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I know I'm biased - but I've gotta say I don't get City fans. Your player refuses to play, goes and plays golf for 6 months in his home country. Your manager says he'll never play again for you. You try to sell him in January. But. Then you stop scoring goals, you plead for him to come back. He does.

He then celebrates with a golf swing - highlighting his 6 month vacation - and you cheer him? I'd tell him where he could put his f*cking golf club.
 
Good 3-0 win for Swansea today, and yet another great goal from Gylfi Sigurðsson. I think we are more or less safe now, Blackburn were hopeless and they deserve to go down!
 
beachryan said:
I know I'm biased - but I've gotta say I don't get City fans. Your player refuses to play, goes and plays golf for 6 months in his home country. Your manager says he'll never play again for you. You try to sell him in January. But. Then you stop scoring goals, you plead for him to come back. He does.

He then celebrates with a golf swing - highlighting his 6 month vacation - and you cheer him? I'd tell him where he could put his f*cking golf club.
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I'm not and I'd agree. I don't think he should be playing, I don't care how good he is. He acted like a cunt through the whole ordeal and got away with it.
 
beachryan said:
I know I'm biased - but I've gotta say I don't get City fans. Your player refuses to play, goes and plays golf for 6 months in his home country. Your manager says he'll never play again for you. You try to sell him in January. But. Then you stop scoring goals, you plead for him to come back. He does.

He then celebrates with a golf swing - highlighting his 6 month vacation - and you cheer him? I'd tell him where he could put his f*cking golf club.
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Small minded club.
 
beachryan said:
I know I'm biased - but I've gotta say I don't get City fans. Your player refuses to play, goes and plays golf for 6 months in his home country. Your manager says he'll never play again for you. You try to sell him in January. But. Then you stop scoring goals, you plead for him to come back. He does.

He then celebrates with a golf swing - highlighting his 6 month vacation - and you cheer him? I'd tell him where he could put his f*cking golf club.
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cmon that was hilarious stuff there you must admit!!! I notice Mancini took Tevez out during the Wesbrom massacre after he score I bet he didn`t anticipated a standing ovation for him. Mancini looking more n more a fool, but in the end results will keep his job maybe.... I hope MUTD do enough to hold the title.
 
YoungGun_UK said:
Small minded club.
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Why?

As for beachryan's reaction: as a neutral i can understand him. Most fans are different.

I guess beachryan does not applaud when Rooney scores? What Tevez did with City is worse (and he's an ass-hole, who thinks he's bigger than whatever club he plays for) but if i remember United fans weren't too pleased with Rooney after his contract gambles...

Don't misunderstand me, Rooney is class and on top of that has always been a player who played for the club rather than for himself. But the way he handled his contract was not the most classy one...Basically i don't see that much difference with what Tevez did in Munich.

And as much as i dislike Tevez, everybody deserves a second chance.

The Tevez thing in Munich is not only about Tevez, it's maybe more about Mancini. Would Tevez have done this with Ferguson? I strongly doubt it.
 
Football fans are fickle creatures by and large. So long as a player plays well and the team is doing fine they seem willing to forgive all manner of indiscretions on the part of players.

Whether it is extramarital relations, sheer greed (Wellbeck trying to hold the club to an exorbitant 60K per week for a fairly ordinary player) right up to manslaughter (Lee Hughes).

Indeed a player formerly derided by a set of fans if he turns up at that same club in their colours is generally welcomed with open arms.

It is no wonder fans get taken for a ride by clubs and the football business in general. Their loyalty which is the one abiding constant in the game gets abused continually.

Kun is unsurprisingly good. A fact that the pathetically poor standard of pundits that get wheeled out on Sky ie Redknapp, Thompson etc etc seemed not to realize.

The little fellow only has scored and created goals against Brazil, Barca and Real but the question asked was would he struggle in the EPL ?

They answered to a man yes. Thompson even going so far as to say he didn't think he was that good......:FAIL:

Sky are so desperate to perpetuate the myth of the EPL as being the best league in the world it does get embarassing at times.

It may be the most watched league in the world but it certainly is not the best. Primarily the arrival of players outside of these isles is what has made it exciting. Which reflects poorly on the academy programmes here.

Still the predominant emphasis on pace and power over technique.

And the EPL clubs seem to want to kill off the rest of the pyramid. This new academies programme in which they can get to cherry pick other clubs academies is a disgrace particularly to clubs that rely on it to keep ticking over like Crystal Palace, Watford and Ipswich.

We've already lost Dominic Ball last summer to Tottenham for nothing and Manchester City tried to pinch Sean Murray a year ago while Arsenal are trying to poach Tommie Hoban and Bernard Mensah.
 
Have to agree that we football fans are a fickle bunch, I highly doubt the fans as a collective would react to Tevez any differently if he'd done it to their team whether it be Man Utd, Arsenal or whoever. The only difference would be the reaction of individuals, in particular the actions of each manager.
 
Good post Albiceleste.
I particularly feel the same about the way big clubs poach players from litle clubs, although for some reason it seems less tragic if my favourite club poaches litle clubs. In that way i'm like most fans.

But one has to admit that what is happening now more and more roughly since the Bosman arrest and since the big clubs united themselves, is not good for football in the long term.

I particularly ressent some middle clubs hypocrisy. It seems that here in Belgium we have a fantastic under 16 national team. People who have been saying for years that Eden Hazard would become something special are saying that in that team there are 5 or 6 players who are as gifted as Hazard (for what it's worth). It seems that foreign clubs think the same way since of that squad only two players play in Belgium (unsurprisingly for Anderlecht and Genk, the clubs with the best youth system). Last year in february Anderlecht cried wolf because a 15 year old went to Man Utd. Two years before that Anderlecht poached the same player from Brussels...this is hypocrisy.

It's good for a sport if there is an element for surprise in it. Football has this element of surprise much more than more athletic sports and IMO that is the reason why it is the most popular 'sport' (IMO it's more a game) in the world. The way big clubs are trying to influence the organisation of football is killing the surprise factor...in the long term this will be a huge blow for football.
 
Indeed.

In the past clubs relied on great managers, coaching innovations or a particularly talented crop of youngsters coming through at the same time to mark their dominance on the football stage.

For example Brian Clough and Peter Taylor as a tandem, Zubeldia at Estudiantes with his dietary programmes and meticulous match preperation dossiers long before computer analysis or a team like Celtic for instance in winning the EC.

Clubs with large supporter bases generally those in the cities still tended to predominate but they never had it all their own way.

It's not good having a duopoly across so many leagues. It will kill the interest for other clubs fans.

The basic premise of a football fan is to live in hope for the next day, month or year when things may turn around for the better. Unfortunately the way the G17 clubs in Europe and it's associates are trying to load things in their favour is distasteful to the idea of a balanced competition.

Some were even complaining that APOEL should not be in the quarterfinals of the EC because they are not glamorous enough....
 
How the hell can you give that as a goal? Crazy crazy decision.

That decision didn't even need goal line technology, it was nowhere near. If you can't see it, don't give it.
 
And of course that absolutely DISASTROUS decision to call it a goal wouldn't get as near as much attention neither from fans nor the media as the Ashley Young penalty call... just because it's Chelsea and not United.
 
Its Martin Atkinson and Chelsea. Nothing should surprise us at this point. The man that thought Balotellis challenge on Song wasn't even a yellow. Who didn't send off the eventual goal scorer in the key United Chelsea match after 4 seperate yellow warranting incidents.

He tucks up last week and is rewarded with a semi final appearance.
 
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 5 Chelsea

Surprising scoreline today. Surprising referee's decision. Nevertheless, a cool finishing to Chelsea.
 
I'm a Spurs fan, but if you loose 1-5, you don't have to complain about the ref.
Mata's goal was not a goal, but bear in mind that a ref has to take a decision in a split second. I'm pretty sure the ref was influenced by the reaction of the Chelsea players.

For Spurs this might be a blessing in disguise.

I don't understand the negative bias against Chelsea. When Drogba scored Spurs were slightly the better team, but boy what a beauty that was. And from then on Chelsea were the better team. Spurs were lucky not to concede before the Mata non-goal...and afterwards Chelsea countered brilliantly.

I'm not sure if Cech should have got a red card...to be honest i think the rule that fouling as the last man should always be a red card except for GK's. To me that is absurd.

Mikel definitely should have had a red, but by then the match was played (how stupid to take revenge).
 
english football its corrupt i bleieve this , every time happening same shits this is not possible !

@gerd 5-1 one isnt result just , if chelsea goal was not alloved will be 1-0 then with one goal for spurs and one red card for cech matchs will be diferent believe me ;)

whatever good we face chalsea , i was sure spurs was going to beat us , so i see chelsea more easy to beat !
 
If you lived here Gerd you'd find there is a quite a bit of resentment towards Chelsea from many other clubs.

Anyway regarding the goal that wasn't although Atkinson has been guilty of poor decisions in the past if technology was available then that decision could and would have been overturned with rapidity.
 
unlucky for Spurs , although having Gallas facing the Drog was never going to change. Gallas can`t defend the Drog, he`s the reason they made the song "Who let the Drog out" Gallas was very poor on the day. Malouda pushed him off then he stop playing :LOL: reminds me of the day he lost the captaincy at The Arsenal ,refusing to leave the pitch at the end of the game just sat on the pitch in protest while dudu went to the hospital w/ a broken leg.

Chels had some crazy decision going their way I thought the offside goals were bad vs Wigan ,but a goal that never crossed the line is a all new shock .
 
bebo said:
that is harsh a UFO landing :LOL:
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Indeed bebo. ;) I was in the Rookery and we could all see it wasn't a goal. I could see how the linesman might have thought it was a goal, although the Reading players did not even appeal might have been a clue that it was not a goal.

Suffice it to say the referee Atwell not the linesmen got immense stick through the rest of the game.....

Officials are going to be made to look like fools in some important matches. Whereas we the watching public can see a decision in many angles they will be left hung out to dry by their own governing bodies.

Platini's idea of the officials behind the line wouldn't have worked today. The sooner UEFA and FIFA indeed any continental body embrace technology in what is a multimillion pound business the better.

All other sports have it. It is staggering association football does not.

Today a quick look at the replay from the fourth official and he could have told Atkinson it was not a goal.
 
Well egos play a part too...We seen calls even at an error won`t be given back. What makes 1 player get ban and another overlooked . I think refs need to have room to go back on the decision ,but will the body in whole admit such errors or how far can a decision take . Refs want to be above the game imo not part of it.
 
Don't mean to cause a stir here but once again Ashley Young?? The FA had video evidence to see he dived last week, denied QPR appeal and issued no reprimand to Young whatsoever. In other words, they let a cheat prosper! Give him positive reinforcement and he will do it again. And so he just did!

3 games in a row now that United has had refs in their favour. Made up penalties vs QPR and Villa, and that disallowed Wigan goal that I still can't understand what the ref saw there. It's getting ridiculous.

Not to single out Man United, Chelsea had their way too - again, after having two illegal goals vs Wigan.
The usual suspects getting things their way as per usual. They wouldhave won their games anyway, but it does happen way tto often to cause discomfort. Seems quite fixed to me...
 
Rentboy said:
Don't mean to cause a stir here but once again Ashley Young?? The FA had video evidence to see he dived last week, denied QPR appeal and issued no reprimand to Young whatsoever. In other words, they let a cheat prosper! Give him positive reinforcement and he will do it again. And so he just did!

3 games in a row now that United has had refs in their favour. Made up penalties vs QPR and Villa, and that disallowed Wigan goal that I still can't understand what the ref saw there. It's getting ridiculous.

Not to single out Man United, Chelsea had their way too - again, after having two illegal goals vs Wigan.
The usual suspects getting things their way as per usual. They wouldhave won their games anyway, but it does happen way tto often to cause discomfort. Seems quite fixed to me...
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Did you actually see the match or are just going off the reporting of it? If that was Evra, or Rafael, or Welbeck then there wouldn't be any commentary on it. I couldn't believe the pundits doing my footage - they'd made up their mind BEFORE seeing the replay. Then they had to retrofit their opinion - which was it was a dive without contact - into the situation - which was there was contact before the defender managed to get his foot out of the way, and that contact stopped Young from getting to his next touch. You know, illegal contact impeding the attacking player...what's that called...oh yeah a foul!

It. Was. A. Foul. Last week he dove, this week he went to ground under the contact. There is no controversy here, please keep walking. But no, it's United, so I'm sure that'll be an even bigger story than a goal that didn't even cross the line.

Oh and 3 matches in a row every fan of every other team knows about the soft penalties - and yet not a single mention of 3 consecutive matches where we had stonewall handballs not given in the area. Course not. Or Welbeck getting pulled back against Wigan when clean through, staying on his feet and getting nothing.
 
I`m waiting till tomorrow night, Arsenal vs Wigan before commenting any further :LOL: We have 5 games left and we can`t manage to get a single penalty shout! at Home.

New rule : shirt pulling, handball , blocking players inside the box results are " no penalty " at the Emirates :JAY:

I saw a gif of Young dramatic falling on a reverse angle didn`t look convincing ,but I`ve seen Bale dramatically fall w/o a player near him . Some get away with it some don`t...I vividly remember Young diving after the famous Eduardo dive where he was punished then unpunished and it was a Tuesday night and then Young did it that same week on Thursday night Europa. Thing is this is not a Mutd thing Young was this sort before only Now ppl are noticing him and he has a choice whether continue or choose not too! fans will support him for the cause they won`t like it but look no further to Tevez and City "Squeaky Bum Time"
 
I don't see why Ashley Young would be a bigger/cheater diver than the average football player.
What happened to Spurs is bad luck and disallowing Mata's goal might or might not have changed to match, we will never know that. If Mata's goals would have been disallowed the match would have been totally different and then Spurs might not even have scored their goal (and all the fuzz about Cech having to be sent off would not have occured either).

If Spurs are blaming the ref, they are deluding themselves. Chelsea were the better team and deserved to go through.

I agree with Bebo on Gallas: he was very poor against Drogba.
 
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