Chelsea FC thread (Champions!)

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I agree with gerd. If a player is to be found diving after a game, he should receive a 1 - 2 match ban. This surely would lower the rate of diving in matches?
 
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Community service in old pensioner homes, perhaps. Gudjohnsen had an opportunity to go down in the box, but instead stayed on his feet. Good on him.
 
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Flawl3ssCowb0y said:
I agree with gerd. If a player is to be found diving after a game, he should receive a 1 - 2 match ban. This surely would lower the rate of diving in matches?
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If only we could submit that to UEFA/FIFA.
 
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yah agreed! Most of the times it's the players fault and not the referee.
But when it comes for a referee to book a player for diving it should remain as a yellow card. Cause sometimes he might be really fouled and the ref thinking he dived could give him a red! Like EURO2004, happened in quite some games that every time a player fell on the box he would get a yellow card and most of the times they weren't diving.

Post match ban is the way!
 
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FD (and Classic): no i agree partially with his last posting: yesterday Chelsea were cheated just like Carvalho cheated against Barcelona (although i still think they deserved to go through). Some postings before that there was a discussion about Chelsea's defensive and offensive record in this thread and someone said that Chelsea scored quite a lot. Classic replied that it was against teams who have weak defenses like Barcelona and Bayern Munchen... My last post was a reply to that one...
I have the impression that Classic is still embittered by Celtic's loss in that final and i have an on-and-off-going discussion with him and others that british teams (possibly with the exception of Chelsea under Mourinho)can't adapt their playing style against diving teams. I would like to continue that discussion but this isn't the right place to do it.
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Wasn't me mentioning Chelsea have only scored because opposition have been weak defensively. Someone else mentioned that they put 4 past their last two opponents (Barcelona and Bayern Munchen), and then someone else said Barcelona weren't great defensively - Tim7 then expressed some surprise at that comment, all I did was say I don't think Barcelona are that great at the back, which Milanista (I think) agreed with. I wasn't being anti-Chelsea, it was just a general response to Tim7's post. :eh:

Of course I find it hard to forget/forgive Porto and their then manager, but none of that was anything to do with me saying Chelsea fans are quick to forget Carvalho's unpunished foul vs Barcelona, that was just a blatant fact (you yourself agreed with that)!

Disappointed that you think all my opinions are based on that game. :roll:
 
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Sulph said:
If only we could submit that to UEFA/FIFA.
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Yeh but look at it now at a neutral point of view.... Now it makes the 2 games more exciting as Bayern have a chance. If Chelsea had won 4-1 or even 4-0, most or even all will dismiss Bayern and excitement wont be as high.

;)
 
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Milanista said:
Yeh but look at it now at a neutral point of view.... Now it makes the 2 games more exciting as Bayern have a chance. If Chelsea had won 4-1 or even 4-0, most or even all will dismiss Bayern and excitement wont be as high.

;)
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Last year Milan did won Depor 4-1 away and then went to lose at home 4-0! :O
 
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Milanista said:
Yeh but look at it now at a neutral point of view.... Now it makes the 2 games more exciting as Bayern have a chance. If Chelsea had won 4-1 or even 4-0, most or even all will dismiss Bayern and excitement wont be as high.

;)
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Makes it more exciting!?!? You cannot actually be condoning cheating by players surely mate???
 
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I dont support it, but im just saying that it does add a completely different emotional aspect to football.
 
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Did any other TV stations show the "note passing" incident just before the Tiago substitution? I was watching it via satellite on a German channel Sat1, camera showed someone leaning over the top of the dugout from behind tapping someone on the shoulder to give them a note (not doing a particularly good job of being discreet either) then the person in the dugout who receives the note gives it to the guy in charge of the game in Jose's absence (the Portuguese dude who's his no2 I guess?) then 2 mins later the Tiago substitution happens, interesting stuff :)

Edit: Found a link about it http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/premiership/story.jsp?story=627259

There was no Jose Mourinho in the dug-out at Stamford Bridge last night but by the end it hardly seemed to matter because the Chelsea's coach influence could be detected all over this remarkable match. The principles he holds so dear were there in another swashbuckling Champions' League performance, in the goals his valiant side scored and in the decisions made in his absence by the Chelsea bench.

Especially, it seemed, those decisions. On one of those nights when Stamford Bridge staked another claim to host to one of European football's most uninhibited attacking teams it might seem ungrateful to tear the gaze away from the pitch but it was the activity on the touchline that also caught the eye. Mourinho's whereabouts remained a mystery during the match, but the note-passing on the bench hinted at an involvement that was much harder to measure.

The conspiracy theorists will point to the notes that were passed by the fitness coach Rui Faria, who wore a hat pulled low over his ears, to Mourinho's assistants Baltemar Brito and Steve Clarke which seemed to coincide with major decisions. And the intervention of the Uefa official Pieter Vink suggested that he too was suspicious, but from Brito came a flat denial of any wrongdoing. "There was no contact with Mourinho," he said. "The last time I saw him was two hours before kick-off and I have not seen him since."

If Uefa still have the stomach for another dispute with Mourinho after serving him with the two-match ban that will also prevent him from manning the touchline in Munich on Wednesday then that will be some charge to prove. The club's spokesman denied that Faria had an earpiece and even the frequent trips down the tunnel by the goalkeeper coach Silvinho Louro were dismissed as innocent errands.
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While I think everyone on this board will agree diving is probably the ugliest part of football at the moment, no can be wearing such 'blue-tinted' glasses to think that Ballack did anything that Joe Cole or Drogba or almost every other striker wouldn't have done under the contact. And don't say there wasn't any, there was, not enough to pull down a grown man, but still, Carvalho should stop holdin onto people in boxes...he got away with one the game before, was probably harshly punished this time. I can't believe some of you are calling for a ban, if there was a ban everytime that someone make a big deal about minimal contact, then almost every player other than goalies (and sometimes even them) would have to receive bans, and the reviewing process would take longer than the time between legs. No team is above any other either, all feature their 'actors' (Ronaldo at United, Cole and Drogba at Chelsea, Arsenal ;) ) so I guess it all balances out in the end.
 
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Diving should get post match bans. Period.
It just ruins the game!

thx for clearing that up Milanista. I'm pretty sure it was just an exception! :mrgreen:

:) :)
 
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Sorry Classic...i hope you don't feel injured because i like discussing with you even if we sometimes disagree...
Today i read in a Belgian paper that in Frank Rijkaard indeed would have talked with Frisk during half time in Barcelona. It (supposedly) was in the Frisk post match report.
Still i think managers, players, the press, pundits and others should stop criticising referees.
 
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And?

Carvalho was doing it repeatedly in the box, so probably a good thing that it happened, I hate seeing centre-half's man-handle players at corners, free-kicks without conceding a penalty.


FD
 
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Sulph said:
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This is now going OTT, IMO. Get over it boys, the ref made a mistake it happens all the time. Carvalho tugged at Ballack, ok so it was not forceful but it was still a tug which is a foul. IMO Carvalho was stupid and deserved to give away a pen, what was he thinking doing that in the penalty area at that time?
 
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Placebo said:
Did any other TV stations show the "note passing" incident just before the Tiago substitution? I was watching it via satellite on a German channel Sat1, camera showed someone leaning over the top of the dugout from behind tapping someone on the shoulder to give them a note (not doing a particularly good job of being discreet either)
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lol, he almost had to beat the guy to make him take the note. ;)

Mourinho only received a warning from the UEFA from that, I wonder what good a match ban is when you can basically ignore it without further consequences.
 
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UEFA are cowards...i'm not sure if a two match ban was a good sanction...but they made that decision and should be consequent so the warning is ridiculous.
But if you see that both Beckebauer and Platini were named as successors for the Swede (forgot his name) who is chairman of UEFA that says enough.
Although they both were magnificent players, the yhave no heart for football...
I will mention one thing: Platini had not enough empathy and common sense to see that it was inappropriate to cheer after his penalty goal at the Heysel...that says it all. He still claims the players didn't know what happened wheras Boniek for example made it clear that they damn well knew what happened.
 
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There's no proof that he was talking to Mourinho, if at all anyone.

Will never be proved.
 
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Ike said:
lol, he almost had to beat the guy to make him take the note. ;)
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LMAO yeah I know that was almost the funniest part, you could almost hear him shouting "take the bloody note already!

Wonder if there's a clip available to view :)
 
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fd1972uk said:
And?

Carvalho was doing it repeatedly in the box, so probably a good thing that it happened, I hate seeing centre-half's man-handle players at corners, free-kicks without conceding a penalty.


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Every single player in the world does that. They all tend to grab the opponnet, and sometimes it's even the other way around.

One might think they are all in love! :mrgreen:

:)
 
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3 Defenders could be suspended! Glen Johnson, William Gallas, Ricardo Carvalho! Alexei Smertin could also be suspended for the next leg.
Kezman, who is 26 today, is available after his suspension 6 days ago, however he has a fever and is not going to play
 
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Sulph said:
Alexei Smertin could also be suspended for the next leg. Along with Alexei Smertin.
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So if Smertin get's booked, does he automatically get sent-off since there's two of em?


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fd1972uk said:
So if Smertin get's booked, does he automatically get sent-off since there's two of em?


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Thats the lamest ive seen someone be in weeks. Congratulations FD.
 
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Cheers, sorry couldn't resist. Although I guess I'm neck and neck with the guy that started that diving thread.


FD
 
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Sulph said:
3 Defenders could be suspended! Glen Johnson, William Gallas, Ricardo Carvalho! Alexei Smertin could also be suspended for the next leg.
Kezman, who is 26 today, is available after his suspension 6 days ago, however he has a fever and is not going to play
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Hahhaha sky sports says KEzman has tonsolitus.
 
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8 minutes to go and Chelsea leading 6-3 on aggregate. Job done.
 
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