This encapsulates exactly what's missing for me.
You do have to pass it around for slightly longer on "Authentic", but you aren't causing any holes to form, because the tactical adherence is pixel-perfect.
Framepacing is definitely better than in the previous two games, but if your system is really old, I'm not sure whether it'll run ok for you. You could test it with EA Play.
Really the personalized gameplay and the realistic gameplay option disabled the game becomes better, it looks like another game, it seems to me that the authentic gameplay is broken even after playing without it enabled, the game became really good, I just need to find a way for the AI to stay more with the ball and exchange more passes, I also increased the marking to 80!
Shame the Frosty folks never spent time decrypting FIFA 17 so we can’t have mods.
Fouls is the thing harder to achieve. The average in a FC game is 1-2, while in a match you have 10-12 fouls. I understands the gameplay lead don't want to stop 20 times the flow of the game in 10 minutes, but at leat 5/6 is a good number.
Not only that it's not realistic, it's not fun either. I still keep authentic features on but i started using custom sliders instead of authentic sliders. It's very half baked and the CPU cannot play properly with those sliders.
That's where I'm feeling as well. It's just a bit "soft" with the authentic gameplay On. With it Off, it feels like past iterations - and with that comes some of the old issues, but we've overcome them through the years.
In my experience here it's the opposite lol in authentic gameplay the defenders run away from the ball and in custom with authentic mode disabled it has been much easier to deal with the defense! I think we will have a good game this year with authentic mode disabled and with correct custom sliders, I think the problem at the moment is to make the AI defense more reactive, more compaction of the players on the lawn and make the AI less direct and work the ball more, but I think with mods or some correct sliders we will have a beautiful game!
Strange because it seems the driver to create 1v1 defending was to make the game “harder” for competitive players. Authentic mode it seems is for people like us who want a single player simulation unlike “competitive” players who are just abusing the game to score the most goals, with no regard to how actual football is played.
As you said, the game gets very "heavy and stuck" in authentic mode, which makes delivery and marking difficult! It seems to me that the idea of authentic and valid mode is interesting, but it still lacks refinement. It seems that the authentic mode team is small and was launched in a hurry. My vision is this at the moment!
Yeah, I'll say that post has caused a bit of a splitting of hairs with our discord slider testing group because exactly as you say, it's about what individuals choose for their game. Do you want slower pace? Then you may have to sacrifice proper stamina depletion. Do you want faster pace, or a more confident CPU, you may have to raise Sprint to do so. Want players to never have a chance of jogging animation - raise sprint, but the feel may be a lot faster with a 44 sprint at 50 acceleration compared to a 44 sprint at 46 acceleration because you also want proper stamina depletion.
Trust me, there is no difference between acceleration 44 and acceleration 50 when it comes to stamina depletion, i tested it today and you will always end up with 55-75% stamina depletion. Sweet spot is sprint 44 and acceleration 44. Higher acceleration is another game breaker because it makes players less grounded and they lack of weight.
I'm not going to take a position on this, but I also don't like blanket statements because the game is so subjective to the game's context. For example, I played the same 41 in-game minutes to gauge on sprint/acc 44/46 and 44/50. The latter was more depleted at that time than the first. That follows the logic I expect. Is it a whole bit more? No, but to say there's no difference is just leaving the door open for response, which is another reason I don't use absolutes. I've learned that for every statement made, another statement can be made to refute it - that's why personal preference is given more room than arbitrary values.
I'm not going to take a position on this, but I also don't like blanket statements because the game is so subjective to the game's context. For example, I played the same 41 in-game minutes to gauge on sprint/acc 44/46 and 44/50. The latter was more depleted at that time than the first. That follows the logic I expect. Is it a whole bit more? No, but to say there's no difference is just leaving the door open for response, which is another reason I don't use absolutes. I've learned that for every statement made, another statement can be made to refute it - that's why personal preference is given more room than arbitrary values.
Sprint/acc 44/46:
Sprint/acc 44/50:
And again, I don't agree with the higher acceleration makes them less grounded. Here's a raw stream that started using 32/65 sprint/acc from last week, eventually finishing in lower accel values. It was just some chaos/stress testing at the time. In terms of feel, it wasn't off the mark at all. In fact, it shows how authentic features On may be masking some sliders impact/adherence.
In the end, it's what is relative to what is being used to balance the values. A higher marking, a higher aggression tactically, the emphasis to sprint is greater with a higher sprint value, etc. Context matters, and that's how we navigate within all these variables and the sacrifices they require for something close to a footy game. Arbitrary values serve as thresholds, but sometimes the game just needs more sample size and feedback - or sometimes we need to get out of the weeds and just accept that one size won't ever fit all.
I usually play 10 minutes (I believe that is half length), World Class. It was a women's match, Germany v Finland
I was using Matt10's sliders btw. Mostly V1, with a little nod to his latest set (like Pass error down to 70, & keeping the GK on 48)
Another good example of what I mean about EA, and in this example FC players themselves, looking at "quick fixes" rather than actual fixes that make a good, organic, unforced gameplay model.
We had the "kick off goal fix" earlier this week, which simply makes the AI defenders defend for 30 seconds and then go back to being bollards...
And now this request (see second line):
Do you not think that the better fix would be to make passing important - even necessary? Rather than pointlessly rewarding people for taking a pointless action?
If you don't need to pass - even in the 11v11 game, "Competitive" or "Authentic" - do you not realise there's a MUCH bigger issue here? A combination of pass accuracy and passive defences?
