FC Barcelona Thread

gerd said:
Delighted.
What a shame that this coward Real team will win La Liga, but Barcelona have to blame themselves in that case. They will win the classico in Nou Camp in La Liga, but this win could well be totally irrelevant.
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Thats scary to be honest, that Barca win both La Liga games but title goes to Mourinho..
 
gerd said:
Delighted.
What a shame that this coward Real team will win La Liga, but Barcelona have to blame themselves in that case. They will win the classico in Nou Camp in La Liga, but this win could well be totally irrelevant.
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That's precisely what I think, complacency may give Real a title this year. Clearly Barcelona is the best team by far, but lacks some competitive mindset in some away matches. It makes me angry, but at the same time you can't be angry at all with a set of players and staff that has built this marvellous team.

There's a joke going around here: Barcelona has asked to play all his away league matches at the Bernabeu. That may seem a joke, but reveals the difference in intensity of the team depending on the opponent!
 
Pretty much like 06/07 and 07/08 then for Barca this year.

If they could be arsed they'd walk the league.

Anyway, quite honestly it shows that Madrid really do need to spend more money. They might win the league this year but won't win anything else. Simply don't have the right players to get anywhere near Barca.

Pepe should be banned retrospectively but they don't/can't do that in Spain?
 
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As long as Guardiola can keep his team together and that can play this sort of football, Madrid can buy whoever they want, Barcelona will be 9 times out of 10 the better team.
IMO it is very well possible that RM can win a match versus Barcelona, or even qualify over 2 matches...but this will always be a freak victory (it happens pretty regularly in football, that is one of the reasons football is that popular). A freak victory the way Inter could eliminate Barcelona when they won the CL.

And that is the big mistake RM's board made. They were blinded by that freak success and wanted Mourinho as a coach. I think the way Mourinho's teams play is not the way to beat this Barcelona team...it is even the least likely way to beat them. Look at what teams like Betis and Espanyol did the last years...they did loose their match. But the yshowed that Barcelona are uncomfortable when their opponents have a go and attack them. For me Mourinho has lost lots of credit since he is Real's coach. I used to admire him, now i'm beginning to think he is far from special...he is a great team builder and a very good motivator who had the luck tho have an exceptional Porto team...
 
matherto said:
Pretty much like 06/07 and 07/08 then for Barca this year.

If they could be arsed they'd walk the league.

Anyway, quite honestly it shows that Madrid really do need to spend more money. They might win the league this year but won't win anything else. Simply don't have the right players to get anywhere near Barca.

Pepe should be banned retrospectively but they don't/can't do that in Spain?
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Wrong, they have the right players...but Mourinho tries to reinvent the wheele when facing barca. And there might be some dissent already among the players (see Benzema's and Sergio Ramos's quotes after the game).
 
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raffupperv12 said:
Wrong, they have the right players...but Mourinho tries to reinvent the wheele when facing barca. And there might be some dissent already among the players (see Benzema's and Sergio Ramos's quotes after the game).
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If wenger had that team he would have beaten barca

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Real Madrid CERTAINLY has the players.

They don't have the game plan and the fluidity and the team spirit/unity of Barca that Guardiola has established over a few years now there. So I'm with Gerd. They can buy whoever they want (it's not players they lack or quality they lack), but as long as Pep is there doing his thing and RM are going about this tactically the wrong way then they'll be losers except the odd time.

Real Madrid squad is pretty much as good as it gets and one of the best the world has ever seen.
 
PLF said:
as long as Pep is there doing his thing and RM are going about this tactically the wrong way then they'll be losers except the odd time.
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Erm, I don't think is all about Pep, certainly he plays an important role in this equation, but it's more about the mentality. Barça has their own mentality and philosophy while Madrid is still building one. If you compare player by player, Madrid has a better overall squad, we lose when it comes to an established football concept.
 
The_Special_One said:
If you compare player by player, Madrid has a better overall squad, we lose when it comes to an established football concept.
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It seems Madrid buys players but rarely succeeds having a team.
How many players who won the golden ball haven't they bought, and how many won it while playing for Real Madrid? Not much i think.

As for Pepe: football don't needs players like him. He is scum.
 
I dunno about that, TSO. Is there a better manager at setting his team up mentally for a big game than Pep?

He's the one who implements that mentality. Seven games unbeaten at the Bernabeu is an astonishing record.
 
gerd said:
How many players who won the golden ball haven't they bought, and how many won it while playing for Real Madrid? Not much i think.
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Not meaning to jump on the Anti-RM wagon, but yeah i've been quite annoyed that they took credit for some Ballon d'Ors. Players who clearly received theirs for the previous season, but who added to RM's trophy cabinet: Figo in 2000, Ronaldo 2002, Cannavaro 2006 come to mind. I know I'm picking on little things...
 
Real Madrid is like football all-stars, Barcelona is like a perfect football collective, excellent synergy. Negative mentality vs Positive mentality.

God damn, this is pure Sith vs Jedi. As I remember in the end of saga Skywalker(Messi) wins them all.
 
And I'll continue to repeat, Madrid don't have the right players to beat Barcelona.

Mourinho knows how to beat them, he's proven it with Inter but he doesn't have the team at his disposal to do it with Real.

Higuain is fucking useless by the way, chokes in every big match.
 
I'd love to watch a training session with one of these teams. When there is contact during a legit tackle and it doesn't result in rolling on around, surrounding the ref and basically being candy-asses.

This the collection of the best two sets of professional footballers on the planet, but their playacting just ruins it for me. No matter how much I want to enjoy it.
 
Also, seeing the Ramos red card - that would be why Busquest goes down like a drama queen. Perhaps the softest yellow I've ever seen, perfectly good challenge.

But hey, have a roll around and you might get someone sent off. Great professional.

One day I genuinely hope Busquets gets a real challenge in on him. If only so he knows what it feels like.

Also, WTF is the ref doing at the end? Blows for a free kick at 2:45 into 3 mins, and doesn't let Real take it?
 
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referee was absolutely pants. how did barca win the tie? RM were a better team especially in this 2nd leg.

And never new fabregas was a fucking oscar winning actress. he was never like that at arsenal. shocking. nearly as bad as pepe
 
jonneymendoza said:
referee was absolutely pants. how did barca win the tie? RM were a better team especially in this 2nd leg.

And never new fabregas was a fucking oscar winning actress. he was never like that at arsenal. shocking. nearly as bad as pepe
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He was actually a pretty snide player at Arsenal too to be fair.
 
Forget about them, miki. There's some people that always come here with the same song and the same single-minded views to puke its hate towards anything Barcelona.

They will absolutely ignore that Madrid should have ended with 8 or 9 players in the 1st leg, they will ignore that Pepe deserved to be sent off at least twice in the match tonight, they will ingore even that Pepe shouldn't be in a pitch for months. They will ignore the 2 penalties to Alexis, the clamorous red card to Lass that the ref ignored again... They will only see the errors against Madrid (and there were lots tonight, too).

On the overall, I think Barcelona was a bit better and Madrid has a lot to think about. If they had played like that in the first match, probably they would have gone through. It's mainly their fault, and specifically Mourinho's fault as I see it. And if they insist on the referees and all this garbage, let them go that way. They will be again in the wrong direction.

By the way, even though I dislike Busquets, I can't see how the Ramos incident can't be a yellow. In La Liga there are tons of yellow cards shown every weekend for this. And I watch a lot of Premiere matches too and see lots of yellows for that. You just can't put your arms wide open in aerial fights.

All in all, a fantastic match for spectators, an intense battle and a good result for us, though it was too evident that we're still far from fit and we still need 1-2 weeks to get in shape. Congrats to the Madrid fans that see things with fairness, because that's the best Madrid I've seen in years.
 
beachryan said:
He was actually a pretty snide player at Arsenal too to be fair.
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I agree He learn from paddy .Pepe swinging elbow is out of order. Fabregas has been on the pitch with 2 teammates seeing their leg break he`ll never deliver that on anyone . I don`t think he was acting I think he`s new to the clasico imo . He knows rivalry Spurs, Mutd ,but He has close friends w/ a few RM players. It has to be strange for him in England his close friends were on Arsenal. Fab was not invisible he was performing well just not above the norm . He looked injured and playing through it.
 
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