was in action in a 3 mins additional time and he ended it around 2:45. not saying that madrid could have found a goal there, but by the logic of the ref, there would have been no alves goal. additional time of the first half was +1 min but he scored around 2:25.

still, mourinho refused to talk about refs after the match (no matter how the ref favored RM or Barça time to time) as one wouldn't expect that from him but noone did even mention it here from those of who always moan about how mourinho 'moans' about refs after every match.

finally, that is "EVERY match ref is bad when Barcelona plays. Unless they win easily." to me.

Lassanna Diarra should've been sent off for a 2nd bookable offense RIGHT before half time but Casillas knowing this, rushed out of his net and took one for the team by deflecting the ref's attention and got himself a yellow instead.

it made me go mad when he wasn't sent off, it was ridiculous and everything went downhill for the ref since then. as for Casillas I think he was mad about how Barcelona players surrounded the ref. honestly this is some classless action from Barcelona players regardless that they were completely right to object. as a neutral, I think it doesn't go together with the best team of the earth at all.

apart these, I completely agree to what you wrote down.

 

[jonneymendoza]

The ref was a fucking joke last night. i disagree with Diarra's tackle. thats not a yellow. yes he commited a foul but since when does every single foul result to a yellow?

come on now lads.I have seen lots of fouls like that in the Premier league that goes unotice. .

What about Ramos dissalowed goal? fucking joke that was. That barca fell to the floor as if ramos punched him in the face knocking him out.

And here's me thinking football is a contact sport. It was Alves i believed. even the commentator was saying Alves overacted simply for the fact he was at the wrong side of ramos and had no chance in defending that header.

How come you never see this bullshit play acting and fouling againts city vs united, liverpool vs united, etc etc. None of that bullshit on top games in the premier league

 

[Kanouté]

The ref was a fucking joke last night. i disagree with Diarra's tackle. thats not a yellow. yes he commited a foul but since when does every single foul result to a yellow?

come on now lads.I have seen lots of fouls like that in the Premier league that goes unotice. .

as he did never mean to tackle for the ball but only intended to send Messi down, it's a very well deserved yellow card everywhere in the world. and prem refs are just as shitty as spanish ones.

What about Ramos dissalowed goal? fucking joke that was. That barca fell to the floor as if ramos punched him in the face knocking him out.

And here's me thinking football is a contact sport. It was Alves i believed. even the commentator was saying Alves overacted simply for the fact he was at the wrong side of ramos and had no chance in defending that header.

it's just awful how refs don't have a special treatment for players like him. he knew that he couldn't cope with Ramos in air and fell down like a bitch with the least of contacts as usual. but still that doesn't justify how the ref was wrong on the Lass decision (or Pepe or Ramos). two wrongs dont make a right as you said.

 

[jonneymendoza]

to me it looked like Diarra tried to win the ball but messi was too quick. Foul yes, yellow? not IMO.

end of the day both teams dive and cheat alot when playing eachother which is quite frankly pathetic. How can any neural fan rate el classicpo games ahead of various high profile games in the premiership is behond me

imo the city vs spurs match was far more entertaining then last nights as both city and spurs diddnt dive and cheat all over the place(there was some dirty incidents like ballotelli but thats just one player).

i hope next el classico we will see umm a football match. not no drama queen cheating shit.

 

[gerd]

I have seen lots of fouls like that in the Premier league that goes unotice.

That is the key, this was not an EPL match.
English football is much more physical than continental football (perhaps with the exception of German football, but IMO they also play less physical than in England). You can't judge continental games with English standards.

Lescott's elbow against Spurs would always be a red card on the continent. If you do that in England, most CB's get a red card every match...

The rest of this post is not specifically directed to jonney.
But the prejudices of some English (mostly United) fans against Barcelona amazes me (and i have to refrain myself not to speak about hatred, because i can't believe anybody can hate a football club). It seems that all sense of objectivity concerning Barcelona has disappeared by some people since they beat Man Utd twice in the CL final...

I will not comment on yesterday's match because i haven't seen it (believe it or not, i was watching KV Mechelen - Racing Genk)...but in comments about previous classico there was outrage about the "diving" of Barcelona players and much less about the diving and the very brutal play of Madrid's players. What i've seen from Pepe in the classico's is enough to give him a very long ban. And Lass Diarra could have had several red cards too...

It seems Real Madrid was good yesterday and the they actually tried to play football...that must be one of the first times in recent classico's...

 

[Cuky]

Why 2-2?

1. Barcelona won the first game, after 2-2 then didnt have that much going on, actually the whole game wasent that great from Barcelona
2. Pinto is not Valdes, this two games show it, even if we take into account terrible Valdes mistake in La Liga game its still obvious Pinto blew it in first game against Cristiano and blew it again yesterday.. Remember how Valdes played with his legs on last La Liga game against Betis? Well thats something Pinto can't..
3. One penalty to Real, one penalty to Barcelona
4. Lass red, Pepe red
5. Good game from Real despite all I wrote above

I have to correct you:
1. Yes it wasn't good, but not because they didn't have antything to play for. RM just was better.
2. No comment on this. In my view, Pinto saved Barca yesterday from total disaster
3. 3 penalties for RM were not given (two hand balls and Puyol on bezema)
4. And all yellows for diving that Barca players did?

 

[jonneymendoza]

i dont hate barca. more just jealous of there success and style of play that wenger has tried to mimic for so long.

they dont try and buy trophies unlike RM,chelsea and now city.

they go about trying to do things in the right way but not quite as good as arsenal(barca are apparently bank rolled by a bank i heard) but the fact that barca make super stars instead of buyng superstarts(yes they do sometimes buy a super star but there team is 90% made of barca youth) says it all.

THAT is how Arsenal should do things. make superstarts and occasionally buy a world clas player for 30+m.

you need that balance between bringing in youth and buying a few world class players. Barca have nailed it, Arsenal and the rest of the world, have not.

Also, Barca's and to some extent, arsenals pilosophy is the way the game should be played.

I may not have told u lot this but i was once a MASSIVE barca fan. bought there T shirts and everything. they was m second team simply for the fact that they are very similar to arsenal.

i am only jealous now as this team has wiped my beloved arsenal to the flaw multiple times

 

[bebo]

I think all gooners feel that about Barca...envy in a proper way! I think drekkard loves Arsenal for that very reason too. Gerd has an idea that mutd fans hate Barca , due to losing 2 cl final. I tend to believe they dislike RM more the way they do business n the simple fact fergie wouldn't sell them a virsus called "CR7"

 

[jonneymendoza]

drekkard shouldnt be scared to post in the arsenal thread! he should understand us guners getting upset whenever baca beat us. its normal

 

[bebo]

I think he can deal with the match it's the attacking the clubbusiness wise model that seem to put us drawing a line. He goes there to congratulate us on victory in europe matches. We need to do the same in return

 

[The_Special_One]

I think all gooners feel that about Barca...envy in a proper way! I think drekkard loves Arsenal for that very reason too. Gerd has an idea that mutd fans hate Barca , due to losing 2 cl final. I tend to believe they dislike RM more the way they do business n the simple fact fergie wouldn't sell them a virsus called "CR7"

Everybody hates Real Madrid!! I think the only fans in England that like RM more are the Spurs fans. And btw, Mancs hate both Real and Barça.

 

[bebo]

Nah RM aren't hated, Beckham brought the love back to RM imo. I like RM my father supported them growing up.he' s been to matches lots of time before even have friends who I called tio as a kid from toledo. They even moved to Dom.rep. Has business and all just from meeting each other at a match. Funny i thought we're blood too but later founf out their friendship started at a clasico. Well rm vs atl.madrid

 

[Ronaldinho_23]

MARCA newspaper

 

[Cuky]

am I drunk or I am actually seeing 3 hands from one player?

 

[Enzo]

I have to correct you:
1. Yes it wasn't good, but not because they didn't have antything to play for. RM just was better.
2. No comment on this. In my view, Pinto saved Barca yesterday from total disaster
3. 3 penalties for RM were not given (two hand balls and Puyol on bezema)
4. And all yellows for diving that Barca players did?

3. 3 penalties? Busquets didnt have hand ball, Abidal had, Sanchez was down by Ramos thats penalty too.
4. Who was diving in that game? Havent noticed. Even if they had it would be yellow. Lass played for red, ramos red, pepe red

 

[gerd]

Everybody hates Real Madrid!! I think the only fans in England that like RM more are the Spurs fans. And btw, Mancs hate both Real and Barça.

I'm a Spurs fan and i can say that the only team in the world i really don't like is Real Madrid. Basically in every match Madrid plays i'm supporting the other team...and you know what is strange, my all-time favourite player (well the second) did play for Real Madrid: Fernando Redondo.

Real Madrid is too much of an establishment team for me...And after what they did with their pitch and all their other assets, i even like them more (basically they "sold" the Bernabeu and all the other infrastructure they had to the Madrid municipality and could still use it (for free or for a symbolic rent ???). That way they got rid of their debt, that is manifestly unfair towards other teams in Europe.

I watch Genk getting hammered by Valencia (a team i really like) but they simply don't fight with equal weapons. Genk is financially sane by keeping their ambitions modest. Valencia is on the verge of bankrupt...this is not fair.

Give most Belgian, Dutch and Scandinavian teams the money clubs from big competitions have and they win the CL every single year...IMO lots of these big clubs actually are underachievers...not only the traditional underachievers like Spurs, Atletico Madrid, Inter (and i love both Spurs and Atletico) both also the so called succesfull clubs are actually underachieving.


PS: this post will haunt me. In a near future somebody will claim that i "hate" Real Madrid. I don't...it's just that football is usually about taking sides and i never ever take side for Real Madrid...Maybe there will come a day this happens.

 

[Cuky]

3. 3 penalties? Busquets didnt have hand ball, Abidal had, Sanchez was down by Ramos thats penalty too.
4. Who was diving in that game? Havent noticed. Even if they had it would be yellow. Lass played for red, ramos red, pepe red

Yes 3 penalties. Handball by Busquets and Abidal and Puyol pushing Benzema from behind when he was one on one with Pinto.

Diving: Sanchez in first half when he was played through, diving when Ramos' goal was disallowed, Fabregas...

 

[Ronaldinho_23]

Yes 3 penalties. Handball by Busquets and Abidal and Puyol pushing Benzema from behind when he was one on one with Pinto.

Diving: Sanchez in first half when he was played through, diving when Ramos' goal was disallowed, Fabregas...

- ramos red card in half second time by foul about fabregas..
-lass red card
- pepe 2 penaltys to alexis
- offside to alexis that no was
- offside to pedro that no was
- red card pepe , punch fabregas face

in firts match
- Red card pepe (remember)
- Red card carvalho, kick to messi without ball and for back..

 

[Valon]

+ red card to casilias
red card to Ozil
red card to benzema
red card to higuain

and then play alone

oh god barca players and fans are same always crying to refere and going to them like dogs all time hate this

 

[Ronaldinho_23]

+ red card to casilias
red card to Ozil
red card to benzema
red card to higuain

and then play alone

oh god barca players and fans are same always crying to refere and going to them like dogs all time hate this

you don't see the match, go out...

 

[tc811]

+ red card to casilias
red card to Ozil
red card to benzema
red card to higuain

and then play alone

oh god barca players and fans are same always crying to refere and going to them like dogs all time hate this

That's a bit extreme, not one of those players deserved a red card during the match. Maybe Busquets/Pepe for their excessive diving and play-acting.

 

[drekkard]

There's even people who thinks Fabregas didn't receive the usual Pepe punch in the face, or people who even think that Ramos goal was legit, when he clearly pulls Alves away. And there's even people saying Lass shouldn't have been sent out? Strangely all Madrid aggressions, violent actions and total lack of fairness are ignored the next minute. Following that logic, what's next? Barcelona players and his "antics" because they fall down and yell when a Madrid player break their leg or steps on them? Overall in the round 5 Madrid players deserved to be sent out and weren't and yet they speak of the ref! Even if you hate the likes of Busquets and Alves (and I understand most of those critics), only a kid or a teenager would fall for this...

Clearly there's a conspiration that makes Barcelona win because of the refs. Mourinho at Madrid has only won 1 out of 10 Classicos clearly because of the refs. Messi is doped. So are all Barcelona players, even if they are weaker, slower and smaller than players in all other big clubs. Barcelona players are the only ones who dive in the world. Everytime Barcelona wins an English team is down to Platini. Everytime a ref totally goes against Barcelona is... wait, that has never happened, I have a memory blackout right now, agh! Plus, Barcelona should be ashamed of all their wins, all of them undeserved. Guardiola should be ashamed of his titles, even of his 5-0 wins, because it's all down to Unicef and UEFA.

There's some people here who will enter only to puke his angerness and attack the club at any chance. And I'm tired of this puppets commenting his single-sided views of reality, so don't expect me to enter again on this. Have fun for yourselves.

 

[gerd]

Alex, don't bother...we know better...

 

[Cuky]

or people who even think that Ramos goal was legit, when he clearly pulls Alves away.

I was watching the game on Al Jazeera and commentator instantly said that there is no way that was Ramos' foul. There was contact, but not in extent to push Alves like that. And even linesman haven't flagged it.

 

[jonneymendoza]

I was watching the game on Al Jazeera and commentator instantly said that there is no way that was Ramos' foul. There was contact, but not in extent to push Alves like that. And even linesman haven't flagged it.

exactly. let drek go and run if he is fed up of people not agreeing with him