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Your post is the best proof that all this is very subjective, abou.
I'm pretty sure most horror tackles (when the ball is involved) are more clumsyness than bad intent.
What was Rooney trying to do against Wigan ? Can there be any other answer than deliberately hurting the Wigan player ? If so, please give me a couple of possibilities....the ball was at least 20 metres away...at least. Why did he do that ? Was it related to the ball ? I don't think so.

It is also very interesting that you talk about the WItsel-Wasilewski incident. WIth all respect, but you don't know 10% of what happened there. You know why Witsel made that horror tackle (and the result is an horror tackle, there is no doubt about that) ? Because he was terrified of Wasilewski. The victim Wasilewski terrorrised Belgian football pitches for years when that happened. In the weeks before that match, he had broken several noses using his elbows...that guy was the butcher of Belgian football and is now known as a victim...that must be one of the biggest jokes in Belgian football (of course i'm exagerating). Witsel and Standard had the grace not to mention that young Witsel was terrified the whole of the match before the incident. At the time Standard had a fantastic team: Dante, Fellaini, Witsel, Jovanovic, Defour, Mbokani and others. They finally succeeded in winning the Jupiler League, but the matches against Anderlecht were very, very violent...they were all about intimidation...inexperienced young Witsel lost it....I'm not saying he didn't made a mistake, he fully dserved the ban het got and certainly should have had more, people who only saw the horrific images don't know half of the story...

After that incident Wasilewski calmed down a litle bit, but he was still one of the most violent players...now he is playing for Leicester, i wonder how he is doing. He was idolized by Anderlecht fans, some of them even go to matches of Leicester...but all the non Anderlecht Belgian fans absolutely hated him...this man never was a victim.

And by the way, i don't read any convincing argument in your last post. The fact that the ball is involved or not is essential. Football is all about having possession of the ball.

Why foul a player when the ball is nowhere near ?

Look at the absolutely bonkers penalty Yanga mbiwa got for what he did to Eto'o. To me that was a clear cut penalty...ther ewas no need to do that.

Now about Rooney against Wigan. Was that a foul like Yanga Mbiwa's ? Not at all, that was an assault with the ball nowhere near. The starting point of this discussion was what Yaya Touré did with Van Wolfswinkel. I think 95% of the non Manchester City fans will agree that he should have been banned, if you know that both Caroll and Bellamy got bans for similar "fouls"...

What Rooney did was much more violent and futher away from the ball.

This said, Rooney is a fantastic player who deserves to be a hero for United fans. He is an unselfish team player, but that time he made a big mistake and came away with it, unlike Witsel who made a mistake...
 
Not identical at all.
(In my memory) the ball was much further away in Rooney's case...
It could well be that i saw the images again, i might reconsider. It is possible that Rooney's action became something "mythical" for me, that in my memory it has become much worse...

You know what Younggun, Abou and Beach...maybe i should stop posting about that incident. As a player i'm rather fond of Rooney, although imo he has something that is "repulsive" (that is much too strong but i can't find another way of writing this). What i like about him is that he has the skills to be a world star, but he is too much of a team player to become a star...

Let's just forget this, it was meant as a wind-up but nevertheless i shouldn't have brought this up (again). Sorry.
 
I'm not even sure it's the worse thing Rooney's done on the pitch.

I'm sure you're remembering it being much worse than it was. It's like me saying Januzaj is the best Belgian footballer ever or something.
 
Oh...Still, they aren't fucked yet.
Even though I'd like them to stay in the prem, it'd better for the club to be relegated, clean up the team and get a fresh start with some regulations involved that way Magth won't go nuts.
 
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Oh...Still, they aren't fucked yet.
Even though I'd like them to stay in the prem, it'd better for the club to be relegated, clean up the team and get a fresh start with some regulations involved that way Magath won't go nuts.
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Fulham actually have a very good youth setup. If they do go down, I would like to see them give chances to some of those players...*cough* Emerson Hyndman *cough*. Also, I just checked out Fulham's U18s on transfermarkt and they apparently have a kid by the name Moussa Dembélé. What are the odds?!
 
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The ball being involved has little to do with it, especially when it's quite obvious that the offender only has eyes for the player, Ben Thatcher's vile assault of Pedro Mendes for example.

Your countryman Axel Witsel's challenge on Wasilewski that broke his leg was disgusting, yet because the ball was "involved" it makes it fairer than Rooney's elbow?

It's just a bizarre thing to say, there's been plenty of worse incidents over the years. In fact, there's been plenty of elbows similar to Rooney's, like Gerrard's on Michael Brown a few seasons ago:

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But you don't see me calling them the worse thing I've ever seen since I started watching football.
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That was a really stupid thing for Gerrard to do and he was very very lucky. He did it because if you look at it in full, Gerrard was running forward to support the attack and when Brown spotted him he changed direction to intentionally block him off and he attempted to swing his arm at Gerrard who reacted quickly and twatted him in the head.

BUT who here wouldn't want to smash Michael Brown in the head at the first opportunity? He's a massive shitbag and a bully, horrible player.
 
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Anyone see the Alan Pardew and David Meyler touchline incident?! :LOL:

This guy can be so entertaining as a manager lol! If anyone has a video, please post here.

Remember his sideline argument with Arsene Wenger a few years back as West Ham coach? lol and there were a few others.... lol
 
I remember Pardew saying Wenger is ruining English football by not playing many Englishmen back when Pardew was at West Ham...

Also, wasn't he fired because he had an affair with some higher-up at West Ham?
 
I read that he had an affair wiht one of his players' wife.
I've seen the images. It was stupid what he did, but not as bad as English media made it.

I heard on MOTD that Newcastle fined him with 100.000 pound and afterwards that his year salary would be 30.000 pound. Surely, that must be a totally false rumour...
 
Do you mean 300.00 pounds? Even that would be relatively low. Never only 30.000 a year for a PL manager.

Looked it up and apparently he earns 500k a year.
 
I s it just me or did Spurs just get massively punished for nothing there? Red card and penalty for something that didn't look much like a foul at all. I might be wrong, of course, but it looked like a massive dive from Eto'o. Eto'o has spent most the match on the ground appealing for FK's by the way, a chronic diver obviously.


Nice karma there for Vertonghen by the way. Tells Spurs to step up then he goes on to dribble as last man. He's not the sharpest tool in the shed, is he?

EDIT: Seen a replay now, it seems disgraceful to give a penalty there. Eto'o was flying through the air before Kaboul even touched him. PL is simply being destroyed by extremely poor refereeing. It's a tragedy. Bundesliga is destroyed too, but that has more to do with the uneven economical situation. Maybe Italy is the solution for some fair football despite recent scandals?


EDIT2: LOL 4-0. What is actually Spurs' goal difference against the top 4 this year? 0-25 or something?

EDIT3: It's actually 2-18. Pathetic performance by a pathetic excuse for a top team. (no offense, let's be realistic here).
 
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Haven't seen a team win 4-0 and yet be so meh for quite some time. All 4 goals gifted to them, 1 by the ref.

Thought Spurs were doing pretty well up until then
 
Yep, I actually thought the first half was well above expected by Spurs. (Taken into account that I don't expect anything but abysmal from that side it might not say much though) They were the best team until Vertonghen fell and made an ass of himself, really.

I'm not really a huge PL fan and I've never been. But I have to say that it's not a sign of strength that the 5th placed team has -16 goals against the teams above on the table, and they aren't that many points behind.

Seeing how pathetic my own team has occasionally been this season, I can surely relate to how Spurs fans must feel at the moment but Dortmund did have half their squad and whole the defensive lineup out injured for a while. I blame most of it on bad luck with injuries to be honest.

If Spurs take CL spot this season, I'll wear a Spurs shirt and sit among Bayern supporters when they visit Dortmund next. The first available fixture after the English season is concluded I mean...
 
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City need to change whole defenders in summer , all 4 of them.

Chelsea weren't that good, when you see 4-0 you think they have destroyed Spurs but they gift 3 goals + ref one and 1 red card

anyway this spurs doesnt deserve to be in europe , I said before season start and I'll say again , if spurs or Everton finish above Liverpool this season I'll stop watching football.
 
Well, it was not a red card and it was not a penalty but Spurs capitulated completely like so many times before this season. They've lost all possible six pointers in the competition for a CL spot so far though so they can't blame anyone but themselves. Had they done the job once or twice, this could've been blamed on bad luck and kept on going but the team lacks backbone which is what this boils down to. This match was just one of many that they didn't perform good enough and they didn't create their own fortune. Chelsea was very lucky, they sucked and wouldn't have gotten much tonight if not for Vertonghen and the referee. Mourinho keeps on being lucky and playing anti-football as usual.
 
You guys are so biased.
Yes Etoo dived, but Kaboul pushend him definitely. That was a penalty.
I'm a Spurs fan and once i saw the team sheet i prayed for a result like this. Sherwood is clueless IMO.

And what you forget: Lloris should have been sent off after less than one minute for a foul on Ettoo, instead the ref gave a free kick to Spurs for off-side and Etoo was clearly onside. In the second half Sandro should have been sent off too with two yellow cards. This was a match where all the referee's decisions went Spurs' way.

Most Spurs fans seem to love both Sandro and Kaboul. Yesterday they both played once again abysmal.
 
Well, there's biasedness and there's blindness in fear of being biased which you clearly suffer severely from gerd.

"I'm a Spurs fan" isn't really any kind of credible Ethos or Logos in a Spurs discussion regardless of which side you're on.
 
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