EA SPORTS FC 25

[fregen]

Why even have 11 vs 11 matches? Just release Rush as the game. I mean your ai players doesn’t do anything anyway. I go 1 v 1 as the game wants me to when I defend but then my opponent just pass the ball to a attacker who are through on goal since the other defender just don’t do anything/jog a couple of yards away from him. How is that football?

But as said before, it’s not a game for people who want to replicate some sort of real football. When I read the comments onTwitter for this patch I finally understood that football gaming is dead for people like me. I’m the minority and EA or whatever will never cater to us again. Simple as.

So I went back to Seasons and went for FUMA matches. And I got to say it’s quite good. It isn’t that hard to find matches, maybe there is a bigger audience out there who are tired of the pinball/hockey gameplay?

I have played around 15 matches and 3-0 is the biggest score so far. It’s mostly 2-1, 1-0, etc. I have seen goalkeepers making saves I haven’t seen in over 100 matches before when playing assisted, I have scored from crossing from different angles of the pitch and I have even seen a diving header that almost ended in a lovely goal.

It might be that it’s so far from the other crap and the flaws will shine through soon but I’m enjoying it so far. Give it a try and come back with your opinions! 😃

 

[tomjaz]

So I understand that FIFA fans have managed to get their shit back? PES fans have been trying for a long time, but no one is listening. 🤣

 

[Sami 1999]

Now that EA killed origin, just starting the games would be a pain in the ass since half of the time EA app just bugs out and won't even boot game until I restart the app. Other times the library wont even load or tell me my game is not licensed. Unbelievable..

 

[NeoRetro]

My too cents about my first impression on the kind of EAFC Lite or Demo on the PSN (always trying vanilla to understand what's the overall intentions and issues).
I didn't took it since i took 24 and it was with the 22 and both were to me the worst football games i tried since a very very long time.

But that EA FC 25 seems to get a good inertia, i change the defense to tactical and it's more effective than the past, now that players seems to have weight i feel them more to handle tham, no i didn't trying everything that an human can/can't do.
As you tried every possible stuffs, i'm thrusting testers here when you said that's the case.

Simply liked the feeling to play, to move with your player with the ball, passes seemed at a all seemed okay. Trying the game only on 2025 means that some gameplay corrections have been made, i know the most are for FUT or Career bugs lol.

Now, it was a bit too easy to score, the CPU defensive AI is a bit off, so the games resulted on pretty high score on a good level of difficult (below Legend)
And i found it a bit too easy, a bit like Fifa 20 but with a way better feeling to dribble and move your players, shoots etc.
I've heard than the 23 was also okay, i missed the only "almost playable one session every 10 days" versions and brought the shitty one such as 22 and 24 (perhaps the worst of all)

 

[Chris Davies]

Whenever I watch clips like this, I think of what the other guy is saying to his followers...

While he is saying "look how free and unscripted this is", the other guy is saying:

"Just pace-abuses down the sideline, couldn't catch him even with Vini Jr., my defenders can't get near the ball despite being inches away from it and just needing to stick out their foot, SCRIPTED GAME".

 

[saturator]

3 matchs with last patch;
For me it's playable

PSG Vs Manchester City Champion's League FUMA Legend



Liverpool Vs Arsenal FUMA Legend



Juventus Turin vs SCC Napoli FUMA Legend


3 actions

PU Napoli nice double crosses action



Saka top corner header



Barcola stunning goal Vs Manchester City

 

[steff]

3 matchs with last patch;
For me it's playable

PSG Vs Manchester City Champion's League FUMA Legend



Liverpool Vs Arsenal FUMA Legend



Juventus Turin vs SCC Napoli FUMA Legend


3 actions

PU Napoli nice double crosses action



Saka top corner header



Barcola stunning goal Vs Manchester City

It looks weird, like ice hockey, the way they can flip right/left in an instant with the puck stuck to the stick, the speed is too fast as well.

 

[saturator]

It looks weird, like ice hockey, the way they can flip right/left in an instant with the puck stuck to the stick, the speed is too fast as well.

You have a boost of speed when you played a match on Champion's League mode. It's worst when it's City and with the rain! This match on career mode will be slower with less ice hockey problems.

 

[thelinnen]

Interesting to see FC 25 "underperformed" during the Christmas period. They mention that they recently gave the gameplay a update as some kind of idea that will improve things? 🙄
https://x.com/VGC_News/status/1882181343205040222

I have never seen such aggressive marketing as I have in the past few months. I've had emails, promotions on Xbox offering me free coins and packs, it's on Pepsi Max cans at the moment. I've also never seen it on sale for £25 before Christmas.

People have definitely stopped buying it, and it's spooked EA enough to ramp up the marketing budget.

 

[Hels The Ronin]

I have never seen such aggressive marketing as I have in the past few months. I've had emails, promotions on Xbox offering me free coins and packs, it's on Pepsi Max cans at the moment. I've also never seen it on sale for £25 before Christmas.

People have definitely stopped buying it, and it's spooked EA enough to ramp up the marketing budget.

EA FC is over, guys. It will be only child and casuals buying it. Sure, it is the only game that has career mode nowadays, but it's the same shit than years before, and with worse gameplay.

For real, if you play FIFA 16 and 17, they have 10 times better base, and with a simple mod, you can have much better results. The only issue I have with this, are CB Jockey bug, that is supposed to be corrected in EA FC 25, but on exchange it has a much more frantic pace that you can't correct even with mods.

Having so many options and alternatives, time is running off for EA. Because problem is that casuals have also eFootball and soon UFL, and another one called GOALS on the way, FOR FREE. And probably with better gameplay than FC so... They really have a problem. So it will Konami aswell. Too many companies for the same market.

Meanwhile, the question remains... What will happen with FIFA trademark? 2 years so long without a game with the FIFA brand on the name and doesn't seem that there's any on its way. But if any big company (2K has been mentioned several times but I am reluctant to think so) steps on the market with a decent gameplay (FIFA 16-17 like but without its issues) and career mode, we could be speaking about the end of, not only a legendary franchise, but having in count EA's benefits from FC, the fall of a whole company.

As I see it, EA is quite lucky this hasn't happened yet. But who knows, maybe some developer is brave enough to take on in the upcoming years. Had this happen or even 5 years before, we could have seen EA sinking, but with Konami being it's main rival, now doing f2p eSports game, they timed it right.

We will se if there's someone brave enough to step on.

 

[Irvine09]

EA FC is over, guys. It will be only child and casuals buying it. Sure, it is the only game that has career mode nowadays, but it's the same shit than years before, and with worse gameplay.

For real, if you play FIFA 16 and 17, they have 10 times better base, and with a simple mod, you can have much better results. The only issue I have with this, are CB Jockey bug, that is supposed to be corrected in EA FC 25, but on exchange it has a much more frantic pace that you can't correct even with mods.

Having so many options and alternatives, time is running off for EA. Because problem is that casuals have also eFootball and soon UFL, and another one called GOALS on the way, FOR FREE. And probably with better gameplay than FC so... They really have a problem. So it will Konami aswell. Too many companies for the same market.

Meanwhile, the question remains... What will happen with FIFA trademark? 2 years so long without a game with the FIFA brand on the name and doesn't seem that there's any on its way. But if any big company (2K has been mentioned several times but I am reluctant to think so) steps on the market with a decent gameplay (FIFA 16-17 like but without its issues) and career mode, we could be speaking about the end of, not only a legendary franchise, but having in count EA's benefits from FC, the fall of a whole company.

As I see it, EA is quite lucky this hasn't happened yet. But who knows, maybe some developer is brave enough to take on in the upcoming years. Had this happen or even 5 years before, we could have seen EA sinking, but with Konami being it's main rival, now doing f2p eSports game, they timed it right.

We will se if there's someone brave enough to step on.

As long as they have the majority of the biggest licenses exclusively, it really doesn’t matter what other games do. FIFA license doesn’t get you anything. GOALS isn’t even going to use real players & UFL is like a bad FUT clone. I’m a career mode guy & there’s nobody else left doing that.

 

[Hels The Ronin]

As long as they have the majority of the biggest licenses exclusively, it really doesn’t matter what other games do. FIFA license doesn’t get you anything. GOALS isn’t even going to use real players & UFL is like a bad FUT clone. I’m a career mode guy & there’s nobody else left doing that.

If someone gets FIFA license, is a matter of time they get leagues licenses aswell. Is not exclusive of EA, Konami also had almost all the leagues, if not by name, at least by teams. They REALLY will have a problem if any other game comes and does a game with career mode. That's what I mean, if anybody comes and gets into that game mode, EA will have a bad time. Moreover, if anybody managed to fix defenders jogging bug (where defenders don't follow marks in a counter) in old FIFAS like 16 and 17, EA would have a bad time, cause gp is MILES better than what we have now. How FIFA has gotten hyperfast from them till now is just crazy.

 

[Irvine09]

If someone gets FIFA license, is a matter of time they get leagues licenses aswell. Is not exclusive of EA, Konami also had almost all the leagues, if not by name, at least by teams. They REALLY will have a problem if any other game comes and does a game with career mode. That's what I mean, if anybody comes and gets into that game mode, EA will have a bad time. Moreover, if anybody managed to fix defenders jogging bug (where defenders don't follow marks in a counter) in old FIFAS like 16 and 17, EA would have a bad time, cause gp is MILES better than what we have now. How FIFA has gotten hyperfast from them till now is just crazy.

I don’t agree. FIFA license has zero impact on acquiring league licenses. EPL, La Liga & Bundesliga are all long term exclusive to EA. Serie A is mostly EA & a few Konami. MLS, EFL & many more have exclusive deals with EA. Eredivisie & Ligue 1 will sell their license to anyone, for now. What’s realistic for anyone else to get that would actually make a difference?

 

[FC Bayern]

If someone gets FIFA license, is a matter of time they get leagues licenses aswell. Is not exclusive of EA, Konami also had almost all the leagues, if not by name, at least by teams. They REALLY will have a problem if any other game comes and does a game with career mode. That's what I mean, if anybody comes and gets into that game mode, EA will have a bad time. Moreover, if anybody managed to fix defenders jogging bug (where defenders don't follow marks in a counter) in old FIFAS like 16 and 17, EA would have a bad time, cause gp is MILES better than what we have now. How FIFA has gotten hyperfast from them till now is just crazy.

My only point would be that PES 2019 had a lot of new smaller leagues because they stopped paying the UCL license, so had the money to spend on those licenses. If someone spends big to acquire the Fifa license, would they even have the money left to go for licensed leagues? It might be like UFL with the odd team here and there

 

[naczelnik5]

If someone gets FIFA license, is a matter of time they get leagues licenses aswell. Is not exclusive of EA, Konami also had almost all the leagues, if not by name, at least by teams. They REALLY will have a problem if any other game comes and does a game with career mode. That's what I mean, if anybody comes and gets into that game mode, EA will have a bad time. Moreover, if anybody managed to fix defenders jogging bug (where defenders don't follow marks in a counter) in old FIFAS like 16 and 17, EA would have a bad time, cause gp is MILES better than what we have now. How FIFA has gotten hyperfast from them till now is just crazy.

If someone created a football game that offered good gameplay and a career mode, licenses would not be so important, at least for a specific group of recipients. If the game's creators created an extensive and easy-to-use database editor and graphics editor, shortly after the release of such a game we would have mods with real names of clubs, players, leagues, etc. Possibly also a tool for converting graphic add-ons from FC and PES . Something like PES where we had a lot of unlicensed leagues and right after the premiere mods were created to fix it. The problem is that today such a game would reach only a small number of players. Today, most players want to have a complete product, most want to download the game and just play. There are few players like us for whom it is not a problem to spend extra time to install mods. Not to mention modders, because creating new content takes a lot of free time. Unless the game offered gameplay and a career mode as good as we have never seen in football games before. Then such a game could be successful even without a license. However, it would be too big a risk for the creators because every studio wants to make money on their games... That's why we probably won't see such a game. The only, although rather doubtful, hope for competition for EA and the creation of a modern and good football game is a new game from FIFA...

 

[peroberilo]

Its definitly good news that FC 25 is underperforming ...

Maybe, just maybe they will try something new and better of FC 26 ... just hope it is gameplay related, and not more stupidity for FUT idiots (but probably will be, some new crazy mode or something)

 

[Chris Davies]

Its definitly good news that FC 25 is underperforming ...

Maybe, just maybe they will try something new and better of FC 26 ... just hope it is gameplay related, and not more stupidity for FUT idiots (but probably will be, some new crazy mode or something)

You could infer from the last patch that their immediate response to this "underperformance" is to push the game even further towards basketball - to double-down on all the YouTubers' complaints ("slow", "horrible responsiveness", "boring", "assisted defending", "too much AI"). I doubt very much they're thinking "wow, we need to make a serious football game".

The fact that they've released a game-changing patch at this point could also be seen as an urgency to bring people in to monetise them before the next game is released. You have to wonder if this will be the permanent yearly pattern - September-December, sell copies to everyone, then January onwards, give the FUT players whatever mad shit they ask for.

In January, why make it better for football fans and make ~£50 per new person, rather than making it faster/dumber for the FUT fans and make ~£100 per new person? I have very little hope left.

 

[Hels The Ronin]

You could infer from the last patch that their immediate response to this "underperformance" is to push the game even further towards basketball - to double-down on all the YouTubers' complaints ("slow", "horrible responsiveness", "boring", "assisted defending", "too much AI"). I doubt very much they're thinking "wow, we need to make a serious football game".

The fact that they've released a game-changing patch at this point could also be seen as an urgency to bring people in to monetise them before the next game is released. You have to wonder if this will be the permanent yearly pattern - September-December, sell copies to everyone, then January onwards, give the FUT players whatever mad shit they ask for.

In January, why make it better for football fans and make ~£50 per new person, rather than making it faster/dumber for the FUT fans and make ~£100 per new person? I have very little hope left.

This pattern has been followed every year by EA, sadly. Start of the year is slow, then they make it faster towards the end of the year. Still, even the slowest tempo they reach is not really slow, specially if you compare it to games back in the days.

It's simple, FIFA/FC is a game that has always been quite arcade, but time has made it even more arcade. It's what casuals football fans want. Meanwhile, those that want a realistic football game are also still splitted. For example, I am one of the few persons I know that actually wants a game that plays up to 90 minutes and can be played like that, while most people will want something more or less realistic, but that can be played to 30 min matches and still have a lot of goals and opportunities, which would be semi-realistic, and would need for example, defenders to leave more gaps, slower reactions by the defenders itself or simply more common bad choices, or also, less penalizations if your body is not well positioned for a pass or a shooting. A combination of all those and even more.

If you ask me, I am totally in favor of making players less skilled even when they have 90+ in certain statistic, and introduce micro-errors in passing, shooting etc., that are there and can be decisive, also make things more physics based, so that players have to do certain moves in order to not fall, for example, work on foot-planting, etc. Make the game the most realistic possible, and then, if you want to play it to less than 90 minutes, tone back certain fails, but still make a gameplay thought for 90 min based match mirroring the reality the most possible. You can always make a game artificially more arcady if you're the most realistic thing, but you can't do the opposite. You can go from complex to simple by toning down, but you can't make things more realistic if your software is not prepared for this. And you can see this, for example, in AC (racing sim), where being designed to play it with wheel and pedals, you can make it run quite good with a pad by simply putting a script that kinda "translates the movement" and activates certain helps to be used with pads.

 

[rockstrongo]

Also peoples preference on whats good/playable seems to go down the toilet and keeps buying it (football game) , are people getting more and more used to just an okayish game?
Ive hardly read one single review here stating "this is really good!" but more its ok, it has promise etc etc
Imagine if EA FC 25 was released right after FIFA 14/15/16/17...
People need to realise this game will be exactly the way it is now, stop buying crap, you will most likely not change much, but youll feel better about yourself and not feeling fcuked over by this business model/game
I stopped supporting EA after FIFA 20 and NHL 21

 

[koningfrikandel]

Played it some more now....got two careers going. One with Hull, one with Ajax. It's not...terrible, it just plays really awkwardly and non-human almost. Acceleration of players is....erratic at best. Keepers are just a bit too good, shooting feels okay. Passing is like knocking a marble around.

It feels odd, inconsistent with some good moments sprinkled in. Goal-feel is quite nice imo.

This is on SIM sliders btw.

 

[*aLe]

Dear ADW FC...
Please refrain from comparing FC 25 to FIFA 14.
Don't. Even. Try.
I mean, HOW DARE YOU EVEN MENTION FIFA 14?

 

[peroberilo]

But i believe many of those FUT idiots on youtube are being paid in some way by EA ...

Its questionable how much their opinion is really important.

 

[therivermans]

I'm really enjoying fc24 with the fifter mod and the ANTH game play mod, but I'm not sure if I should buy fc25.If I do buy it, I don't want to spend money on mods yet, but will I still enjoy it?Is it worth buying just the free mods?

 

[Chris Davies]

I'm really enjoying fc24 with the fifter mod and the ANTH game play mod, but I'm not sure if I should buy fc25.If I do buy it, I don't want to spend money on mods yet, but will I still enjoy it?Is it worth buying just the free mods?

Nobody can answer this for you, because everyone's preferences are different.

I personally can't play the game without mods - and the free mods do a great job - but even then, I don't enjoy it because I just don't like FC and how unrewarding it feels. But if you like 24, you might like 25. But only you will know...

 

[millossobek]

If someone created a football game that offered good gameplay and a career mode, licenses would not be so important, at least for a specific group of recipients. If the game's creators created an extensive and easy-to-use database editor and graphics editor, shortly after the release of such a game we would have mods with real names of clubs, players, leagues, etc. Possibly also a tool for converting graphic add-ons from FC and PES . Something like PES where we had a lot of unlicensed leagues and right after the premiere mods were created to fix it.

I agree with this. For those of us who don't mind installing mods (which can be at times, time-consuming, but in the end rewarding), the most important thing is to have a solid and customizable editing. I am currently enjoying FIFA 23 with the LTA mod (South American leagues, as recommended by @Byronic) and @Anth James gameplay mod. My point being, if the games moving forward are easily moddable and both gameplay and league structure can be modified/licensed, I do see a way forward amongst the FUT/Online madness, a place for us who prefer Career Mode/ML offline mode.

 

[fifaccitiu.com]

This pattern has been followed every year by EA, sadly. Start of the year is slow, then they make it faster towards the end of the year. Still, even the slowest tempo they reach is not really slow, specially if you compare it to games back in the days.

It's simple, FIFA/FC is a game that has always been quite arcade, but time has made it even more arcade. It's what casuals football fans want. Meanwhile, those that want a realistic football game are also still splitted. For example, I am one of the few persons I know that actually wants a game that plays up to 90 minutes and can be played like that, while most people will want something more or less realistic, but that can be played to 30 min matches and still have a lot of goals and opportunities, which would be semi-realistic, and would need for example, defenders to leave more gaps, slower reactions by the defenders itself or simply more common bad choices, or also, less penalizations if your body is not well positioned for a pass or a shooting. A combination of all those and even more.

If you ask me, I am totally in favor of making players less skilled even when they have 90+ in certain statistic, and introduce micro-errors in passing, shooting etc., that are there and can be decisive, also make things more physics based, so that players have to do certain moves in order to not fall, for example, work on foot-planting, etc. Make the game the most realistic possible, and then, if you want to play it to less than 90 minutes, tone back certain fails, but still make a gameplay thought for 90 min based match mirroring the reality the most possible. You can always make a game artificially more arcady if you're the most realistic thing, but you can't do the opposite. You can go from complex to simple by toning down, but you can't make things more realistic if your software is not prepared for this. And you can see this, for example, in AC (racing sim), where being designed to play it with wheel and pedals, you can make it run quite good with a pad by simply putting a script that kinda "translates the movement" and activates certain helps to be used with pads.

It will be always arcade. Users don't seek hardcore tactical battles, tacticl realism or real football. They just want to do three passes and score.
Football, in this era, apart from big teams, is a boring game. Super athletes with low technical skills. They are toned to play three times a week, with 11/13km each game.
FC also have a system that give satisfaction to casual gamers and this is related to attributes in DB.
Look at every player: all of them are good all around.
A defender is good on tackling, marking, passes, ball control.. a midifelder can do everything. On 30 attributes, almost 10/15 are close to the overall value... You can have centre backs with 80 of ball control in top league and experienced no10 in third division with 70 in this skill. A central midfield with 85 in tackling and a third league centre back with 65 in the same skill.
There is no characterization, on lower league matches you don't feel the huge difference in rating with top teams... If you remove the overall calculated on attributes and use football manager attribute system you'll see another game.
Still away from reality with the 1vs1 system, but you need to carefully choose your 11 based on the match and your opponent.
If you need to care about the stamina of your players you will not run for 90 mins, that's valid expecially with your 2nd league players. Maybe Liverpool can, but your team not.
You'll need to think. If you have only 1 player that can pass well, you need to carefully use him to build your game, if you have one that has good stamina, you'll use him to press and steal the ball.. etc etc.
Then you'll have some sorta of realism.

 

[Chris Davies]

These are the people the game is for.

When they win, "fucking amazing patch".

When they lose...




Please, EA... They literally don't know what they want - other than to win every game.

It's not about the "skill gap", it's not about "AI defending", it's about them losing and not being able to accept it - so it's your fault.

Stop listening to them for the love of God. Listen to football fans instead.

 

[FC Bayern]

These are the people the game is for.

When they win, "fucking amazing patch".

When they lose...




Please, EA... They literally don't know what they want - other than to win every game.

It's not about the "skill gap", it's not about "AI defending", it's about them losing and not being able to accept it - so it's your fault.

Stop listening to them for the love of God. Listen to football fans instead.

Maybe I can't see it clearly enough... But did that score just say 8-8?

 

[therivermans]

Nobody can answer this for you, because everyone's preferences are different.

I personally can't play the game without mods - and the free mods do a great job - but even then, I don't enjoy it because I just don't like FC and how unrewarding it feels. But if you like 24, you might like 25. But only you will know...

You are right. I ended up buying it. Now I am enjoying it with Anth's gameplay mod. I especially like the mob face, which is a nice touch.

 

[Hels The Ronin]

These are the people the game is for.

When they win, "fucking amazing patch".

When they lose...




Please, EA... They literally don't know what they want - other than to win every game.

It's not about the "skill gap", it's not about "AI defending", it's about them losing and not being able to accept it - so it's your fault.

Stop listening to them for the love of God. Listen to football fans instead.

Know the funiest thing? If the game had more emphasis on defence, and defenders actually defended as they are supposed to, instead of that "manual defending" everyone is asking for, the game would be way more interesting. I don't say that defenders hard press the rival automatically, but I am absolutely in favor they do a minimum press to not let him advance higher in the pitch. And fucking following marks. A lot of times, you won't actually defend the man on the ball cause you will be selecting your fuckin 90 something average CB and putting him in the right place to be, because the tactical intelligence of the AI is just non-existant.

That's what kills the game. I don't want to win every game. But I don't want either to have to follow the same patterns once and again to score. I want to be forced to do build up, to have to stop with the ball and maybe play back to my CB, wait my midfielders to move. And I actually want them to move. Even jogging, or running mid pace, not sprinting all the time, but defenitely create new pass lanes. I want press to be expensive, and also not invincible. I don't want AI hard pressing all the time I have the ball in my pitch, but neither all the time retreated to the back. I want hard choice tactics where I can select how hard I want my players to press, but also how hard I want them to come back when the enemy team manges to move the ball in my third.

I defenitely want to have to find new passing lanes to my midfielders, to have tiki-taka being useful, and not normal passing lanes. Doing crosses, moving around, actually doing some football, instead of just doing random shit, or staying static. Moving with purpose. But that's not what the average FIFA fan wants, probably not even what the average football fan wants, know why? Cause then it wouldn't be the most "skilled" winning, but the most intelligent. Yeah, knowing some tricks would help, defenitely, but it would be much more of a tactic battle, and loosing wouldn't mean being unskilled, or not having enough technique, cause that can be trained easily, by simply repeating... It would mean something really worse, that is that someone was more intelligent than you. And everyone is afraid of that. Having the feeling that they are not intelligent enough... That's really something that no one wants to feel.